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Baseball Guru
01-07-2003, 03:30 PM
By BEN WALKER
AP Baseball Writer

January 7, 2003, 2:16 PM EST


NEW YORK -- Eddie Murray silently led with his bat. Gary Carter spurred teams with his enthusiasm. Murray, the only switch-hitter with 500 home runs and 3,000 hits, was elected to the Hall of Fame in his first year of eligibility, and Carter finally made on his sixth try Tuesday.

No one else came close in voting by the Baseball Writers' Association of America.

Carry-over candidates Bruce Sutter, Jim Rice and Andre Dawson were right around 50 percent, and first-timers Ryne Sandberg and Lee Smith didn't even reach that mark. Darryl Kile, the St. Louis pitcher who died last season, got token support.

Murray, who made his mark as a first baseman for the Baltimore Orioles, became the 38th player picked as a first-timer. He easily exceeded the 75 percent necessary for election, getting chosen on 85 percent of the ballots (423 of 496).

Murray's ticket to Cooperstown came on a most somber day for him. Later in the day, he was to attend the funeral of his sister in Southern California.

Carter, an 11-time All-Star catcher, got in with 78 percent (387). He completed a climb that had seen him fall 11 votes short last year at 72.7 percent.

"I know I'm deserving," Carter said recently.

He played his first 11 seasons with Montreal and became the first person to have spent a significant portion of his career with the Expos to be elected.

Later, Carter helped lead the New York Mets to the 1986 World Series. Overall, he played five seasons for them.

Though players can express a preference as to which cap will appear on their Cooperstown plaque, the final choice rests with the Hall of Fame.

Induction ceremonies will be July 27 in Cooperstown, the small village in upstate New York. Murray and Carter bring the Hall's total to 256 members.

The reconfigured Veterans Committee, which is considering former manager Whitey Herzog, former players' union head Marvin Miller and many others, will announce its voting results Feb. 26.

Murray and Carter both got key hits the last time their teams won the World Series.

Murray, currently the Cleveland Indians' hitting coach, was an eight-time All-Star and finished with 504 homers and 3,255 hits in 21 seasons. He batted .287 overall and hit 19 career grand slams.

In 1983, Murray homered twice for the Orioles in the clinching Game 5 of the World Series against Philadelphia.

Murray never led the league in hitting, homers or RBIs in a full season, was never an MVP and never was friendly with the media, the people who do the Hall voting. Still, his sheer numbers -- posted mostly before baseball's offensive outbursts -- made him an automatic.

Carter, a three-time Gold Glove, got the two-out hit that started the Mets' incredible three-run rally in the bottom of the 10th inning to beat Boston in Game 6 of the 1986 Series. The Mets won the championship in Game 7.

Carter hit .262 with 324 homers and 1,225 RBIs in 19 seasons.

Pete Rose, ineligible for the ballot because he's on baseball's permanently banned list, received 18 write-in votes -- the same as last year. Rose and commissioner Bud Selig's aides have been negotiating terms of a possible reinstatement for the career hits leader.

Sandberg got 49.2 percent (244 votes). A 10-time All-Star second baseman for the Chicago Cubs, he holds the record for most homers as a second baseman (277) and highest fielding percentage (.989) at the position.

The 1984 NL MVP and a nine-time Gold Glove winner, Sandberg hit .285 lifetime.

Smith got 42.3 percent (210 votes). He is baseball's career saves leader with 478 saves and was a seven-time All-Star in 18 seasons. Too bad for him, he pitched in just four playoff games and was 0-2 with one save and an 8.49 ERA in them.

Only two relievers -- Rollie Fingers and Hoyt Wilhelm -- have been elected to the Hall.

Jim Kaat, who won 283 games, got 26.2 percent in his 15th and final year of eligibility with the BBWAA.

Kile, who got seven votes (1.4), was among several players who did not receive the necessary 5 percent to stay on the ballot. Mitch "Wild Thing" Williams was among four players who did not get a vote.

rockin500
01-07-2003, 03:46 PM
sandburg got screwed!! :angry: :Pissed:

congrats on the other two though

GaryMrMets
01-07-2003, 05:04 PM
Here is how the voting went:

Results from the Baseball Writers' Association of America Election
The list below contains the names and voting results for the 33 candidates who were eligible for the 2003 election to the National Baseball Hall of Fame via the Baseball Writers' Association of America (BBWAA) election. In order to be elected, eligible candidates were required to garner at least 75% of the votes on ballots cast. With 496 ballots cast, candidates receiving 372 or more votes were elected to the National Baseball Hall of Fame. Candidates receiving less than 5% of votes on ballots cast are not eligible for future BBWAA Hall of Fame elections. Thus, candidates receiving less than 25 votes will not appear on the BBWAA ballot in 2004. These individuals are denoted in italic type. Those players on the ballot for their 15th and final time, are denoted by an asterisk.

Candidate Votes % of Votes

Eddie Murray 423 85.28
Gary Carter 387 78.02
Bruce Sutter 266 53.63
Jim Rice 259 52.22
Andre Dawson 248 50.00
Ryne Sandberg 244 49.20
Lee Smith 210 42.34
Rich Gossage 209 42.14
Bert Blyleven 145 29.23
Steve Garvey 138 27.82
*Jim Kaat 130 26.21
Tommy John 116 23.39
Jack Morris 113 22.78
Alan Trammell 70 14.11
Don Mattingly 68 13.71
Dale Murphy 58 11.69
Dave Concepcion 55 11.09
Dave Parker 51 10.28
Fernando Valenzuela 31 6.25
Keith Hernandez 30 6.05
Darryl Kile 7 1.41
Vince Coleman 3 0.60
Brett Butler 2 0.40
Sid Fernandez 2 0.40
Rick Honeycutt 2 0.40
Tony Pena 2 0.40
Darren Daulton 1 0.20
Mark W. Davis 1 0.20
Danny Tartabull 1 0.20
Danny Jackson 0 0.00
Mickey Tettleton 0 0.00
Mitch Williams 0 0.00
Todd Worrell 0 0.00

bd811
01-07-2003, 05:29 PM
this is garbage. sandberg is the best 2B baseball has seen in a while! He is the best defensive 2B ever after Alomar. That alone should put him in because last year, Ozzie Smith, the best defensive SS after Visquel, got in solely for his glove. The factor in the fact that Sandberg has the most career home runs at his position, and he has way more credibiliy than a guy like Smith. Sandberg is just being punished, though, for being on the Cubs and never winning a world series. (Its not his fault Durham couldn't handle a groud ball.( I know that he will eventually be inducted, but if Ozzie Smith is a first-year inductee, than so too should Sandberg.

PopTop
01-07-2003, 05:31 PM
The BBWAA can kiss my south end as I walk north ... This concludes my recognition of the existence of baseball's Hall of Fame.

awefullspellare
01-07-2003, 05:46 PM
sooo snadberg is not in and Kiles one year in and one year out :(

Baseball Guru
01-07-2003, 08:16 PM
I'm suprised Sandberg was not closer.....

Finished 6th?:umm

Glad Carter got in though......

Whats really weird to me is that I consider the Hall kinda watered down with some that dont deserve to be in....
Now with that thought I think that Shawn and my HOF, located in the History forum is a bit more strict as far as who is in and who is not and even WE have Sandberg in our Hall....

imgreat95
01-08-2003, 05:48 AM
I can honestly say that I am shocked and very disappointed.

Both Ryne Sandberg and Lee SMith belong in the HOF. Who give s arat's ass if Smith never pitched in more than 4 playoff games.. Iss that REALLY his fault that he pitched for teams which sucked??

PopTop
01-08-2003, 09:16 AM
Originally posted by imgreat95
Both Ryne Sandberg and Lee Smith belong in the HOF. Who gives a rat's ass if Smith never pitched in more than 4 playoff games.. Is that REALLY his fault that he pitched for teams which sucked??

To the best of my knowledge, Ernie Banks never appeared in the postseason and, as I've pointed out before, was a sub-.500 Win Pct shortstop ... Guess we need to 86 his plaque from the Hall of Hypocrisy.

GiveHyzduashot
01-08-2003, 06:12 PM
I'm not trying to be rude or anything like that, but could someone explain how Kile's worthy of seven HOF votes while Sandberg and Smith are left out?

imgreat95
01-09-2003, 11:15 PM
Kyle reciving ANY votes, to me, shows exactly what I have long suspected. The fact that the baseball writers who vote, absolutely do not have a clue.

awefullspellare
01-09-2003, 11:17 PM
and their sipposed HONOR left him one and out!!! what a joke, if he had a chanbce fine but he shouldnt have been eligible!!