ALDS rotation

[milky_way]

Assuming the Halos don't totally collapse and the A's hang on...what's the rotation for the ALDS?

Over the last three years, our pitchers stats against Anaheim:

Clemens: none
Pettitte: 2-0; 3.00 ERA; 15.0 IP; 14 hits; 5 ER; 1 HR; 2 BB; 11 K; OPP BA .237
El Duque: 1-1; 5.59 ERA; 19.1 IP; 21 hits; 12 ER; 2 HR; 7 BB; 15 K; OPP BA .280
Wells: 1-0; 6.52 ERA; 9.2 IP; 14 hits; 7 ER; 2 HR; 2 BB; 3 K; OPP BA .350
Mussina: none
Weaver: 2-2; 1.95 ERA; 37.0 IP; 27 hits; 8 ER; 1 HR; 7 BB; 34 K; OPP BA .197

My guess would be:
Gm 1: Pettitte
Gm 2: Clemens
Gm 3: Wells
Gm 4: Mussina
Gm 5: Pettitte
with Weaver as the emergency starter (being he OWNS the Angels)

thoughts?

[Yankee 21]

Clemens is starting in the first game. They said so lastnight during the game.

[milky_way]

seriously? :eek:

that doesn't make much sense to me. Clemens has been pitching the worst out of all our pitchers recently (except, maybe El Duque, who has two straight not too good games). Pettitte has been the post-all star game Ace, Moose has been the best September pitcher, and Wells has been the best pitcher all year. i guess Torre's relying on Clemen's experience (but on the other hand, they all have experience except for Weaver...). So Clemens will be pitching Game 5 too? :eek: (or are we going with a 5-man rotation?)

[Baseball Guru]

No way they go to a 5 man rotation in the playoffs....

Clemens would get the game 5 start (if needed) barring injury or a total collapse in game 1...

Last year the Yanks started with Clemens, Pettite, Moose and then El Duque....

Interesting to see how Torres juggles this years rotation after Clemens....

[Yankee 21]

Your right James. No 5 man rotation, El Duque to the bullpen and Clemens starts game 1. at least that's what what they were saying lastnight and for the last couple of games.
My guess:
Clemens
Pettitte
Boomer
Moose.


I'm sure the rotation will be out soon!

[JrollPrincess]

Woo hoo Andy # 1 :lust:

[milky_way]

Starting Clemens in Game 1 and 5 is risky. out of all our starters, he's been the most inconsistent. I'd give it to Pettitte (he really deserves it) but they don't care what i think :(

[milky_way]

Roger Clemens, RHP, 13-6, 4.35

By Stadium ERA W L SV SVO G GS CG IP H R ER HR BB SO AVG
Yankee Stadium 2.84 9 1 0 0 15 15 0 101.1 74 36 32 6 27 122 .201
Edison Field N/A
vs. ANA N/A

RHP, Roger Clemens vs ANA

Opposing hitter AB H 2B 3B HR RBI BB SO AVG OBP SLG OPS
Tim Salmon 51 12 3 0 2 4 4 16 .235 .304 .412 .715
Garret Anderson 39 8 1 0 0 1 0 13 .205 .205 .231 .436
Brad Fullmer 27 8 3 0 1 6 2 6 .296 .345 .519 .863
Scott Spiezio 26 3 3 0 0 2 4 4 .115 .233 .231 .464
Troy Glaus 19 4 1 0 1 4 3 8 .211 .318 .421 .739
Darin Erstad 18 7 0 0 0 3 3 1 .389 .476 .389 .865
Orlando Palmeiro 17 3 1 0 0 1 1 3 .176 .222 .235 .458
Adam Kennedy 15 5 1 0 0 1 0 1 .333 .333 .400 .733
Benji Gil 15 1 0 0 0 0 1 5 .067 .176 .067 .243
Bengie Molina 10 2 0 0 0 0 0 0 .200 .200 .200 .400
Alex Ochoa 4 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 .250 .250 .250 .500
David Eckstein 3 1 0 0 0 0 1 0 .333 .500 .333 .833
Sal Fasano 3 0 0 0 0 0 0 3 .000 .000 .000 .000


David Wells, LHP, 18-7, 3.86

By Stadium ERA W L SV SVO G GS CG IP H R ER HR BB SO AVG
Yankee Stadium 3.83 8 4 0 0 13 13 2 94.0 90 41 40 11 16 62 .248
Edison Field 22.50 0 0 0 0 1 1 0 2.0 6 5 5 1 2 0 .600
vs. ANA 6.52 1 0 0 0 2 2 0 9.2 14 7 7 2 2 3 .350

LHP, David Wells vs ANA

Opposing hitter AB H 2B 3B HR RBI BB SO AVG OBP SLG OPS
Garret Anderson 55 21 2 1 2 8 1 7 .382 .393 .564 .956
Tim Salmon 45 12 2 0 3 10 13 9 .267 .426 .511 .937
Darin Erstad 40 12 4 0 2 6 2 4 .300 .333 .550 .883
Troy Glaus 24 8 4 0 1 6 1 4 .333 .360 .625 .985
Scott Spiezio 17 2 1 0 0 0 0 6 .118 .118 .176 .294
Benji Gil 17 1 0 0 0 0 1 3 .059 .158 .059 .217
Bengie Molina 14 2 0 0 0 0 1 1 .143 .200 .143 .343
Sal Fasano 14 1 0 0 0 0 0 7 .071 .071 .071 .143
Alex Ochoa 13 2 1 0 1 1 0 2 .154 .154 .462 .615
David Eckstein 9 2 0 0 0 0 1 0 .222 .300 .222 .522
Shawn Wooten 7 1 0 0 0 2 0 1 .143 .125 .143 .268
Adam Kennedy 6 0 0 0 0 0 0 2 .000 .000 .000 .000
Orlando Palmeiro 5 2 0 0 0 0 0 0 .400 .400 .400 .800
Brad Fullmer 3 1 0 0 0 1 0 0 .333 .500 .333 .833

Andy Pettitte, LHP, 12-5, 3.40

By Stadium ERA W L SV SVO G GS CG IP H R ER HR BB SO AVG
Yankee Stadium 3.48 8 2 0 0 10 10 3 67.1 71 27 26 3 6 47 .269
Edison Field 0.00 1 0 0 0 1 1 0 8.1 4 0 0 0 2 6 .138
vs. ANA 3.00 2 0 0 0 2 2 0 15.0 14 5 5 1 2 11 .237

LHP Andy Pettitte vs ANA

Opposing hitter AB H 2B 3B HR RBI BB SO AVG OBP SLG OPS
Garret Anderson 59 21 2 0 2 9 0 9 .356 .356 .492 .847
Tim Salmon 44 10 4 0 0 2 9 9 .227 .370 .318 .689
Darin Erstad 43 9 1 0 0 4 0 13 .209 .209 .233 .442
Troy Glaus 26 7 2 0 2 2 5 6 .269 .387 .577 .964
Benji Gil 24 6 3 0 0 2 5 9 .250 .379 .375 .754
Scott Spiezio 20 8 2 0 0 1 2 1 .400 .455 .500 .955
Bengie Molina 15 3 0 0 0 0 0 2 .200 .200 .200 .400
David Eckstein 15 1 1 0 0 2 0 0 .067 .125 .133 .258
Alex Ochoa 14 4 0 0 0 1 3 1 .286 .412 .286 .697
Shawn Wooten 13 3 0 0 0 0 0 5 .231 .231 .231 .462
Orlando Palmeiro 9 4 2 0 0 2 1 1 .444 .500 .667 1.167
Sal Fasano 7 2 1 0 1 1 0 1 .286 .286 .857 1.143
Brad Fullmer 3 1 1 0 0 0 0 0 .333 .333 .667 1.000


Mike Mussina, RHP, 17-10, 4.14

By Stadium ERA W L SV SVO G GS CG IP H R ER HR BB SO AVG
Yankee Stadium 4.25 7 8 0 0 17 17 1 112.1 116 57 53 14 27 91 .268
Edison Field N/A
vs. ANA N/A

RHP Mike Mussina vs ANA

Opposing hitter AB H 2B 3B HR RBI BB SO AVG OBP SLG OPS
Tim Salmon 66 16 4 0 5 10 4 18 .242 .296 .530 .826
Garret Anderson 34 7 0 1 0 2 2 6 .206 .250 .265 .515
Brad Fullmer 25 5 1 0 1 1 0 7 .200 .231 .360 .591
Darin Erstad 24 7 2 0 0 3 3 5 .292 .370 .375 .745
Scott Spiezio 21 5 3 0 1 6 2 4 .238 .304 .524 .828
Troy Glaus 12 3 0 0 0 1 2 3 .250 .357 .250 .607
Benji Gil 12 2 0 0 0 0 0 6 .167 .167 .167 .333
Adam Kennedy 9 3 1 1 0 1 0 2 .333 .333 .667 1.000
Bengie Molina 8 3 2 0 0 1 0 1 .375 .375 .625 1.000
Orlando Palmeiro 6 2 1 0 0 1 1 0 .333 .429 .500 .929
Alex Ochoa 3 1 1 0 0 0 0 1 .333 .333 .667 1.000
Sal Fasano 2 1 1 0 0 0 0 1 .500 .500 1.000 1.500
Kevin Appier 2 0 0 0 0 0 0 1 .000 .000 .000 .000

[milky_way]

ALDS rotation set (http://www.sportsline.com/mlb/story/5760051)

GAME 1: Clemens
GAME 2: Pettitte
GAME 3: Moose
GAME 4: Boomer
GAME 5: Clemens

interesting Boomer is 4th...even though he was our best pitcher all season...and has the best post-season resumes of all the starters other than El Duque...:eek:

[Yankee 21]

Clemens is a six time Cy Young winner and has the best record against the Angels of any of the starting pitchers. If you go back to the last time the Angels were in the playoffs, you'll see that Clemens destroyed them. IMO Even if he didn't have the record he has against them, He's still the Ace and deserves to pitch the first game. Boomer is probably pitching 4th because he doesn't have the playoff experience that the other three has, plus if you have to force a game 5, It's a pretty good thing to have Boomer sitting in that 4th place in the rotation.

[milky_way]

Originally posted by Yankee 21
Clemens is a six time Cy Young winner and has the best record against the Angels of any of the starting pitchers. If you go back to the last time the Angels were in the playoffs, you'll see that Clemens destroyed them. IMO Even if he didn't have the record he has against them, He's still the Ace and deserves to pitch the first game. Boomer is probably pitching 4th because he doesn't have the playoff experience that the other three has, plus if you have to force a game 5, It's a pretty good thing to have Boomer sitting in that 4th place in the rotation.
Yeah, i guess so. although i kinda thought that Torre would reward Boomer for having the season he's had by starting him in the three slot, but Moose's deserving too with the September he's having (and by what he did last year in Game 3).

gotta hope Clemens shows up for Game 1 though...recently he's been hit hard early in the game :eek:

his ALDS record as a yankee does scare me a little too...
1999: 1-0 with an ERA of 0.00
2000: 0-2 with an ERA of 8.18
2001: 0-1 with an ERA of 5.40

but i guess you can't really go wrong with the rotation. all of them are big-game pitchers :D (and that includes our longman, Mr. El Duque :2guns: )

[Baseball Guru]

LoL...The last time Clemens started vs the Angels in the playoffs he was like 23 years old and he really didnt pitch that great vs them as he wa 1-1 with a 4.37 era....That IMO should not be taken into account now, some 16 years later....Rocket has a good playoff history with a 3.33 era and he is considered the "ACE" I would think of the staff...A sure HOF'er....
My thinking with Boomer being #4 is not so much to reward or punish him but rather to give Torre the Righty/Lefty punch....The way the rotation is now set he has a righty, lefty, righty, lefty thru-out the series.....That was probably his thinking....
Boomer also has more playoff experience than one may think...In fact he has more playoff experience than Moose and El Duque....
He has been in 19 postseason games in his career.....Clemens has been in 21, Pettite in 24....

[Cyberlibrarian]

Clemens' post-season success is only relatively recent. He'd had some pretty awful outings in the playoffs. And, considering his age, and how his performance this season has not been consistent, starting him first could be dicey.

However, since he's done much better at home than away, giving him games 1 and 5, both in the Bronx, is probably part of Torre's thinking.


go angels!

[milky_way]

Originally posted by Baseball Guru
My thinking with Boomer being #4 is not so much to reward or punish him but rather to give Torre the Righty/Lefty punch....The way the rotation is now set he has a righty, lefty, righty, lefty thru-out the series.....That was probably his thinking....

good point :thumbsup:. i didn't think of that :)