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rockin500
04-15-2003, 11:58 PM
damn, what is it about white sox fans? jiminy crowe!

some drunken fan attacks the umpire at comiskey park. the sox were facing the royals, the same team they were facing when the drunken morons attacked tom gamboa last year.

damn. the fan lost the match and the umpire was able to escape before being swarmed under by royals players and ballboys.

Special_K19
04-16-2003, 12:10 AM
That idiot sure got a beating at the hands of the Royals though. The Royals don't take kindly to drunken morons like him.

rockin500
04-16-2003, 12:14 AM
no they dont. but the umpire had it pretty much handled. i guess that ump has self defense training.

awefullspellare
04-16-2003, 12:14 AM
bad fans on the south side:hmm:

Special_K19
04-16-2003, 12:35 AM
Diaz has a military background I believe. He seemed to have the situation under control, and then the Royals made sure the guy wasn't going to do anything. I saw some big punches, a bunch of kicks, and it looked like one guy slammed his spikes on the guy's leg.

Big Dawg
04-16-2003, 12:40 AM
I dunno; I'd be preety pissed off if I was Gamboa. When he was attacked his own guy turns his back...but an umpire gets jumped and they all beat on the guy?

PissedPrincess
04-16-2003, 12:59 AM
People like that should be neutered. :angry:

BPBlueSox
04-16-2003, 01:12 AM
I kinda chuckled when I read about this to be honest. Well...that was after I saw that nobody got hurt...:D

Friggin White Sox fans...too funny...:hmm:

I Are Baboon
04-16-2003, 09:51 AM
Why can't White Sox fans keep their asses in the stands? The dude who attacked the ump was like the third or fourth person in the game to run on the field.

My question is, why should this guy be allowed to continue living? Seriously, what good could he possibly have to offer society?

Obri
04-16-2003, 10:01 AM
Originally posted by I Are Baboon
My question is, why should this guy be allowed to continue living? Seriously, what good could he possibly have to offer society?

Babs, I stated a similar thought in my Modern Studies class only a couple of weeks ago, and was accused of being too harsh and draconian. But I agree with you 100%. What use is this kind of moron on the streets with people who want to live a normal life. They would be mourned only by a few, and forgotten gratefully by everyone else. Unfortunately, I live in a country that has long abolished major sentences for most crimes, and in many cases, justice is simply not done, so my argument didn't really convince anyone.:angry:

OK, i'm done now.:D

pinstripes
04-16-2003, 10:07 AM
Originally posted by Special_K19
Diaz has a military background I believe. He seemed to have the situation under control, and then the Royals made sure the guy wasn't going to do anything. I saw some big punches, a bunch of kicks, and it looked like one guy slammed his spikes on the guy's leg.

Yep.... former U.S. Marine Corps reserve! :2guns:

Diaz said. "I just turned around and got him off me. The good hand-to-hand combat they taught me worked."
:clap2:

pinstripes
04-16-2003, 10:10 AM
Hey, whatever happened to those two idiots who attacked Tom Gamboa last year????? :umm

I hope they are still in prison! :angry:

I Are Baboon
04-16-2003, 11:08 AM
Originally posted by pinstripes
Hey, whatever happened to those two idiots who attacked Tom Gamboa last year????? :umm

I hope they are still in prison! :angry:

The younger dude got fined and 30 hours of community service. The older dude has yet to be sentenced from what I understand.


OBRI, great minds think alike. :D

PopTop
04-16-2003, 03:31 PM
The first thing that should happen is MLB exercising a restraining order against this fool ... Not just the Whiet Sox, the whole MLB ... If he's ever caught within X-feet of an MLB park, event or venue, he's in violation of the order and automaitically gets 5 years in the pokey.

The NBA, NFL, NHL, NASCAR, NCAA et al should also exercise an order against the fool ... Take away the person's entire ability to ever attend a major sporting, EVER! ... And this should be followed from here on out, any fool who runs on the basketball court, gridiron, etc should immediately be banned from all future major sporting events, FOR LIFE!

SlushyBOB
04-16-2003, 03:33 PM
I agree whole heartedly PopTop, but how would it get enforced?

GiveHyzduashot
04-16-2003, 11:58 PM
Originally posted by Big Dawg
I dunno; I'd be preety pissed off if I was Gamboa. When he was attacked his own guy turns his back...but an umpire gets jumped and they all beat on the guy?

:hmm:

When Gamboa was attacked, that was the first time a fan had attacked someone on the field in how long ... fifteen years? I think most everyone was stunned that some fans actually attacked the coach ... and that's why some KC players "turned their back."

Last night, everyone was on high alert with the Royals playing their first game after the Gamboa attack .. and when the fan attacked the umpire, there wasn't any hesitation, because they were already on their toes ... with Gamboa last year, it was completely unexpected, because nothing like it had ever happened.

Somehow, I have a difficult time believing Gamboa will be holding a grudge against any KC player who helped out Mr. Diaz. :hmm:

pinstripes
04-17-2003, 07:57 AM
Originally posted by I Are Baboon
The younger dude got fined and 30 hours of community service. The older dude has yet to be sentenced from what I understand.


30 hours of community service? That's not enough! :eviltongu

I agree with PopTop.... MLB should ban these idiots. The danger here is that one day a real whacko will carry a weapon onto the field! :angry:

PopTop
04-17-2003, 05:19 PM
Originally posted by SlushyBOB
I agree whole heartedly PopTop, but how would it get enforced?

Well, I didn't say it would be easy to enforce :D

You'd have to enforce it like any other restraining order ... It would be impossible to really post photos of him at every turnstile and leave it up to all of the ticket-takers ... Besides the very distinct possibility the violator(s) would no doubt try to sneak in with disguises ... But the thing is, these people are such fools, my thoughts are you could count on them trying something stupid again, they get arrested and discovered or, before they are simply ejected, a quick check of ID is performed with any previous violations showing up ... I mean, you violate a restraining order, you are in trouble.

Plus, maybe offer a reward ($1,000 ???) if you turn the fool in for violating the order ... One of their lowlife friends is bound to value the greenbacks over the friendship.

I dunno, Slushy ... How would you try and enfirce something like that? :umm

GaryMrMets
04-17-2003, 10:08 PM
http://www.nynewsday.com/sports/baseball/ny-secure0417,0,3364177.story?coll=nyc%2Dsports%2Dspa n%2Dheadlines

Game to Go on; MLB Will Review Security

The Associated Press

April 16, 2003, 7:26 PM EDT

Chicago -- Major league baseball will review security at ballparks nationwide to try to prevent fan violence following the attack on an umpire at a White Sox game.

Top baseball officials were in Chicago on Wednesday to investigate the assault on first base umpire Laz Diaz, which raised concern and questions throughout the majors.

It came just three months before U.S. Cellular Field hosts the All-Star game, and about seven months after a similar attack on a first base coach at the stadium.

Baseball commissioner Bud Selig said he was extremely troubled by the assault Tuesday night during the game between the White Sox and Kansas City Royals.

"There is no place in baseball for such deplorable fan behavior, and we urge that the guilty parties be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law," Selig said.

Kevin Hallinan, major league baseball's security chief, and Sandy Alderson, executive vice president of baseball operations in the commissioner's office, were looking into the attack. Selig said baseball would re-examine security at all stadiums.

Last September, Kansas City coach Tom Gamboa was pummeled by a father and son just yards from where the fan ran onto the field and tried to tackle Diaz by grabbing him around the waist.

Security and players rushed to help the 40-year-old Diaz, who served in the U.S. Marine Corps Reserve.

"I just turned around and got him off me," he said. "The good hand-to-hand combat they taught me worked."

Diaz was not hurt, but the fan needed treatment for minor injuries at a hospital after being thrown to the ground and roughed up by players. He was later seen with a bloody bandage on his head. His motive was not disclosed, and it was unclear whether he had been drinking alcohol.

"To have to deal with this yet again is really a black mark on the city and, frankly, the organization," White Sox general manager Ken Williams said Wednesday. "For it to happen twice in our city is unconscionable."

Police would not identify the fan because he had not been formally charged. But in a Chicago police report he was identified as Eric Dybas, 24, of Bolingbrook, Ill.

Police spokesman Pat Camden said the fan, who was led away in handcuffs, was being held Wednesday pending the filing of aggravated battery charges.

The White Sox announced several steps to increase security at its ballpark, beginning with Wednesday night's game against the Royals. Two people have been added to watch each foul line, ushers will check ticket stubs more frequently, and more public-address announcements will be made to remind fans of the penalties for going onto the field.

Kansas City general manager Allard Baird initially said he wasn't sure he wanted the Royals to play Wednesday night unless his team's safety was assured. He got that assurance during a meeting with Williams and Hallinan.

"What I said last night is what I meant," Baird said. "It was a concern. If something wasn't done, we wouldn't have played. But I felt comfortable after meeting with everybody. I'm satisfied."

Three other fans also charged onto the field Tuesday night -- getting close to players -- and were charged with misdemeanor criminal trespassing. They sprinted across the field until security guards tackled them.

Williams said the White Sox already are in touch with state officials, advocating stiffer sentences and jail terms for those who enter the field.

Across town at Wrigley Field, Cubs general manager Jim Hendry said he's satisfied with the security, and that no changes were made for Wednesday's game against the Cincinnati Reds.

Still, he said there's only so much that can be done to keep fans from running onto the field during games.

"You still couldn't prevent a person, one lunatic or whatever you want to call it, from trying to get his 10 seconds of fame," Hendry said. "I don't think you could ever say you're going to prevent it completely in any stadium: football, basketball, baseball, whatever."

Wrigley was the site of a fan-player fight three years ago when members of the Los Angeles Dodgers went into the stands after a fan stole a player's cap.

Umpire Mark Hirschbeck said everyone on the field is vulnerable, but solutions are limited.

"You know, anybody can jump on the field and get to somebody, whether it be a player, coach or an umpire, and there's a lot of kooks out there," Hirschbeck said. "You don't know what they're going to do."

"I think all you can do is defend yourself, do the best you can. Unless they put up big glass things on the side, and I don't think they're going to do that."

The 55-year-old Gamboa still has slight hearing loss in his right ear from last year's attack.

Now the Royals' bullpen coach, he said he thought security was tighter for his team's return. He felt safe -- at least before the game.

Copyright © 2003, Newsday, Inc.

PopTop
04-20-2003, 11:42 AM
You know times are weird when you actually side with Carl Everett on an issue ... This guy should be locked up, the same $250K bond, and never allowed in another major sporting event again, EVER!


AP Story @ ESPN (http://espn.go.com/mlb/news/2003/0419/1541458.html)

Everett plans to press charges against fan

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Associated Press


OAKLAND, Calif. -- Texas right fielder Carl Everett was hit in the back of the head with a cell phone thrown by a fan in the Rangers' 12-2 loss to the Oakland Athletics on Saturday.

The male fan was arrested, according to A's spokesman Jim Young, and Everett said he planned to press charges. Everett was discussing it with an Oakland police officer after the game in the clubhouse.

"Luckily I was wearing a hat,'' Everett said. "If it wasn't for the hat, I'd be cut back there. That fan should be ashamed of himself.''

Everett was hit four days after umpire Laz Diaz was attacked by a fan at U.S. Cellular field in Chicago during a White Sox-Royals game.

"This is always happening in major league baseball and maybe now they'll do something about it,'' Everett said. "I'm going to be pressing charges. Fans pointed him out and they arrested him. It's just ignorance and alcohol and probably too much of both. That's what causes this.''

An officer answering at the Oakland Police Department patrol desk said he had no information on the arrest.

Everett complained to umpires before the start of the sixth inning that he had been hit.

"I tossed it over the fence,'' Everett said of the phone. "We are all going to be heckled in this game. That's part of it. But it's wrong to throw stuff.''

Security was beefed up in the area, and Oakland's Terrence Long picked something up and threw it back into the stands when he got out there in the sixth.

"We have great fans here and there's no room for fans to throw things on the field,'' A's manager Ken Macha said. "When I saw what was happening, I immediately pointed out our head of security to the home plate umpire.''

Seattle right fielder Ichiro Suzuki has been hit by coins tossed by Oakland fans. Suzuki said he once collected 55 cents.

"That's got to stop,'' Texas' Rafael Palmeiro said. "When is this thing going to end? Someone is going to get hurt. It's dangerous to go out on the field and play baseball. We're all isolated out there. We're on an island by ourselves.''

Rangers manager Buck Showalter said there's only so much security can do to control fans.

"At some point, the people themselves have to change,'' Showalter said. "It's lucky he didn't get hurt any more. I would have reacted very similar.''

On Wednesday, Sandy Alderson, a vice president of baseball operations in the commissioner's office, said baseball is fed up with fan violence and will do everything in its power to eliminate the problem.

"We will spare no expenses,'' Alderson said.

"We will do whatever is necessary to maximize the consequences for those individuals who intrude on the field or assault or make any attempt to interact with umpires, players or coaches or fans in the stands.''

A call to Alderson was not immediately returned Saturday night.

sheffield_rocks
04-20-2003, 12:19 PM
:hmm: I think these fans are running a little too wild..maybe they should get rid of some of the seats that are closer to the field?

pinstripes
04-21-2003, 12:07 AM
"Texas right fielder Carl Everett was hit in the back of the head with a cell phone thrown by a fan"

This has to be the most stupid fan of the year! Didn't he think that someone might be able to trace the cell phone to him! :hmm:

As for Everett whining: "Luckily I was wearing a hat,'' Everett said. "If it wasn't for the hat, I'd be cut back there." How hard could the cell phone hit him???? Shutup you big baby! If you were in NY or Philly it would have been a beer bottle! :)

pinstripes
04-21-2003, 09:18 AM
Whoa......

"The phone was thrown from the second deck of the Coliseum, said David Rinetti, the A's vice president of stadium operations."

This fan threw a cell phone from up in the second deck and hit Everett in the head???? Instead of prosecuting this guy, the Rangers should offer him a contract! :D

GaryMrMets
04-21-2003, 11:56 PM
Chicago Alderman Balcer Wants Fines Raised to $1,000

.c The Associated Press

CHICAGO (April 21) -- A Chicago politician proposed an ordinance Monday that would increase the penalty for fans who go on the playing field during a sporting event, in response to last week's attack on an umpire at a White Sox game.

Alderman James Balcer proposed raising the fine from $100 to $1,000 for running onto the field during a pro sports game.

Also, anyone who runs onto the field and initiates physical contact with another person would be charged with a misdemeanor punishable by a fine of $1,000 and a mandatory jail sentence of up to 30 days.

Balcer, whose ward includes U.S. Cellular Field where the White Sox play, said his ordinance would not affect more serious infractions, like the attack on umpire Laz Diaz last Tuesday or the assault on Kansas City Royals coach Tom Gamboa during a game at the same field last year.

Those fans were charged with felony counts of aggravated battery. In the most recent case, Eric Dybas, 24, was ordered held in jail in lieu of $250,000 bail.

But Balcer said something beyond a $100 fine is needed to discourage fans from running onto the field. Three other fans ran on to the field last Tuesday.

"This type of behavior cannot continue to occur,'' Balcer said in a statement.

04/21/03 18:20 EDT

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Baseball Guru
04-22-2003, 10:37 AM
Uh oh!!!


We better get some more money for my funding:eek:

GaryMrMets
04-25-2003, 02:36 AM
Fan Charged for Throwing Phone

CHICAGO -- A 21-year-old man was charged with misdemeanor reckless conduct for allegedly throwing a cell phone onto Wrigley Field during a Chicago Cubs game.

Julio Alvarado, who was at the game with a friend, became annoyed with his companion's cell phone and threw it in the direction of third base at the bottom of the eighth inning Thursday afternoon, Chicago Police spokeswoman Officer Alice Casanova said.

Alvarado, of Chicago, told police he didn't intend to hit anyone, Casanova said.

But San Diego Padres third basemen Sean Burroughs said the phone hit him in the right foot.

"It shocked me,'' Burroughs said after the game. "It could have been worse, it could have hit me in the head.''

Obri
04-25-2003, 05:28 AM
Originally posted by pinstripes
This fan threw a cell phone from up in the second deck and hit Everett in the head???? Instead of prosecuting this guy, the Rangers should offer him a contract! :D

I second that.:D