Pete Rose

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BASEBALL


Kiner Votes No On Rose In Hall
April 10, 2003
Combined Wire Services

Count Ralph Kiner among those who don't want to see Pete Rose enshrined in Cooperstown.

The Pirates Hall of Famer and current Mets broadcaster was emphatic during his visit to Pittsburgh this week that Rose disgraced the game with gambling and shouldn't be inducted into the Hall of Fame.

Commissioner Bud Selig is weighing whether to reinstate Rose, who accepted a lifetime ban in August 1989, but has denied betting on baseball.

"The integrity of baseball relies on there being no betting," Kiner said. "From what I understand, he bet on games involving his own team. I don't have a say in whether he gets in, though I do have a vote [on the Veterans' Committee], but I do have a right to say what I think, and I don't think he belongs."

Kiner said there is no question Rose deserves to be enshrined based on his performance on the field. Kiner also said he has no personal grudges against Rose, who always was accommodating and friendly when Kiner interviewed him.

"Every player who has ever played, especially since the Black Sox World Series in 1919, has been told there can't be gambling," Kiner said.

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The longer this goes, the more I think Rose won't get in ... The HOF seems bent on being tougher to get into now, we've seen that with the way the Vet Comm has voted and the fact Ryne Sandberg, who is obivously one of the best 2B to ever play the game, doesn't even get in on his first ballot ... I don't necessarily agree with it, but the HOF is setting itself to some very lofty standards right now with the current group of voters.

It's going to be tough for them to say, "We don't think players like Sandberg, Hodges and Santo or men who shaped the game like Marvin Miller deserve to be enshrined right now. But Pete Rose does."

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Wish I agreed with you, PT. I actually believe the opposite. Eventually, MLB, it's commissioner, the HOF, Rose and/or one of his supporters will help broker a settlement.

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hmmmmmm....... :hmm:

I've been a big supporter of letting Pete Rose into the HOF because he was such a great player..... But Kiner makes some very good points.

I agree that "The integrity of baseball relies on there being no betting"

Maybe it comes down to the question: Did Pete Rose actually bet on his own team???? From what I understand he denies betting on baseball, so is there proof??? :umm :umm