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uj4l
05-04-2003, 05:23 PM
http://www.nba.com/news/duncan_mvp_030504.html
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Tim Duncan Wins Second Straight MVP Award

NEW YORK, May 4 -- Tim Duncan of the San Antonio Spurs is the winner of the Maurice Podoloff Trophy as the NBA’s Most Valuable Player for the second straight season, the NBA announced Sunday.


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Tim Duncan averaged 23.3 points and 12.9 rebounds in 2002-03.
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The five-time NBA All-Star finished the season averaging 23.3 points (seventh in NBA), 12.9 rebounds (third) and 2.93 blocks (third) in 81 games. Duncan turned in 58 double-double (points-rebounds) performances this season, including a league-high six 20-plus point and 20-plus rebound outings. On March 21 he scored his 10,000th career point becoming the 13th fastest player in NBA history to score at least 10,000 points and grab at least 5,000 rebounds.

The 7-foot, 260-pound forward totaled 962 points in MVP balloting, including 60 of a possible 119 first-place votes, from a panel of sportswriters and broadcasters throughout the United States and Canada. Players were awarded 10 points for each first-place vote, seven points for each second-place vote, five for third, three for fourth and one for each fifth-place vote received.

This season, Duncan led the Spurs to a 60-22 overall mark, which tied for the best record in the NBA with the Dallas Mavericks, and their fourth Midwest Division title during his six-year NBA career. San Antonio also earned the top seed in the Western Conference playoffs and home-court advantage throughout the postseason. He is the second San Antonio Spurs player to win the MVP award, joining teammate David Robinson who was so honored for the 1994-95 season.

The first overall selection in the 1997 Draft by the Spurs, Duncan joins an elite list of only 10 players in NBA history to collect multiple MVP awards: Kareem Abdul-Jabbar (six-time winner), Michael Jordan (five), Bill Russell (five), Wilt Chamberlain (four), Larry Bird (three), Magic Johnson (three), Moses Malone (three), Bob Pettit (two) and Karl Malone (two). Duncan is the first back-to-back winner since Jordan in 1990-91 and 1991-92.

A five-time recipient of the NBA’s Western Conference Player of the Week Award, Duncan scored 30 or more points 16 times and 20 or more 56 times during the 2002-03 season. He hit his second career regular season triple-double (third overall) vs. the Los Angeles Clippers on March 14 finishing with 24 points, 15 rebounds and 10 assists in 34 minutes of play. Duncan also collected 25 rebounds on February 1, the league season-high this year.

On Feb. 11, Duncan was selected to play for the 2003 USA Basketball Men’s Senior National Team that will compete in the 2003 FIBA Men’s Olympic Qualifying Tournament in San Juan, Puerto Rico.

Voted as a starter in this year’s All-Star Game, Duncan scored 19 points and grabbed 15 rebounds in a 155-145 double overtime West victory on February 9 at Atlanta’s Philips Arena.

Along with his two MVP Awards, Duncan has also collected the 1997-98 Rookie of the Year, the 1999 NBA Finals Most Valuable Player, the co-MVP of the 2000 NBA All-Star Game and the 2001-02 NBA IBM Award during his six-year pro career.

The NBA MVP trophy is named in honor of the late Maurice Podoloff, the first commissioner of the NBA who served from 1946 until his retirement in 1963. Attached are the voting results for the 2002-03 NBA Most Valuable Player Award.




COngrats to Duncan! He deserved it!:clap2: :clap2:

renuszm
05-04-2003, 05:35 PM
Better him then Kobe, but I would of still preferred if Garnett won it.

Congrats to Duncan on another excellant season, he is staying in SA next season right?

milky_way
05-04-2003, 06:13 PM
I too would have liked to have seen Garnett win it :(. Does anyone know who came in second, third and fourth? :notme:

But Duncan's deserving as well...here's to Timmah NOT getting bounced by the Lakers in the second round :beer: :drinkin: :clap2:

renuszm
05-04-2003, 06:39 PM
I'm not sure so dont quote me on this but I think it was.
1. Duncan
2. Garnett
3. AI
4. Kobe

awefullspellare
05-04-2003, 06:40 PM
5. Shaq

milky_way
05-04-2003, 06:41 PM
that can't be right, where the hell is T-MAC? :umm

renuszm
05-04-2003, 06:44 PM
Originally posted by milky_way
that can't be right, where the hell is T-MAC? :umm
T-Mac was in a .500 team and has never led his team to the second round of the playoffs.

awefullspellare
05-04-2003, 06:49 PM
Originally posted by milky_way
that can't be right, where the hell is T-MAC? :umm
1.Duncan
2.KG
3.Kobe
4. T-MAC
5.Shaq
6.AI
7.Dirk
8.Big Ben
Kobe Bryant of the Lakers finished third in the MVP voting with eight first-place votes and 496 points, followed by league-leading scorer Tracy McGrady, Shaquille O'Neal, Allen Iverson, Dirk Nowitzki and Ben Wallace.

lal4l
05-04-2003, 11:12 PM
KG would have won it if they beat the Lakers

milky_way
05-04-2003, 11:26 PM
Originally posted by renuszm
T-Mac was in a .500 team and has never led his team to the second round of the playoffs.
Yeah but he's also the league's leading scorer and without him the Magic would be one of the worst teams in the East

I can't believe he's below Kobe :hmm:

And this is the REGULAR season MVP, so postseason has nothing to do with it lal. Plus, the T-Wolves just got knocked out of the playoffs a couple days ago, and i think the voting may have taken place before then.

lal4l
05-04-2003, 11:50 PM
it says who is in 2nd place and lower on the link

renuszm
05-05-2003, 08:51 AM
Originally posted by milky_way

And this is the REGULAR season MVP, so postseason has nothing to do with it lal. Plus, the T-Wolves just got knocked out of the playoffs a couple days ago, and i think the voting may have taken place before then.
Well I think it does, if you realize something all of the 5 canditates were all pretty high seeds and that sets them up to be a good playoff team. And without Garnett, where would the Timberwolves be? Without Duncan, where would the Spurs be? Without Shaq, where would the Lakers be? It isnt only T-Mac.

PissedPrincess
05-05-2003, 02:24 PM
Gross. I hate Duncan. I hate Sac, Dallas, and San Antonio.

Fake teams, more like corporations than teams.:angry: No history.

Bland.:barf: :barf: :barf:

I voted for AI.:cool:

renuszm
05-05-2003, 05:07 PM
AI was my second choice, he had a queitly good season.

uj4l
05-05-2003, 05:53 PM
it was hard between Garnett, Kobe, Duncan. I wanted kobe to win it but i thought Duncan was gonna win

renuszm
05-05-2003, 05:55 PM
It wasnt hard with Kobe, we already went through this, Kobe couldnt win without Shaq.

awefullspellare
05-05-2003, 07:18 PM
Originally posted by pedro's princess
Gross. I hate Duncan. I hate Sac, Dallas, and San Antonio.

Fake teams, more like corporations than teams.:angry: No history.

Bland.:barf: :barf: :barf:

I voted for AI.:cool:
YAY!!! AI support.. hes only popualr in the ghettos but i think hes one of the best ever at that height.. 6' 1" and that good :O im 6' 1.5" and man is he a ton better then me :D

i woulda voted for Shaq though as he is the MVP.... T-Mac 2nd and AI 3rd.. KG 4th.. and MJ 5th cuz hes still the greates ever :D

lal4l
05-05-2003, 08:58 PM
Originally posted by awefullspellare
YAY!!! AI support.. hes only popualr in the ghettos but i think hes one of the best ever at that height.. 6' 1" and that good :O im 6' 1.5" and man is he a ton better then me :D

i woulda voted for Shaq though as he is the MVP.... T-Mac 2nd and AI 3rd.. KG 4th.. and MJ 5th cuz hes still the greates ever :D

SHAQ YAY YAY!

milky_way
05-06-2003, 12:37 AM
Originally posted by renuszm
Well I think it does, if you realize something all of the 5 canditates were all pretty high seeds and that sets them up to be a good playoff team. And without Garnett, where would the Timberwolves be? Without Duncan, where would the Spurs be? Without Shaq, where would the Lakers be? It isnt only T-Mac.
Garnett has never gotten out of the first round, should that be held against him? :umm I understand how seeding is usually a factor in deciding the MVP because it shows which teams were best in the regular season, but i don't think one team's performance in the postseason should have any affect on whether a certain player gets the MVP or not. If the Magic knocked off Detroit, which they almost did, would that have changed the results?

And also, Shaq has Kobe, and Kobe has Shaq, i don't think either of them are as important to the Lakers as T-Mac is to the Magic. Duncan has a pretty good supporting cast, no real stars, but very good role players and Tony Parker can give you 20/10 on a good night. I'll give you Garnett and Iverson though, their teams would definitely suck without him.

But i still think they have better surrounding players than T-Mac. Who does T-Mac have to back him up? Two rookies? Orlando would be battling Cleveland for 'Worst team in the League' honors if they didn't have T-Mac.

awefullspellare
05-06-2003, 12:43 AM
if you had the first pick in the draft... who would you take?

milky_way
05-06-2003, 01:06 AM
:umm that doesn't really deal with this thread...

renuszm
05-06-2003, 08:43 AM
Originally posted by milky_way
Garnett has never gotten out of the first round, should that be held against him? :umm I understand how seeding is usually a factor in deciding the MVP because it shows which teams were best in the regular season, but i don't think one team's performance in the postseason should have any affect on whether a certain player gets the MVP or not. If the Magic knocked off Detroit, which they almost did, would that have changed the results?

Garnett never gets out of the first round because he usually plays teams like the Lakers.

T-Mac, IMO has a better supporting cast too, he has Grant Hill (I dont care if he' never healthy) Drew Gooden, and Gordan Giricek. and Garnett has Wally Szcerbiak who is sometimes the most inconsistent player in the NBA.\This is also not mentioning that Garnett had a higher seed in the first place.

awefullspellare
05-06-2003, 08:46 AM
oh. good point.. i forgot to make a different thread...:banghead

but i think if u were starting a new team you would take Shaq... i think he woulda won the award anyways but he was out earlier...Shaw can dominate any team any night if he wants too and i think hes the best player by far... of course he has Kobe but IMO if he had Chauncy Billups he would be just as good...

renuszm
05-06-2003, 08:49 AM
I think really Shaq is the MVP, but his injury at the start of the year hurt him and had a few more down the stretch.

milky_way
05-06-2003, 11:45 PM
Originally posted by renuszm
T-Mac, IMO has a better supporting cast too, he has Grant Hill (I dont care if he' never healthy) Drew Gooden, and Gordan Giricek. and Garnett has Wally Szcerbiak who is sometimes the most inconsistent player in the NBA.\This is also not mentioning that Garnett had a higher seed in the first place.
McGrady has a better supporting cast?? :eek: :umm

IMO, neither Gooden or Giricek right now are as good a player as Wally Szcerbiak, as inconsistent as he may be. Szcerbiak somehow was able to average 17 points a game. And Hill? McGrady had him for 29 games before he got injured again. Yes, T-Mac may have a better supporting cast IF Hill was healthy, but as you said, he never is. I hardly consider Hill as much support to T-Mac since he played not even half the season.

T-Mac accounted for nearly 30% of Orlando's offense and led the team in scoring in 75 out of 89 games, Garnett accounts for just a shade below 24% and led the team in scoring 60 out of 88 games.

I'm not trying to say T-Mac deserved to win more than Garnett, because i don't think he does/did, but i do think that out of the five contenders T-Mac had the worst supporting cast. For almost every Magic game i've seen, Orlando lived and died by T-Mac.

renuszm
05-07-2003, 09:18 AM
Gooden stats:
12.5 PPG
6.50 RBP
1.2 APG

Giricek:
12.3 PPG
3.10 RBG
1.8 APG

Szcerbiak:
17.6 PPG
4.60 RBG
2.6 APG

Giricek and Gooden give more to the Magic then Szcerbiak does. besides Wally is a nobody without Garnett.

And Grant Hill, like I said I dont care if hes injured all the time, he is still on the team. And when he and T-Mac played togethor earlier, they still looked like an 8th place team.