College Football Playoff System

[spalek26]

College Football must come up with a playoff system. Oklahoma and Iowa deserve a chance at the National Title.

[BPBlueSox]

From Oklahoma City, I see? Not surprising....

Why do they deserve a shot? They both lost a game...

Iowa to Iowa State who turned out to suck...

and Oklahoma to Texas A&M who went and lost to Mizzou the next week...

Impressive. :hmm:

[GiveHyzduashot]

Yeah Dan, but ISU was playing some good football when they beat Iowa.

If there was a playoff system, I'd be willing to bet Penn State would cause some havoc the way they're playing ....

[BPBlueSox]

Sure they were at the time....but they just lost AT HOME to Connecticut yesterday....CONNECTICUT!!! They have been in Div 1-A for like 2 years now, if that...

[GiveHyzduashot]

I saw UConn was beating ISU, but I didn't see a final. That's amazing UConn beat ISU.

[spalek26]

So in your book one bad game and your out, Despite who they play. Ohio state gets to duck Iowa who both went 8-0 in the Big 10.

[Special_K19]

Don't fault OSU for not playing Iowa this season. Fault the Big Ten for not having a championship game. OSU played 8 of the Big Ten's 10 teams (not including themselves obviously) and can't play all the teams because they need to have out of conference games. Iowa just happened to be one of two teams, along with Michigan State, we didn't play this year. I'm sure a game would have been scheduled if ANYONE had foreseen how good these two teams were going to be, but that's what happens in large conferences.

[BPBlueSox]

Exactly. How is Ohio State supposed to get punished since they don't make the conference schedule?

[spalek26]

I'm not saying Ohio State should be punished, my point is there should be a playoff system. We the fans are being robbed of matchups like Ohio State and Iowa, Miami and Oklahoma, and Washington State and Geogia.

[BPBlueSox]

See in my opinion this is what is so great about college football. Every game means something. You can't go out and half ass it for a week...like Oklahoma did with Texas A&M...or Georgia did with Florida...why should these teams get a chance at a championship, while Ohio State went out and took care of business thirteen games in a row...

[spalek26]

O.K. I see your point, and I guess in your opinion the College football regular season is the playoffs. I like Ohio State and agree they deserve the chance to play for the National Title. I just think the Championship should be played on the field instead of in the polls, but that is more because I would love to see these teams play.

[BPBlueSox]

Well sure, if there was only one undefeated team, then the system sucks...but in a situation like this year, I feel there is no argument...

However, if Miami loses in their next two games...well then everything goes out the window...

[00_Agent]

EVERY OTHER MAJOR SPORT IS DECIDED BY A PLAYOFF. It's just the right thing to do.

I'm sorry, but I don't buy that bull about "every week meaning something." What if your only loss is to the eventual championship game winner, and you only lost by 3 points. (that's a hypothetical situation, but one that could very easily happen.)

OR what if there are 3 undefeated teams? They were very close to having a caniption over at the BCS headquarters until the last couple of weeks, because it looked like every one was going to go undefeated.

Penn State deserves a shot in a playoff system, so does Pitt. Yeah, I'm from pittsburgh, but I think Iowa, Oklahoma, Notre Dame, and a couple others deserve shots too.

In NCAA basketball a team can make it into the tournament as a 7 or 8 seed and end up national championship. In NCAA football, if you play Miami the first week of the season, lose by 1 point, and go undefeated the rest of the way, you have no shot. That's bologni.

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[awefullspellare]

know what?
if u make it with too many temas the aura of college football is lost! The sport thirves on one loss max. If u mkae a playooff u have to make a small one. I think K-State would eb in the final 4 if they were in it, Oklahoma too.

[00_Agent]

I don't particularly like the aura that they have now.

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[PissedPrincess]

Go Rick.

:smokin:

I could see your veins bulge in that post. I agree however.

[rfc17]

a playoff would ruin what makes college football exciting. losing just one game almost guarantees that you wont have a shot at the national title. college football is the only sport where every game you play is a must win. that makes every week exciting and every rivalry game more intense.

lets say you made a 4 team playoff. then you are going to have the same problem you have now. there is still going to be controversy over who the 4th and 5th best teams are just like who the 2nd and 3rd best are now. And if the team that gets ranked as the 5th best has a legitimate argument that they are better than the 4th best team and that 4th best team wins the playoff, its gonna be the same problem you have now. a 4 game playoff solves none of the problems that can arise now.

then you can argue make an 8 or 16 team playoff because the team who just misses those playoffs probably isnt the best team anyways. but then again, its not as important to win every game. if michigan st is undefeated coming in to their last game, where is the incentive to win besides pride? if they are smart, theyll sit down their starters, maybe win maybe lose, and still make the playoff. A big game like Oklahoma and Texas doesnt mean anything except pride cuz both teams would make the playoff anyways. Miami and Ohio St should be rewarded for showing up every week as opposed to most other teams who took off a week here or there and lost. And even if they didnt show up and play their best every week, they found a way to win unlike everyone else.

and just like every other major sport, a playoff doesnt guarantee the best team will win the championship game. itll just be whoever plays good enough in the regular season and gets hot during the playoffs. Colorado wasnt the best team in college football last year but if there was a playoff at the end of the season, there was a pretty good chance theyd win since they got hot at the very end there. Playoffs dont reward teams for staying consistently good throughout a year. It just rewards them for being good enough during the season and whomever gets lucky enough to be hot at the right time.


"In NCAA basketball a team can make it into the tournament as a 7 or 8 seed and end up national championship."

which means you are crowning champ a team that lost a third of their games during the season, got hot at the right time, and won 6 in a row. Why should a team that lost a third of their games even deserve a chance? I like March Madness as much as the next person but that doesnt mean its right for every sport. Every sport's playoff system has their flaws. In the NBA and NHL, you can make the playoffs with a losing record. In the NFL, teams with better records in better divisions may not make the playoffs because every division has to have a winner and a playoff team. plus, winning your division doesnt mean anything since only 6 of your 16 games are within the division. In baseball you play 162 games and make the playoffs but then losing 3 out of your next 5 kicks you out. whats 3 games if you just played 162? You could lose 3 out of 5 games ten different times during the regular season and easily finish with the best record in the whole league.

I think the college football system is fine because every game matters, winning your conference is actually a big deal, and rivalry games are even more important because a loss kills your title hopes. Not to mention the Bowl system is nice because its something different just like March Madness is something different. Its not the same, stale playoff system you see in other sports. The only problem I have with it is how they determine the best two teams with their BCS rankings. They havent gotten the championship game right the last two years.

[BPBlueSox]

Well said B....

[imgreat95]

Having attended college at a top DII football school, I can attest to the fact that a playoff system does not lessen the regular season. See.. what people seem to ignore is the fact that you have a 16 team field. There are 8 regions in the country. Only two teams from each region make the playoffs. That means that you have to be one of the top 2 teams in your region (Yes, we are talking regions... not conferences....) in order to make the playoff. So yes, it does make EVERY game a must win game. In 2000, SLippery ROck finished the season at 8-2. One loss coming against DIAA South Florida (who is now IA) and the other loss coming to the eventual runner-up in the national championship by a single TD. They missed the playoffs. It happens just like that every season.

The way you do it, is you only allow the winners of the 11 conferences in IA into the tournament, along with 5 at large teams. Those at large teams being the 2nd place team from the top 5 conferences. You then use a BCS type formula to seed those teams. That way, you still have to play every week as a MUST win game, but the National Championship is not decided by voters and/or computers. I feel that this would not lessen the regular season a single bit and would allow for championships to be won on the field not in some office in Bristol.

[rfc17]

"The way you do it, is you only allow the winners of the 11 conferences in IA into the tournament, along with 5 at large teams. Those at large teams being the 2nd place team from the top 5 conferences."

Well Notre Dame isnt in a conference and since everyone seems to love them, theyd get one of those at large bids. And only taking the 2nd best team in a conference would leave out Penn St, Michigan, Kansas St, and Texas or Colorado. Not to mention conferences like the Big East which isnt that good top to bottom but usually has two really good teams; only one would make the playoff.

And I dont see how you can leave out teams like that and include teams that win lousy conferences. This year you'd have North Texas, Boise St, TCU, and Marshall or Northern Illinois. Has any of those teams beat anyone remotely good?

And again, I dont see how some 3 loss team who loses a fourth of their regular season games, gets into this playoff, gets hot at the right time, and beats an undefeated team in the championship game would be anymore fair than the current system. You could win the championship and not even be the best team in your conference. That doesnt prove who the best team is.

All other sports that use a playoff system reward teams for being good enough during the season and being hot during the playoffs. College football is the only sport that rewards a team for being great the whole season.

[awefullspellare]

have only certain confrences get free ins, maybe the top 8 from the previous year!

Better yet, have the big 6 leave, and form their own divison, multiple level systems fascinate me, imagine a Premier, adn reegualr D-1A football system!

[imgreat95]

Bob, I was stretching it a bit when I said the 11 conferences. I am thinking more like an 8 team playoff with the 6 major champions and 2 at-large bids... or perhaps the top 2 in the 6 majors and 4 a-large. Or something along those lines. See, I just don'tr like championships decided by voters. To me, that puts it in the same category as ice skating and gymnastics.

[BPBlueSox]

The top 2 in the six majors, eh?

Probably would include Pitt...I see your reasoning in this suggestion...:hmm: :D

[imgreat95]

HAHA... no Dan...

Although, now that you mention it...:D

It DOES suck that Pitt is only about 2 TDs away from possibly playing for a National Championship.

[GiveHyzduashot]

And it DOES suck Penn State is only three calls away from possibly playing for the national championship. ;)

Pitt-Penn State for the national championship ... how great would THAT be?