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rfc17
12-13-2002, 01:28 AM
I guess he wont be going to college so this is probably the wrong board but oh well....
anyone else see his game tonight? looked impressive. but i didnt think he looked THAT impressive. looked like a bunch of other high schoolers who jumped to the NBA w/o going to college. another super athletic kid who matured early and is bigger than almost everyone he plays. has an ugly shot and plays lousy defense. only thing that separates him from other high schoolers who have left early is his passing.
he may turn into a pretty good player but it all depends on how his work ethic is. and he better make sure all that money wont go to his head. cuz he needs a lot of work on that jump shot and learn to play some defense. looked like he gave up on plays when he got beat.
BPBlueSox
12-13-2002, 02:35 PM
I agree with just about all of that. I watched about ten minutes of the game when I should have been studying just to see what he looked like...the passing was pretty damn nice...but the shooting...yikes. Shot selection was horrible. And no D at all...
rfc17
12-14-2002, 02:17 AM
wow, someone not in love with LeBron...
<i>Editor's Note: Page 2 asked Charley Rosen, a longtime coach and scout in professional basketball, to watch LeBron James on Thursday night and give us a scouting report on the 17-year-old phenom. He filed the following report.</i>
I don't know which aggravates me more: our crass, soulless, sporting-life culture, or the airhead kids who are at the same time its beneficiaries and its victims? Like LeBron James, the 17-year-old schoolboy phenom whom so many NBA pundits have already crowned as the Air Apparent.
OK, so James is going to be the NBA top draft pick come June, but he already refers to himself in the royal-third-person ("LeBron stays humble by just being LeBron"). And he also refers to himself as a "superhero" and as "Basketball Man." And even worse, after he dunks over an opponent, he's liable to shout "King James!" or "You sorry!"
Here comes another narcissistic young man who has been conditioned to believe that celebrity equals money equals power. Admire his talent, but pity his lost youth and forfeited innocence.
OK, his St. Vincent-St. Mary team "upset" the No. 1-ranked high school team in the country, Oak Hill Academy. And James's numbers were impressive -- 31 points, 13 rebounds, and six assists. While he certainly showed an abundance of sheer talent, he also demonstrated that he still has much to learn.
At 6-foot-8, 235 pounds, he can have his way among his peers along the baseline and in the pivot, but in the NBA, James will need to be an effective shooter. The problem here is that his release is a tad too low. Also that he fades slightly when he shoots his jumper. The result is that he holds onto the ball too long and will have some trouble shooting in tight quarters.
And what about his poor shooting percentage (40 percent)? He didn't make a jumper until later in the third quarter and then celebrated by banging his fist into his chest. He repeated this foolish routine when he connected on his only other jumper early in the fourth quarter. (The chest beating is supposed to demonstrate how much heart he has.) However, I didn't see any celebration when he arrogantly waved his teammates out of his way and launched an airball.
Let's review some of his buckets that roused the fans (and the TV announcers) into a frenzy:
Midway into the first quarter, James doesn't bother to get back on defense, and when a teammate makes a nifty steal and a pass downcourt, our hero finds himself ahead of the field and executes an dramatic dunk. How about another slam that resulted from an offensive rebound falling into his hands without a defender within reach? Or the layup off a perfect lob pass when he was fronted down low by a much smaller defender?
Big deal!
Yes, James has good hands, quick feet, extraordinary hops, and a lively body. Yes, he's also an outstanding passer. But his defense is atrocious.
His basic defensive stance is much too upright.
When defending a perimeter player, his hands are in his pockets.
When his team tried a full-court press, one of Oak Hill's guards absolutely left him in the dust.
He always looks for the easy way out, making perfunctory swipes at the ball, and gambling on every entry pass. His transition from offense to defense is shameful. Instead of hustling downcourt, he lingers near the ball, hoping for a steal. His post-up defense offers less resistance than a soft summer's breeze.
In short, LeBron James can't guard his own shadow.
What other shortcomings did the young hoopling reveal?
A barely adequate left hand.
A shaky behind-the-back dribble going left to right.
What's the one talent he possesses that will survive his entry into the NBA? His court vision and his ability to pass the ball.
In high school, LeBron James might be a man among boys -- but in the NBA, he'll be a boy among men. Skilled, experienced, powerful, and above all, ruthless men.
After the media hysteria dies down, after his arrogance is reduced to real humility, he might very well develop into a franchise player. But let's not reserve a wing in the Hall of Fame for LeBron James just yet.
BPBlueSox
12-14-2002, 03:11 PM
I agree with a lot of what that guy had to said...out of the 10 minutes that I saw him...
pcmyers
12-17-2002, 01:22 AM
i really wasnt all that impressed either. he really was lazy on defense and he had really poor shot selection. i think sum of that though had 2 do w/ the fact that every1 has hyped him WAAY 2 much 4 a freakin 17 yr old. i think sum of it got 2 his head and he felt he had 2 play awesome bcuz the whole country was watching and expecting sumthin awesome. i have seen sum downloaded videos of him, and he really can shoot from deep, plp do have off nights. give him time when he 1st gets n2 the NBA, i mean all yall were hatin on Yao, while i defended him and look at him now
rockin500
12-17-2002, 09:29 AM
can we say overhyped?!
and its bad when someone starts speaking RickeySpeak before 18. thats not good stuff.
lal4l
12-18-2002, 12:39 PM
Originally posted by pcmyers
i really wasnt all that impressed either. he really was lazy on defense and he had really poor shot selection. i think sum of that though had 2 do w/ the fact that every1 has hyped him WAAY 2 much 4 a freakin 17 yr old. i think sum of it got 2 his head and he felt he had 2 play awesome bcuz the whole country was watching and expecting sumthin awesome. i have seen sum downloaded videos of him, and he really can shoot from deep, plp do have off nights. give him time when he 1st gets n2 the NBA, i mean all yall were hatin on Yao, while i defended him and look at him now
Pretty good paul but u should change ure signature dont u want them to win this yr?
Kiwideus
01-01-2003, 05:55 PM
If i were a basketball Comissioner, I would make a policy any one who is under 20 is not eligible to enter NBA.. Kids need to go to College for better education and more experience before they go to NBA.
Lebron James is ok, just typical 17 years old who shows off with his dunk, getting all attention, his number labeled on his shoes... If he go to NBA he probably will end up like Kobe with big head and arrogrant attitudes...
lal4l
01-03-2003, 01:21 AM
He sux
Kiwideus
01-03-2003, 12:20 PM
Amen!
I Are Baboon
03-21-2005, 02:15 PM
:smokin:
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