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GaryMrMets
07-17-2002, 11:22 PM
I read about this deal in yesterday's New York Post. Would you make the trade? I think I would in a heart-beat.

A-Rod, Hank Blalock, Gabe Kapler
for
Roberto Alomar, Jose Reyes, Aaron Heilman, Roger Cedeno,
Jeromy Burnitz, Rey Ordonez

http://www.nypost.com/sports/mets/19093.htm

July 16, 2002 -- THE Mets passed on Alex Rodriguez once and it is possible to trace 11/2 years of misery since to that decision. So it behooves this reeling organization to do everything it can to land the best player on the planet.

With one of the majors' top-five payrolls and a last-place team for the second straight year, Rangers owner Tom Hicks has said he wants to downsize his payroll. However, when reached by phone yesterday, the man heavily criticized for signing A-Rod to a $252 million pact, said: "The reason we entered into a 10-year contract with Alex was we wanted him to be our leader for that period. We have no intention of moving him. We can keep him and have our finances work."

When asked if A-Rod would be a Ranger in 2003 and beyond, Hicks responded "Absolutely." But the signing of A-Rod, who really wanted to be a Met, was impetuous, and the Mets need to convince Hicks to act rashly again and trade them A-Rod, Hank Blalock and Gabe Kapler for Roberto Alomar, Jose Reyes, Aaron Heilman, Roger Cedeno, Jeromy Burnitz and Rey Ordonez. Here is how they do that.

WHY IT WORKS FOR THE RANGERS - A-Rod is due $125 million from 2003-2007, when he can opt out or $213 million through 2010. So there is no better way for Hicks to downsize then to move this pact.

Oakland and Seattle, and perhaps even Anaheim, will be better than Texas through the 2003 season, so the Rangers need to build toward 2004. Most of the Rangers' odious contracts (think Carl Everett) expire either this year or next, giving them terrific payroll flexibility in 2004. Moving A-Rod gives them more in a dramatic way.

Alomar is a player Texas GM John Hart has already acquired once (for Cleveland) and whom he loves. Alomar, Rafael Palmeiro and Juan Gonzalez would give the Rangers a strong offensive core for 2003 even without A-Rod, especially because Gonzalez is pals with Alomar, who has a way of motivating his chum to play well.

Texas gets Ordonez to hold shortstop for 2003 before Reyes takes over. Reyes and Brandon Phillips are considered the game's best shortstop prospects. The Mets would prefer to move Pat Strange, but to do this deal they would have to give up Heilman, their top pitching prospect. The Rangers are loaded with hitting prospects, but need young pitchers. Blalock and Mark Teixeira are perhaps the minors' best two hitting prospects, but they both play third base, so Blalock goes to convince the Mets to include Heilman.

Ordonez, Burnitz and Alomar make a combined $25.75 million or roughly A-Rod's contract for next season, but all three have their contracts expire after 2003 while the Mets have A-Rod through at least 2007. Because of that they get a little more financial relief, so Texas takes Cedeno (three years at $14 million left) and the Mets get Kapler ($3.25 million for 2003).

WHY IT WORKS FOR THE METS - The Mets did not want to do A-Rod's contract two offseasons ago, and with the possibility of greater revenue sharing and a luxury tax coming, they are leery of getting involved in what they consider a terrible contract. But since shunning A-Rod, the Mets have tumbled from NL champs to jokes. They are even more second-class citizens in New York to the Yankees and in the NL East to the Braves.

A-Rod turns just 27 this month. He currently leads the AL in homers, RBIs, runs and slugging percentage and might one day produce 800 homers and 4,000 hits. The Mets can get out of their TV contract after the 2005 season, and their financial attractiveness only heightens with a player who would rival Derek Jeter in New York popularity.

Blalock, who projects as a lefty-swinger with power and high on-base percentage, plays beside A-Rod and the Mets can think about re-signing Edgardo Alfonzo for second base, where his numbers fit better.

It is a financial risk for the Mets. But they can expect a lucrative TV deal, a new stadium and a better economy sometime in the near future. Most important, the Mets need to take a risk to get back into the game. And who better to take a risk on than the best player on the planet?

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ALEX RODRIGUEZ
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ROBERTO ALOMAR

Hurricane Floyd
07-18-2002, 12:47 AM
Personally I woudlnt. We are giving up to much from our farm w/ Ryes and Heimen and havent we learned that spending tons of money doenst mean anything? what would we do next year then since we added payroll and have no pitchers? I like Arod but i woudlnt do it.

Baseball Guru
07-18-2002, 06:45 AM
Hmmmm, I'm not sure I would do it but at the very least this trade scenario intrigues me:biggrin:

Get rid of some high salaries in Rey, Alomar and Burnitz but also get rid of a jewel of a prospect in Reyes...
On the other hand we add the best SS to ever play and a good prospect in Blalock...You also get another pretty decent young (and cheap) OF'er in Kapler....

Put Arod at SS, Blalock at 3B, move Fonzie back to 2B and put Kapler in the OF...

Very intriguing indeed:notme:

Cyberlibrarian
07-18-2002, 06:57 AM
Absolutely not. People complain now that we've mortgaged our future, well this would make our farm system even skimpier.

In addition, we'd have $50 million invested in only 3 players: A-rod, Mo and Mike. That's ludicrous. Our owners don't have bottomless pockets -- this is why we didn't sign A-rod to begin with.

IMO it's a ridiculous idea, and I hope SP is smart enough not to do it.

Liter22
07-19-2002, 11:54 PM
The only sane way to exepct that offer is if the Rangers take on a bit more than half of A-ROds cash and half of Alomars contract:hmm: not only is each team getting a seasoned vet but getting a solid bat and fielder. There is now way in hell that you can trade Reyes since he's the Mets top prospect and then if you do trade him then you might be forced to sign Rey for another couple of years and I don't want to see that happen. I wouldn't trade Burnitz or Roger just takes speed away from the team and some power hey their just haveing a bad season!GREAT POINT by Julie :In addition, we'd have $50 million invested in only 3 players: A-rod, Mo and Mike. That's ludicrous. Our owners don't have bottomless pockets -- this is why we didn't sign A-rod to begin with. Thats a great point and this is one morte reason to have Texas take on more than half of the salary. All together like the old baseball saying Keep it simple stupid I would just have it be Alomar for A-Rod with the exeption that Texas thakes on about 3/4 of the salary and Paton for Kapler :hmm: now see that I changed the whoe damn trde around.;) :biggrinpa

Baseball Guru
07-20-2002, 06:23 AM
Ummm, Vin, just to point out, if we did lose Reyes in the deal we would also lose Rey as the current rumor is set up but that wouldnt matter as we would get Arod in the deal...:confused:

LOL:biggrin:


IMO, this trade proposal is not ludicrous although I still haven't decided if I would do it:notme:

Fullabull
07-20-2002, 12:57 PM
Texas needs pitching and the deal offers one prospect (Hielman). I would think Texas could demand alot more.

Baseball Guru
07-20-2002, 09:00 PM
I dont know how much more they can demand as it will be a chore to unload Arods salary....

Misha77Piazza
07-20-2002, 09:11 PM
HELL NO!


I don't want ARod ever. Kapler is so so. Blalock isn't so bad but not good enough. But still, I don't want ARod at all.

I'd prefer keep Ordonez until he slows down before Reyes comes up to take his place eventually if Reyes stays hot.