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shnuskis

01-07-2005, 10:17 AM

I've been sayin this since Tice got there. THROW IT DEEP. Moss has one strength, going up and getting the football. Go back to the great offenses with Denny Green. It didn't matter who was at qb, as long as they had a great arm. Jeff George and Cunningham just chucked it up down field and let Moss go get it. Especially Cunningham. Moss would be running down the sideline and Cunningham would chuck it as high and as far as he could down the MIDDLE of the field. Moss would just go get it. Moss's strength sure isn't running routes, unless it is straight down field.

I would throw it deep at a minimum once per quarter to Moss. Maybe even every drive.(I just wouldn't give it a name or a ratio and anounce it to the media.) :hmm:

>TC<

01-07-2005, 10:40 AM

Moss is under increased scrutiny today, locally.

He was on local KFan radio last night, calling into Mike Tice's show with Dan Barerro.
Some lowlights: He said that it shouldn't have been a big deal, that he walked off the field. "I do what I want to do." He said he did regret it but he might do it again sometime if he felt like it.
:He was indignant that any of his teammates would criticize him or be mad.
:He was also asked if he was ready to make big plays on Sunday to lead the team to victory. He said if he felt like it, and if his teammates supported him, he would be ready to make plays.
:As far as not talking to the local media, he said that everyone in the Twin Cities is negative about the team. He said that he will only talk to media who are always positive. He said that the media has no right to criticize him or the team.

Some promos of his interview with ESPN have been playing, and he is asked if Mike Tice is the right coach for the Vikings. His response is that he doesn't know if he is or if he isn't. He did say he would try to cover Coach Tice's back.

TC

Durango53

01-07-2005, 11:49 AM

Man just when you think he has stepped up and is right for this team he does this.....

I am about ready to go back to this team dont do anything with Moss.....

The dude is a great great player and if wanted to be the best off all time at WR but I dont think he wants to put in the work or the thought that comes with it....

Vikings lose this week... :(

rockin500

01-07-2005, 12:37 PM

well, its not like Tice really helps matters along either. He is an enabler of Moss, so what should you expect of him?

not to mention, he is a receiver. 98% of them are selfish bastards who are "Me first, Team last". Randy just says it instead of thinking it.

Durango53

01-07-2005, 01:39 PM

Sunday, 4:30 ET, FOX: The teams met twice in the regular season, with the Packers winning both games by identical scores (34-31). So it makes you wonder why the Vikings are six-point underdogs for this game. What's changed? Why shouldn't this be game be decided by another Ryan Longwell field goal? Longwell had game-winning 33- and 29-yard field goals, respectively, as time expired to decide the first two games.

This should be the same type of game -- high-scoring and close. And based on recent history, signs point to another Green Bay victory. The Vikings have lost their last three games to the Packers and five of their last six away from home. But this is Minnesota's main rival, and though the teams have met 88 times, they have never met in the playoffs. You can believe that coach Mike Tice will be stressing to the Vikings that the Packers don't have a major home-field advantage. The Vikings beat them in Lambeau in the season opener last season, and Green Bay went 4-4 at home this season.

What will be interesting to see is if the Vikings try to run the ball. They've gotten away from the run since losing tight end Jim Kleinsasser and right tackle Mike Rosenthal to season-ending injuries. Even though they have the deepest backfield in the league with four quality running backs, they run the ball only 39 percent of the time. Vikings backs are only getting 24 carries a game.

Given the Packers' trouble on the defensive line, Minnesota might want to emphasize the run. It turns out that defensive tackle Grady Jackson is going to need knee surgery after the season. His presence as a run-stopper is vital to the Packers. With Jackson, the Packers are actually decent stopping the run. He's better than Gilbert Brown, because he's more than just a run-stopper. That's also important since the Packers are having trouble with Cletidus Hunt, who was benched last week because coach Mike Sherman hasn't been happy with his play.

This game should go down to the last few plays because of the great quarterback play of Favre and Daunte Culpepper.

John Clayton is a senior writer for ESPN.com.

If Moss pulls his head out of his ass I think old John Clayton is right. He has brought up some points in this and the main on is that the Vikings aint running no more.....

But those who have been in the Viking thread this year know that this is a major compaint of ours....

Durango53

01-09-2005, 12:13 AM

The Minneapolis Star Tribune reports Campbell has recovered from his separated right shoulder and is expected to play Sunday vs. the Packers.

Now they just have to use him!!!

Durango53

01-09-2005, 12:14 AM

The St. Paul Pioneer Press reports that Moss called coach Mike Tice's radio show on Thursday night, owning up to the incident, but didn't rule out the possibility of doing it again.

Well Randy if you do, do it again I think Matt Birk said what he would do....

BPBlueSox

01-09-2005, 12:35 AM

He didn't rule out the possibilty of doing it again? I thought Moss was supposed to have put this crap behind him.

Durango53

01-09-2005, 07:40 PM

Hey TC any news on getting Clayborn resigned????

Durango53

01-09-2005, 08:46 PM

Wow what a statment!!!!!!!!!

That D came up great today and took advantage of the bad plays that the Pack had!!! That is something we havnt seen all this season!!!!!

They came up and POPed the ball carryer....

NICE WIN TICE!!!!!!!!! Nice game plan... You guys ran the ball more this game than all season long and what happened??? YOU WON!!!!!!

>TC<

01-10-2005, 02:02 AM

Injury report: not too good
Moe Williams was on crutches after the game, with an ankle sprain. He'll probably be doubtful or questionable for next week, at best.
Randy Moss has a high ankle sprain. As anyone who watched the game probably noticed, he could barely run by the end. This injury will be evaluated day by day.
Kelly Campbell had his arm in a sling after the game. He agrivated his shoulder injury.

TC

>TC<

01-10-2005, 02:07 AM

Big rumor around town is that the team could be sold within 45 days. The NFL office is doing some matchmaking here. They have apparently talked to Glen Taylor about adding Reggie Fowler to the deal.

Don't expect anything to happen on the FA front until all this is settled.

TC

Timberwolf

01-10-2005, 04:22 AM

I am tired of hearing talks about Red selling the team. I want it to actually happen.

Durango53

01-10-2005, 11:40 AM

Oh I hope you are right TC!!!!!!!!

OH PLEASE SELL THIS TEAM!!!!!!!

Durango53

01-10-2005, 12:07 PM

Adam Goldberg was just on the Fan!!! What a great player!!! (Ok he might not be the best player but he is a great great guy!!!!) And two people I was the happest for in this game was Tice and Adam... After a couple of rough weeks for both these guys both came up huge.... Adam had a great game blocking!!! He is going to need that to build off of it for facing the Eagles this week..

I think he is going to have a great game again!!!

Durango53

01-10-2005, 12:12 PM

My bad I got to give props to a guy I have bashed all season long....

Bryant McKinnie also played his BUTT off!!!! As this whole line this week... But I have beat up Bryant all season long and it seems that Tice did also. Fired the boy up and he played like a first round pick!!! Great game Bryant...

Durango53

01-10-2005, 12:16 PM

How about this to..

The Vikings Ran the ball this week!!!! They mixed it up and took the big play off the run!!!! Funny that was how they won all those games last year and now they win again doing that!!!!

Did something click. After being on of the best running teams the past two years and now this year being the worst running team they get it going and dont drop it and keep punching with the run!!!

Great game Bennett and Smith!!!

MOE GET BETTER!!!!!!!! :( THIS TEAM NEEDS YOU!!!!

Durango53

01-10-2005, 12:27 PM

"I can be effective Sunday," Grady Jackson said. "I know Matt Birk can't block me one-on-one, so I look at it like I'm going to have a double-team block every time."

Huh he should have been more worried about playing the game than who was going to block him!!!!

And it looked like Matt did just fine....

Oh by the way who is a Pro-Bowler???

Durango53

01-10-2005, 12:37 PM

fans seem to have forgotten that despite the season Peyton Manning has had, Daunte Culpepper has had an incredible year, too. He passed for more than 4,700 yards and had 39 touchdown passes.

Durango53

01-10-2005, 12:39 PM

This one is for PP!!! :wave1:

Now, Wiggins can't run, he's not athletic but he's from East Boston. All he does is make plays. There's nothing like learning how to catch that out-pass in the gutter and then having to hurdle the fire hydrant. That streetball stuff is something a kid in the country doesn't have to deal with.

And since Nov. 1, Jermaine Wiggins has had numbers like Tony Gonzalez and Jason Witten among tight ends.

Durango53

01-10-2005, 12:45 PM

WR Randy Moss is a force in the playoffs, and the team plans to utilize him exclusively and intensely in the red zone for as long as it continues playing. Moss met his physical match several times during the regular season, being out-muscled by Chicago CB Charles Tillman and Green Bay CB Al Harris. But Moss raised his level of physicality against Harris in the playoffs and subtly pushed him out of the way for a pair of touchdown receptions. Moss has mastered the ability to redirect his opponent without appearing to push him blatantly. The move is similar to a defensive end's swim move; Moss moves one arm over his opponent's shoulder while pushing him with the other. . . .

It is a great move also... It was the reason he caught that first TD of his!!!!

Durango53

01-10-2005, 12:47 PM

FREE AGENT BUZZ: The team appears set to pursue a safety in free agency after being disappointed with the play of SS Corey Chavous and FS Brian Russell. Both players took a step back after combining for 17 interceptions in 2003, and Russell is a pending free agent. One player the team could pursue is Donovin

Darius, a hard-hitting safety who would establish additional credibility in the defensive backfield along with CBs Antoine Winfield and Brian Williams.

I would love this move. I like Russell a lot as a guy and a player that plays his butt off but I think it is a place where the Vikings can get better at..

BUT the Vikings must get this owner thing done!!!

Durango53

01-10-2005, 12:50 PM

KEY MATCHUP: Vikings RT Adam Goldberg against Eagles RE Jevon Kearse. Goldberg is the team's fourth-string right tackle, and while a hard worker, he is no match for Kearse's speed and athleticism on the edge. Opponents have been able to stop QB Daunte Culpepper only by getting inside pressure, and Kearse could single-handedly slow down Culpepper if Goldberg cannot handle him. The team figures to give Goldberg help on the edge, but it will be Goldberg's job to stop Kearse from taking an inside rush toward Culpepper.

Yes this is the match up that Goldberg MUST get done... As he said in the Kfan talk he had he is excited about it because he can prepare for it all week and be ready for it... He says he will get it done now that he can be ready for this and study Kearse...

GO ADAM!!! Show them what Wyoming boys can do!!!! :cool:

Thedatch

01-10-2005, 12:56 PM

Yes this is the match up that Goldberg MUST get done... As he said in the Kfan talk he had he is excited about it because he can prepare for it all week and be ready for it... He says he will get it done now that he can be ready for this and study Kearse...

GO ADAM!!! Show them what Wyoming boys can do!!!! :cool:

who is your left tackle? couldnt they switch em up for a game? i dunno how difficult that is, but...

Durango53

01-10-2005, 01:05 PM

Bryant McKinnie is. But the problem is that if they do that they will just move Kearse over. Also Mount McKinnie hasnt been the best this season also. He had a the best game of the year in the game with the Pack and is a Number 7 over all draft pick two years ago. This guy last year didnt let anyone by him. He didnt give up a sack in college. He is the blind side guy for Culpepper...

Thedatch

01-10-2005, 01:07 PM

:laff: hadnt even thought of that...if the OL cane move, so can the DL :)

Durango53

01-10-2005, 01:14 PM

The Jacksonville Times-Union reports that Scott Linehan, the Vikings' offensive coordinator, is a top candidate to replace Bill Musgrave.

Well I cant say I wouldnt be sad to see him go. I just hope they get a guy that wants to run the ball just as much as pass!!!

PissedPrincess

01-10-2005, 01:33 PM

Love Wiggy. All the Pats players used to rag on him, because know matter how good anyone else played, the reporters always rushed to him. Law ans Milloy used to roll their eyes and say, well, he's from Eastie. :clap:

Durango53

01-10-2005, 01:35 PM

PP I think he could walk into any bar or eat joint in MN this year and get everything for free.....

I am thinking I am going to love seeing next season with Wiggy and Kline at TE with Moss and Nat as WR!!!! That would be a great set to see line up!!!

Durango53

01-11-2005, 02:36 PM

Moss' sprained right ankle won't keep him from playing, the St. Paul Pioneer Press reports. "He's limping around pretty good today," coach Mike Tice said Monday. "He knows how to treat it. He's resilient. He bounces back pretty quickly."

Durango53

01-11-2005, 02:55 PM

PissedPrincess

01-11-2005, 08:18 PM

Let me know when/if Moss is gonna play.

Durango53

01-12-2005, 01:14 PM

He is going to play and start. But I will see if I can find anything on in the paper for you PP.... ;)

Durango53

01-12-2005, 01:21 PM

Some Great points in this read...

http://www.twincities.com/mld/twincities/sports/10622087.htm
Don't you see? This is wonderful. McCombs, Tice and the players all are on the same page, maybe for the first time. They are standing together with a common purpose. So what if Moss turned the other cheek to the Green Bay crowd? He's still our guy!

Durango53

01-12-2005, 01:23 PM

For PP

WIGGINS ON THE WAY UP - Vikings TE Jermaine Wiggins had a career season with 71 catches for 705 yards and 4 TDs. His 71 receptions are 2nd on the Vikings single-season mark for catches by a TE, a record held by Joe Senser with 79. He became only the 2nd TE to lead the team in receptions (Steve Jordan, 1985-86). He is the 1st player since 1986 not named Carter or Moss (Anthony Carter, Cris Carter and Randy Moss) to lead the Vikings in catches. Wiggins is only the 4th Vikings TE to catch 50+ passes in a season, joining Senser, Steve Jordan and Byron Chamberlain. Wiggins led the team despite missing 2 games with a broken bone in his hand suffered against Philadelphia.

Durango53

01-12-2005, 01:28 PM

Ok PP there isnt to much talk about Moss because it seems that there just isnt to much to talk about... Moss should be good to go and ready.... Moss plays HUGE in big games and this is the biggest game he has played in for a long time but here is a quote from a press confrence with Tice...

Q: How's Randy Moss' ankle?
Tice: We have some guys banged up. Randy's ankle and Mike Nattiel's knee and obviously Kelly's (Campbell) shoulder, but that's going to go in and out on him. He'll get dinged and he'll shake it off. The only one I'm really concerned about is Moe. I think everyone else should be fine. The second guy I'm probably concerned about would be Mike Nattiel. We'll see how his MRI comes out on that knee. It's showing unfortunately little signs of a similar knee injury that E.J. (Henderson) had early in the season, where we had to sit E.J. for a couple weeks. That would certainly hurt our special teams, and it would call other starters into play. We don't have anyone we can bring up, but say E.J. might have to take punt team or Brian Russell might have to take kickoff. So you're going to have to at this point call some starters into duty. It's not time to bring a practice squad player up and say, "Okay, you're the guy." We tried that a couple weeks ago, and it didn't work out in Washington with a practice squad player.

And then I read this
Tue Jan 11 2005 - Moss' sprained right ankle won't keep him from playing, the St. Paul Pioneer Press reports. "He's limping around pretty good today," coach Mike Tice said Monday. "He knows how to treat it. He's resilient. He bounces back pretty quickly."

Thedatch

01-12-2005, 01:32 PM

Last night I had ESPN radio on in the truck...

They was talking to a Eagle guy. There FS (Dont know the name off the top of my head) and he was talking all this crap about how the Vikings are disrespting them. By saying that they wanted to play them again because they felt like they could have won the last game they played....

Come on did this guy play in that game? I was laughing my butt off by this loser trying to make it the Eagles are the underdog and it is us against the world no one is respecting us and the Vikings are talking trash to us and about us!!!

Does this get old to anyone but me???

Oh, its getting mighty old...i think coaches need to start putting a gag order on players, especially in the playoffs...seems like everyone thinks everyone else is disrespecting them, bla bla bla...i dunno if they are trying to get an emotional edge or what, but they just need to Shut the F up and play!

Durango53

01-12-2005, 01:37 PM

Ya Datch that is what they are trying to do. Every team wants it is us against everyone... Everyone is disrespeting us. We are the underdog blah blah blah.....

Go though practice shut up and let your play on the game be the talk for you... That is one nice thing about Moss. He doesnt talk to the press and he will just say look at the tape of the game that is my statment....

>TC<

01-12-2005, 02:10 PM

I am really worried about Moe being out. With Kleinsasser out, he is the only back the Vikings can use in pass protection who will get the job done almost every time. When he was out against the Eagles the first time we played them, the offense really struggled against the pass rush. The other RB's will have to step up big to cover Daunte and give him time. I look for Ontario Smith to get most of the snaps on 3rd down.

Today is the first day of practice for Randy but Tice seems confident that he will be okay for the game. Tice also acknowledged that Moss probably won't be at 100% but that he would still be capable of making big plays.

TC

Durango53

01-12-2005, 02:44 PM

I am with you Mark....

I was about screaming at the TV when Moe went down....

I dont think many people know what that guys does for this team...

Durango53

01-14-2005, 11:39 AM

A few notes I have heard....

Moe had been taking the week off and HE IS PLAYING!!!!! He is dressing as they said it is more than likly going to be just a blocker and do what he can for the team!!!!!

Tice also said Moss is ok and has gone though the walk though and his Mouth is more than ok :D

Man is there MORE of a team player than Moe.... He is my second favorite player on this team!!! He is a stud that gives his all for the team....

rockin500

01-14-2005, 11:54 AM

his mouth sure is working. :laff: I LOVED his comments on the fine. He said it honestly (about the 10 grand meaning nothing, since it is true).

straight cash, homey. :cool:

Durango53

01-14-2005, 11:55 AM

On thing about Tice and Moss they just say what is on there mind....

Durango53

01-14-2005, 11:58 AM

It is getting very suprising how many people are picking the Vikings....

Also before the game last week Tice changed up the way the team practices... And before the game he came out and said This team had a great freaking week of practice..

He came out today and said again this team has had a great week of practice again...

GO VIKINGS!!!!

rockin500

01-14-2005, 12:05 PM

On thing about Tice and Moss they just say what is on there mind....
yup. they dont have filters on their mouths.

i like it when moss does it because it drives the suits of the networks and the NFL on fire.

Durango53

01-14-2005, 12:08 PM

Ya you are right Ray and how about this....

Vikings owner Red McCombs has lit yet another fire under the "non-incident" involving Randy Moss -- requesting that FOX Sports broadcaster Joe Buck be taken off Sunday's telecast of the Vikings-Eagles game.

Thedatch

01-14-2005, 12:09 PM

Ya you are right Ray and how about this....

YES!!!!! good call! take him down!!

rockin500

01-14-2005, 12:10 PM

i wouldnt mind him being taken off the telecast just because he sucks. :cool:

anything that gives networks and certain announcers/commentators grief brings me joy.

Durango53

01-14-2005, 12:10 PM

Antoine Winfield was named Defensive Player of the Week for his performance vs. the Packers. Despite his credentials, it is the first time Winfield has won the honor – regular season or postseason.

GREAT PICK!!!!! Great game Winfield!!!! You showed what you mean to a Defense that is very very bad without you!!!

Thedatch

01-14-2005, 12:12 PM

GREAT PICK!!!!! Great game Winfield!!!! You showed what you mean to a Defense that is very very bad without you!!!

winfield totally stepped up last week, and he really deserves it...

by the way...i wonder who the AFC offensive player of the week is...lol

rockin500

01-14-2005, 12:13 PM

winfield was damned good last weekend and it was a well deserved award. makes the defense better.

Durango53

01-14-2005, 12:13 PM

Randy Moss was completely unrepentant and unapologetic Thursday as it concerned his $10,000 fine. Following practice, Moss made a point to let the reporter asking about the fine know that he was rich and that the fine didn't make a difference -- adding that the next time he does a celebration, it may include the shaking of another body part other than his backside.

Ok I feel the whole thing was a child like act but come on this is a dead horse let it freaking go... Packer fans moon Vikings players... Viking player fake moons Packer fans

Durango53

01-14-2005, 12:15 PM

Darrion Scott is expected to start in front of Kenechi Udeze, who some Vikings coaches believe has hit a wall after starting his entire rookie season.

I can see giving him some time off.

Hey TC what happened to Mixion?

Durango53

01-14-2005, 12:17 PM

Lost in all the hoopla about Peyton Manning's record-breaking year was those of Sunday's QBs -- Daunte Culpepper and Donovan McNabb. Culpepper fell one TD short of being just the fourth player to top 40 touchdowns in a season, while McNabb became the first in league history to throw more than 30 touchdowns (31) and have less than 10 interceptions (8).

If I had to vote for MVP I would put Manning down no question he had the best year ever for a QB.

But everyone is over looking Culpepper who I feel is the most complet QB out there... No one has better arm stregth... Only Vick can run better but he cant run as hard and he is no where as big as Culpepper who LB's are afraid of hitting at times and Culpepper can get it to his WR... My first pick for a QB in the NFL is Culpepper and it is to bad his great great season is getting overlooked...

Durango53

01-14-2005, 12:19 PM

Huh all I hear about is McNabb... How he is going to beat the Vikings this week. Funny it seems that last year they talked about how he was going to beat all these teams also... Why is it everyone gives credit to McNabb for how good the Eagles do..

Terrell Owens missed the final two-and-a-half games of the season, but still had more receptions that the next three Eagles wide receivers -- Todd Pinkston, Freddie Mitchell and Greg Lewis -- combined!

Dont you think it is time to give credit to the defense???

Timberwolf

01-14-2005, 06:47 PM

Durango: I agree about the Moss thing being blown way out of proportion. It's Friday and still people want to talk about it. Geez. As for Billy Joe McCombs wanting Joe Buck of the telecast for Sunday's game, that's assinine and pathetic. I hate Buck, but he shouldn't be off the telecast for stating his opinion.

rockin500

01-14-2005, 09:48 PM

Durango53

01-15-2005, 10:50 PM

Slam a lama ding dong

Thedatch

01-15-2005, 10:57 PM

Slam a lama ding dong

gotta admit, those ads are pretty funny...i also like the Leon one, where they are arguing about what side to stand on in the ad, because they have a best side of their face :laff: cracks me up everytime!

Durango53

01-15-2005, 11:00 PM

Moss, listed as probable for Sunday's divisional playoff game at Philadelphia, was held out of practice on Wednesday and Thursday to rest.

"He looked great," Vikings coach Mike Tice said. "He didn't have a hitch in his giddy-up, so that was good."

Big game Moss comes to play I wouldnt expect him to take anytime off of this one...

Durango53

01-15-2005, 11:02 PM

Running back Moe Williams (questionable with a sprained right ankle) hasn't practiced all week and will be a game-time decision, though Tice said he doesn't think the Vikings have to worry about him not playing a limited role unless he has a setback.

There is no question who is a leader on the offense even if he dont play that much you know you can always count on Moe and I think Culpepper is counting on him also this game...

Timberwolf

01-17-2005, 05:08 AM

After hours of reflecting, I have to say that this season was a success. I wish the Vikings would have finished strong and really earned that last playoff spot, but they made up for it by winning a playoff game in Green Bay.

Hopefully, these guys stay hungry and motivated throughout the offseason and when the games begin. Can't wait to see them this year.

Durango53

01-17-2005, 11:43 AM

Ok my season and game reflections right quick....

They have had a ok game. The O-line played ok... But I didnt like the play calling this game and all year... I thought they had some very bad playcalling all season long. They went from the number one team running to a bad running team... But also this is a team that got hurt very bad very early with some key players...

Moss dropped to many passes that he most of the time he pulls in... Culpepper started pressing and I saw a flash back of a few years ago when the only player he was looking for was Moss... Most of the time in the game he just looked for one guy and the defense just followed him all the way..

And Wiggens.... What a great freaking pick up this guy was.. But Culpepper hardly looked at him all game... And he was open most of the game also. I think the VIkings could have stopped the blitzing real fast if they would have started to hit Wiggens in the middle of the field in that void when the started to blitz.

But I would say this was a very disappointing season for the Vikings this year with the offense... Just because the run wasnt there... When they did run they won when they didnt they lost it. You have the deapest running back core in the NFL and they didnt use them. I also think Moss was more of a distraction than ever this year toward the end of the year...

TC I have heard some rumors of Moss to the Raiders any truth to that? As much as I dont like the guy as a guy and such he is a hell of a player on the field. And he has been hurt most of the year also.

How huge has Nat stepped up this year? Who knows with Moss being hurt this year might have helped the Vikings out more than we know... It forced Culpepper to look at other guys and get to know them and trust them...I was kind of disapointed in Robinson this year but he was hurt some also this year and has been better than any other WR the Vikings have brought in via FA.

And the Defense... How much has Winfield been to this team? A great signing and I feel one that got done that should have been the start of many. I felt there was many FA out there that could have made this team GREAT that didnt get done... But welcome to a team owned by Red... Who knows if he does sell he might have set this team up to be great with being cheap and having a fairly good team while being millions under the cap. But this defense is still hurting this team and should be the same thing as always... Drafting d players in the draft hoping to find the one that works...

But to many penaltys again. This team needs to cut them down but there was some very bad calls that added to the numbers also...

But the better team won and they played better and they got some huge breaks. The ball knocked out of the WR hands and goes flying into the other WR hands in the endzone. Games go that way sometimes and it was just to bad for the Vikings that the game was a playoff game...

But I dont know if I would call the season a good season. They started good but finished so very bad. Some lucky breaks got them in and the luck was with them for the rest of that week.

But I feel the Vikings learned something this year late... How to practice.. You could see that this team was a diffenet team the last 2 weeks so I hope Tice keeps that going what he was doing the past two weeks and does that all season...

But now the exciting off season and draft talk...

I dont know though if the Vikings will be active in the FA signing. As TC said with Red trying to sell the team he will not sign anyone so that he will make more money... I hope that he can sell quick and get some owners that will put some money in this team that it needs...

Durango53

01-17-2005, 12:10 PM

Ok I guess with Red not going to sign a FA we will have to talk draft....

I think this team MUST spend a high draft pick on a kicker... I think they must spend a 3rd round pick on a kicker that they can get so they can kick those 40+ yard FG... The kicking game of this team is a joke...

Also I have seen on a mock draft round 1 the Vikings going after Husker LB Rudd!!!!!!

Durango53

01-17-2005, 01:12 PM

Hey TC can you get a list of FA this year for the Vikings...

So far I am thinking Wiggins, Gus, Clayborn, Newman and Dixon. Anymore?

Durango53

01-17-2005, 01:16 PM

Some RFA are Brian Williams, Adam Haayer, Kelly Campbell

FA I have found Max Yates, Morten Andersen

Durango53

01-17-2005, 01:17 PM

Ok here is the whole list

Morten Andersen PK UFA
Chris Claiborne LB UFA
Bill Conaty C UFA
David Dixon OG UFA
Gus Frerotte QB UFA
Chris Hovan DT UFA
Keith Newman LB UFA
Jermaine Wiggins TE UFA
Adam Haayer OT RFA
Rhett Nelson CB RFA
Derek Ross CB RFA
Brian Russell FS RFA
Kelly Campbell WR RFA
Willie Offord SS RFA
Brian Williams CB RFA
Anthony Herrera OG ERFA
Shaun Hill QB ERFA
Ryan Hoag WR ERFA
Aaron Hosack WR ERFA
Brandon Newton OG ERFA
Butchie Wallace RB ERFA
Max Yates LB ERFA

>TC<

01-17-2005, 01:44 PM

Bigger than you think - Gus Ferotte is a FA - and he has said that he feels he owes it to himself to have his agent see what is out there for starting jobs. He did say that if no one wanted him as a starter, he would like to resign with MN

As far as the Vikings off-season:

On his show last night, Tice said that Randy Moss was not untouchable in trade talks. He said that every player would be evaluated. He also said that every off-season, a couple teams call to see if Randy is availabe.

He said that safety was a position that will need to be looked at closely for next season. He said the team needed more from those slots.

He also said the they need to bring in another good corner, a strong LB, and a defensive lineman who could make an impact.

He said that he really thought the offense was pretty well set if they get the players back from injury. He said the OL developed some nice depth this season, due to injuries.

Tice said that they will have to take a strong look at whether or not keeping all their running backs was in the best interest of the team. He said that trading one was certainly a possiblity.

He also said that he really didn't expect Scott Linehan to be back. He said he couldn't imagine why he would, when Tice and the rest of the staff are working on one year deals. He expects Linehan to get several multiyear offers from other teams. He said the bottom line is that management will have to step up to keep him.

I will try to check for a FA list.

TC

Durango53

01-17-2005, 01:44 PM

WOW Read this Viking fans!!!!

http://www.twincities.com/mld/twincities/sports/football/10664419.htm

Randy to the Cards!!!!!!!

Do you think that Denny would want Randy???

I think this could be a trade that would be great for the Vikings IF the cards go for it..

Moss and Bennett traded to the Cards could get some players along with a draft that would make this team a very good team... I think the Vikings can get by without Moss. Culpepper would have to hit the TE more and Nate would have to step up even more but I think he could. And who knows they might be able to get Bolen and one of those guys on D for Moss and Bennett.

Thoughts on trading Moss?

PissedPrincess

01-17-2005, 01:48 PM

Sorry for your loss guys.

Durango53

01-17-2005, 01:48 PM

I got that list TC.... ^

I dont know about letting Scott co now. I would love to see them bring in a coach that would do a good job but Red isnt going to put money into it... That is what scares me...

If he would put some money into it I think we could get a great O coach that would bring what this team needs and help Tice out...

But ya Tice knows what needs to be done and I think they will do all they can with the limits that Red puts on them...

Durango53

01-17-2005, 01:52 PM

Sorry for your loss guys.
Thanks PP good luck this week for your team...

But funny how the Red Sox and the Vikings WAS the same in alot of ways...

Now it is just the Vikings for the Red Sox won there big one....

But a year of *****ing again but I have a good feeling about this off season...
I dont know why who know Red sells Denny trades away half of his team for Moss (we get a pay back for that dumb Walker trade) but I have a good feeling... :pray:

>TC<

01-17-2005, 01:52 PM

I'd do the Arizona deal in a minute. But it would take adding one of their WR to the trade to make it work.

TC

Durango53

01-17-2005, 01:55 PM

You are feeling me Mark!!!

I was thinking the same thing... Add Bolen (sp) because I dont think Denny would get rid of Friz. But I would to. Get rid of Moss (who from the sounds of it the team is sick of him) and add three solid players...

>TC<

01-17-2005, 02:27 PM

The Tice press conference is on KFAN right now.

TC

Durango53

01-17-2005, 04:24 PM

Ah hell it looks like I missed it I was at lunch so what did he say?

Durango53

01-17-2005, 06:09 PM

I read the press confrence...

I would like to high light some things from it...

. Adam Goldberg was given the chance to play for us this year. Adam Goldberg played very solid football for us, if not spectacular, very solid football for us. He certainly has shown that he's going to have an opportunity next year to win a job somewhere, whether it's competing against Mike (Rosenthal) for the right tackle job or moving to one of those guard spots. Adam Goldberg was really a tremendous story for this football team this year, so he stands out to me as a guy.

I would love to see David Dixon come back to this team for one more year for he has been a solid guy in this system for so long and had a great year again this year.. But I think Adam does deserve to chance to start and it was great to see him have a good year. Some bumps in the road but had a great year for a first year guy!!!

PissedPrincess

01-17-2005, 06:34 PM

I would love to see you guys dump Randy. LOVE. I remember Terry Glenn the A-hole in 01. He was our best WR, but he was an ass. Belichick just sat him all year, and the team rallied.

Ditch the cancer, too many good guys on the Vikes. :thumbsup:

Durango53

01-17-2005, 06:55 PM

PP I think there are many thinking that way... But the thing I fear is that they wont get the players that would take a Moss trade... I am with Mark... If you can trade Moss and Bennett for Boldin and a D player for the Cards I to would do it so fast that Randys head would spin...

I love the Vikings but I also love the old way they played the great defense game...

But I fear that they just wont get the offer to trade Randy... I fear everyone is going to low ball them... :notme:

PissedPrincess

01-17-2005, 07:22 PM

Who cares if you get low-balled. Addition by subtraction my friend. :thumbsup:

LesPaul

01-17-2005, 07:32 PM

Nanner

01-17-2005, 07:40 PM

I would totally be up for trading Randy. Guy worked my last nerve this season. As you said, Shad, if the rest of the guys aren't even behind him anymore, because he's been such a donkey's butt, then get some solid defensive players. I love Michael Bennet, but he's getting up there, isn't he? Mewelde Moore, Ontario Smith, Nate on WR..... these guys have been stepping up all season. Add some D, we could really threaten next year!

And I still love Daunte. He's such a horse. You could see him stepping up yesterday, trying to pull it together, a couple of times doing it all himself. Give him some good solid guys who want to work, and he could really shine!

Obri

01-17-2005, 07:41 PM

Sorry for your loss guys.

Likewise. Very disappointing. :(

Durango53

01-17-2005, 07:55 PM

Thanks Dan I hope this is a good team next year...

And Nancy Bennett is a young guy.. This was only his 3 year in the NFL... So I think they could get a bit out of him in a trade like to the Phins!!!!

Nanner

01-17-2005, 08:01 PM

And Nancy Bennett is a young guy.. This was only his 3 year in the NFL... So I think they could get a bit out of him in a trade like to the Phins!!!!

Hmm. I wonder where I heard that? I think it was one of the announcers a couple of weeks ago...... I think something about him being the "older generation" of running backs on this team. :confused: Maybe that was it. He's not old, but he's been the longest with the team? :notme:

Timberwolf

01-17-2005, 10:09 PM

The jury is still out on Tice IMO. I think he did alright to stay next season. Next year, I do not want to see another collapse like I saw this year and I sure hope the coaching staff does a better utializing their defense and offense. The heat is on Ted Cottrell IMO.

As for offensive coordinator, I am worried that Paul Hackett will be the Vikings offensive coordinator. He may work for cheap considering no team will hire him again. If he runs the offense, Vikings will be doomed. I hope Tice can hire someone from within or something. I am not a big Linehan fan, but at this point, I rather see him stay. I am not sure if anyone is a better option and you know those rising QB coaches who is ready to be offensive coordinators may not work for cheap. I would love to see Jim Fassel as the offensive coordinator, but he is going to demand big bucks and Tice is not going to hire a vetearn head coach to undermine him.

Daunte desperately needs to cut down on the intereceptions. He is an interception waiting to happen every football game and I am tired of it. I think the interceptions are why Vikings fans seem to hate the guy. Daunte is a great QB, but again he needs to learn how to cut down on the INTs.

Penalties is something that has to cut down. Vikings lost too many games because of penatlies.

I am not sure if trading Randy is the way to go. Unless the Vikings get an offer that they can't refuse, you trade Randy. I still think he is an huge asset. For two bad weeks of his off-the-field problems, I am not going to say trade him.

Oh and I hope Billy Joe sells the team.

This season wasn't what Vikings fans expected as they had Super Bowl expectations, but this team had too many injuries and quite frankly, they were not in Philly's level or Atlanta's level. With their situation they were in, I thought the Vikings did the best they could. My only problem was the collapse again and how tight they were in the Washington game. That bothered me and I don't want to see it again next year.

LesPaul

01-17-2005, 10:17 PM

I still don't see what Moss did as a problem. If Joe Buck would not have treated it as a bigger deal than it was it never would have been blown out of proportion. Nothin like that to add to your hope for popularity though eh? "We apologize for that being on live TV." (while he was thinking: yes! something for me to b**ch about and get nationwide attention!)

Moss has come a long way and I for one am not about to blame all the Vikings problems on him. It was not his fault the fake FG was a disaster but the headlines make it seem that way. The dropped passes? Signs he had a bad game when the team couldn't afford it but thats where Robinson stepping up should have sufficed. Imagine Moss playing against the Vikes D...

Timberwolf

01-17-2005, 10:24 PM

Exactly, LesPaul. Let's not forget Randy had to leave the field because then it would be too many men on the field. I thought Randy did the best he could with the injuries he has had this year.

That article by Bob Sansevere about Moss to Arizona should not be taken seriously. Bob has been writing about how Moss should be traded for the last three years. I am not even sure if Denny wants to put up with Randy's antics again anyway. That article is nothing more than wishful thinking.

rockin500

01-17-2005, 10:51 PM

just look at the numbers Burleson put up this season, if he can keep from dropping passes he could easily be the #1 WR. sometimes numbers a person can put up doesnt matter to how they effect the team chemistry. is Moss the souring in the formula that gives this team a bipolar attitude? if so a trade would do wonders, if not you still have the same piss poor attitude minus the big play guy.
he's hardly been the only culprit over the years. have you ever thought it was due to lack of solid leadership who could b*tchslap moss?

where are the leaders on this team? they created the monster, so they can deal with it.

Nature abhors a vaccuum and when you have no leader, trouble comes in.

>TC<

01-17-2005, 11:47 PM

>TC<

01-17-2005, 11:50 PM

Some more from Tice's new conference.

He said that the team needed to run the ball more, without a doubt. And part two of that statement was, they need to pick a RB to carry the majority of that load. He said they would evaluate the RB's during mini-camps and training camp to come up with a starter.

TC

Timberwolf

01-18-2005, 12:09 AM

Great job breaking down what went on in Tice's press conference and on Joe Schmit's SportsWrap with Mike Tice, TC. Lot of good information that you showed here.

Randy is going to be coodled because Tice can't afford to lose him. Tice need Randy's back, but now you have to wonder if Tice has gotten tired of him. I know several veterans particularly Matt Birk and Daunte are tired of it. The only guy who had the cajones to stand up to Randy was Cris Carter and John Randle. As you can see, Randy was fine when Cris was there, but as Cris retired, Randy has become different. Randy has played hard this year. If he did not played hard, then I would be really bothered, but the point is that it was not the case.

I think Randy has been fine in the locker room. Unfortunately, he messed up there in Washington, but you know what. He is not the first and you know he won't be the last guy to leave the sidelines with two seconds left in frustration. Not to excuse Randy for doing that. He does have to grow up a little and stop putting himself in a situation where critics will be on him.

I am just not ready to dump the guy for walking out on them for frustration. I just hope Randy learned from that mistake. If he does it again, well then there has to be reprecussions on him.

As for who should be the running back, I think Onterrio Smith should be the starter heading to the season.

rockin500

01-18-2005, 12:20 AM

A large part of the problem with Moss is that he's been treated differently by the coaches and the management of this team. Another part is that the team purged all the vets who might have been able to keep him in line three years ago.

Matt Birk did get in Randy's face when he walked off the field against Washington, and we all thought that was a great thing, but Randy in later interviews said that he didn't even know what Matt had said because he just tuned him out. Short of beating the heck out of him, I don't think anything anybody says is going to change the way Randy thinks or plays.

Do I think this is all Moss's fault - no. Do I see this team getting any better because Moss is here - no. Do I think that the $38 million that Moss is owed could buy us several players who might contribute more to this team as a whole than Moss does - yes.

TC
See, the thing is, they need a leader who can put the fear of god into him. Matt Birk wouldnt be able to do that. plus its so late in the game that its going to be tough, but it can be done.

remember, moss learned from one of the ultimate prima donnas: cris carter. a veteran wide receiver who cared more about winning than stats coulda gotten him straight (say, a jerry rice type). that or a stern coach who could also put the fear of god into him. Have the vikings ever had either of those?

randy moss= dennis rodman lite. The only difference? dennis had MJ who could and would humiliate dennis and keep him in line. nobody crossed MJ. If the vikings had someone of that caliber on their team, i think this coulda been handled a few years ago.

of course, if they settled on one running back, that would leave room for more defenders. :cool:

>TC<

01-18-2005, 12:22 AM

Timberwolf

01-18-2005, 12:39 AM

TC: What do you think of the proposed deal that Miami offered to get Moss this past offseason? I read where Miami wanted to give up couple of defensive players and draft picks to get Moss. As for the Vikings defense, I think it's good enough at it is. It's a matter of Cottrell trying to get the most out of his unit. For instance, this kid, Udeze was a sackmaster at USC. For whatever reason, he did not do that this year.

Ray: I think Mike Tice could be at the boiling point where he will yell at Randy. We will see what transpires. I think Tice should yell at Randy. Tice has coddled him enough. At some point, Tice has to earn the respect of the rest of his players and for that to happen, he has to get on Randy for each trangession he makes. So Randy may not react well, but I am sure he will be shocked that someone has the guts to go yell at him.

Durango53

01-18-2005, 12:05 PM

I am not for dumping Randy, I am for hearing what teams have to offer. If they offer an all-pro caliber defensive player, another top end starter, (either a WR or another defensive player), plus a #1 draft pick or two, I'd have to listen. Teams that win the Super Bowl have strong defenses, period. Would I trade Moss for a #2 pick or an average player, no way.
TC
Exactly how I feel...

Also Timber Culpepper has cut down his INT's this year...

He had one of the best years ever for a QB... He had about 180 some pass attempts without an INT?
He had 11 INT's all season long Manning had 10 and Tom Brady had 14 and I dont here people saying those guys are a INT waiting to happen... Culpepper is one of the best if not the best QB in the NFL....

But your comments on Linehan is what I feel also. I am not a fan but I fear there is no one out there better that Red would pay and they would get into a revolving door like the Defense and I feel that is the biggest problem with the defense is 3 different guys in 3 years....

Durango53

01-18-2005, 12:20 PM

Ah hell screw it what is the number to Winter Park Mark....

I will throw my hat in for the O coach of the Vikings.... :D

Timberwolf

01-18-2005, 07:05 PM

Daunte has cut down on the INTs, but again that is still a problem in big games. It seems whenever I watch him play on TV, he throws a pick. I saw that this year against the Giants a lot. I saw it in the Christmas Eve game against the Packers and again on Sunday. I have a friend who is a huge Daunte critic and he always tells me about those INTs. He had a good year though as you said.

At least, Daunte is not thinking too much when he has to throw or when he takes a long time to throw.

Durango53

01-18-2005, 07:11 PM

Let him be a critic all he wants... When it comes down to it name one QB like Culpepper in the NFL....

Vick dont have the arm and can get it to the WR that Culpepper can and Manning cant run like Culpepper... Also there is no QB that is the size of Culpepper that can move like him. And add in the fact that he was one of the top two QB's this year it seems that your friend would want him on his team.. ;)

Timberwolf

01-19-2005, 12:15 AM

It's not just this guy I know. It seems people in the Twin Cities always have something negative to say about Daunte if you ever listen to the shows on KFAN or the KFAN Message Board. Daunte has always been a lightning rod of criticism for some fans. It was so bad last year that Daunte got a death threat from some losers which propel Patrick Reusse to accuse Vikings fans of being a racist for not embracing Daunte.

Timberwolf

01-19-2005, 02:39 AM

http://www.kstp.com/article/stories/S5677.html?cat=1

Could the Vikings finally be sold? Reports are that Billy Joe is about to sell the team to this guy, Reggie Fowler. I hope the sale is done. I can't take one more year of Billy Joe. Of course knowing Billy Joe, the sale will be done till he reneges on his agreement.

I really hope this is true. I am tired of speculations about the team being sold for the last three years.

Durango53

01-19-2005, 01:28 PM

If this is true they need to buy the Vikings right away... If they wait and drag there feet it could hurt this team VERY much with FA's and getting coachs also...

And yes Timber I did hear all those negative things people was saying but I chocked it up to dumb people... People who might watch football but think the game is won by the QB and just watch the so called skilled players... The reason Daunte was having bad years those few years was because of the offenve line.... He was getting the ball and then running for his life. You cant do anything about that..

That reminds me of a thing Res and I had two years ago at the start of the season... He said that Culpepper didnt belong in the top points getters in football.... We went around and around on that... I said to watch out for him he is going to have a MVP year because the Vikings have a great line again... He said no way and Culpepper had a great year.... It is all about the O baby!!!! The O-line..... Those big uglys dont get there due but they will get there due here... :D

Durango53

01-19-2005, 01:35 PM

"Goodbye, Minnesota,"
Hovan said over his shoulder to inquiring reporters as he pushed open the double doors leading from the locker room to the players' parking lot.

The Vikings aren't interested in re-signing Hovan. And, obviously, Hovan is fine with that.

To bad it is ending like this... I like Hovan but man you have had two years that you have done nothing... And so there is no one to blame but you...

Durango53

01-19-2005, 02:16 PM

Vikings coach Mike Tice said he wants to decide on one running back to feature next season. "Whether that's Mewelde Moore, Onterrio Smith or Michael Bennett, I think that has to [be decided] by the time we leave Mankato, if not sooner," Tice said. Tice also said he wants a stronger commitment to the run next season. Offensive coordinator Scott Linehan defended this year's 18th-ranked running attack, citing tight end Jim Kleinsasser's knee injury, the lack of a consistent feature back and having to come from behind in too many games.

Must be done Tice....

I still think you could get one hell of a package for Bennett and Moss but even though Bennett has been hurt some over the past two years I would hate to see him go because I think he is one of the best running RB's out there...

Durango53

01-19-2005, 02:17 PM

Defensive end Kenechi Udeze will have his right shoulder examined further this week. He might have surgery to repair a torn rotator cuff. It's the same injury that caused Udeze to fall from a top-10 projection in last year's draft to the Vikings at the 20th pick. Udeze started 15 of 18 games this season and had 47 tackles and five sacks while "basically playing with 1 ½ arms," Tice said.

Udeze you had a great first year..... Playing hurt but faded a bit in the end but that is what happens to most rookies.... Get fixed up and come back and make this a strong line!!!! Help old Kevin out!! :thumbsup:

Durango53

01-19-2005, 02:19 PM

The Vikings probably will move veteran defensive back Ken Irvin from cornerback to free safety. Irvin, who suffered a ruptured Achilles' tendon in warmups before the season opener, will be 33 and in his 11th season in 2005. He could serve as an extra defensive back in the nickel defense or compete for the starting job. Current starter Brian Russell is a free agent this offseason.
For any other team in the NFL I would see them letting Russell go.. But I think the Vikings can sign Russell cheap and I think they will.. But that is just me but I think moving Irvin to FS could be a good move to help with the covering of WR in the back field..

Durango53

01-19-2005, 02:21 PM

Backup quarterback Gus Frerotte, who is a free agent this offseason, hasn't ruled out returning for a third season as Culpepper's backup, but he said he believes he can win a starting job elsewhere at age 34 next season. "I wouldn't say there was stellar quarterback play throughout the NFL this season," Frerotte said. "I'm not going to run all over the place for you, but if a team needs a strong-armed quarterback who can stand in the pocket and knows where to throw the ball, I can do that."

Gus I wish you luck!!!! You have been a great backup your time in MN!!! If you go I hope you get to start!!! I wish you luck but I hope you resign with MN I feel you can still help Culpepper out a ton and when you did play you just stood back there and let it rip... Just what this offense should do...

Durango53

01-19-2005, 02:22 PM

The Vikings have targeted a minicamp in mid-May for the return of injured players Irvin, Kleinsasser and right tackle Mike Rosenthal

Hey TC what is your feel on the odd man out on this line? Mike, David or even Chris? The way Tice was talking it sounded like he was going to give Goldberg a hell of a chance to get er done.... :notme:

Durango53

01-19-2005, 02:31 PM

Well it looks like Scott Linehan is out the door.....

Vikings coach Mike Tice appeared resigned to Linehan's departure.
Linehan reportedly is Saban's top choice for offensive coordinator, but as of Tuesday evening no contract agreement had been reached.

Tice, however, gave both Saban and Del Rio permission to interview Linehan, and it appeared certain Linehan has spent his last workday at Winter Park.

"It's unfortunate that we can't make this work," Tice said Tuesday. On Monday, Tice said losing Linehan would be "a huge step backwards." Quarterback Daunte Culpepper, said to be crushed by Tuesday's events, said Monday that it would be "a huge mistake" for the Vikings to allow Linehan to leave.

It appears unlikely that Tice would allow either Loney or Hanson, both of whom also are signed through 2005, to leave.

Loney, in fact, will become a candidate for offensive coordinator or an assistant head coach position assuming Linehan leaves. Loney was an offensive coordinator for seven years at Iowa State and the University of Minnesota before joining the Vikings in 2002.

Another option to replace Linehan could be new Duke offensive coordinator Bill O'Brien, the runner-up for the position when Tice hired Linehan in 2002. O'Brien, however, accepted the Duke job only 12 days ago and is unlikely to leave.

Tice will have difficulty recruiting many candidates for the position with his own contract set to expire after the 2005 season. For that reason, it is possible the Vikings will patch together an offensive staff by making Loney an assistant head coach and hiring a young quarterbacks coach. In that scenario, Tice would play a significant role in game-planning and perhaps also call the plays.

Tice, meanwhile, is spending this week evaluating the entire coaching staff for a meeting with McCombs that initially was scheduled for Thursday in San Antonio but was postponed Tuesday.

Durango53

01-19-2005, 02:33 PM

In the aftermath of Sunday's season-ending playoff loss at Philadelphia, Tice told the team his entire defensive coaching staff would return for the 2005 season. He said nothing about special teams, however, and Tillman's status remained uncertain after a shaky two seasons in his job.

Rumors have circulated about former special teams star Chris Walsh, a coaching intern during the second half of the 2004 season, taking over for Tillman. Walsh, however, could soon receive an offer from Baltimore coach Brian Billick to be a full-time assistant coach. Another issue is that Tillman is under contract for 2005, meaning the Vikings would have to pay him if he is fired and does not get a job with another team.

I would love to see Walsh back!!!! :clap:

But can he be a good coach???? :notme:

And I can see that Tice about HAS to bring back the D staff.. For one is there one better out there that will work for cheaper? And will any others want to come in not knowing what the future holds... :notme:

Durango53

01-19-2005, 07:27 PM

Chris Claiborne had a game-high eight tackles and a pass defensed in what might have been his last game as a Viking. Claiborne is a free agent this offseason. He played progressively better during the second half of the season as his calf injury healed and grew stronger. "It's up to the Vikings what they want to do," Claiborne said.

I would like to see Claiborne back.... The Vikings have the money and I heard that he wants to play MLB also... Henderson I feel has the tools to be a good MLB in this league and this year being his first starting brought one thing this team needed and that was speed to the LB part of the field. But you saw his inexpernece with him running himself out of plays sometimes and being out of postion... I would like to bring Chris back to push Henderson and get a good LB in the draft like Rudd from the Huskers....

Timberwolf

01-20-2005, 04:54 AM

Well Scott Linehan is now with Nick Saban in Miami. I understood his reasons to why he wanted to leave. He wanted to get paid more and he did not want to work for a one-year contract. Plus teams were inquiring about his service. He did what's best for him and his family. I just hope Vikings don't lose a lot more assistant coaches.

I am not sad that he left. I think it was for the best. He did a good job, but I wasn't crazy about his obession with passing the ball and neglecting ther run. He just did not do it for me on offense. Good riddance I say. I just hope Paul Hackett does not run the Vikings offense which I fear the most.

No suprise that Chris Hovan left. He never was the same when he opened his mouth about Brett Farve last year.

Claiborne coming back is a must. He had a solid season.

I bet Gus comes back next year.

Durango53

01-20-2005, 07:32 PM

Minnesota Vikings: The Vikes moved quickly to find a replacement for Scott Linehan, promoting Steve Loney to offensive coordinator Thursday.

The Vikings' offensive line coach since 2002, Loney takes over an offense that ranked fourth overall this past season. Minnesota led the league in total offense in Loney's first season running the line.

"We are happy to be able to keep some continuity on our offensive staff by promoting Steve Loney," Vikings coach Mike Tice said in a statement. "He has proven himself during his coaching career and has been key to our success here during the previous three seasons."

"He has proven himself during his coaching career and has been key to our success here during the previous three seasons," Vikings coach Mike Tice said of Loney, who is 52.

Loney has been an offensive coordinator in Minnesota before -- at the University of Minnesota in 1998-99. He also was OC at Iowa State, his alma mater, from 1995 to 1997 and 2000 to 2001.

I LOVE THE MOVE!!!!!

Get a guy in there that loves that big bad O-line and he knows they love to run block and he should know that the team that runs more should win the game!!!
I think this is the best move for a team that is in limbo land and even if they wasnt I love this move... Tice wants to run so they get the O-Line coach that should want to run also... Smash mouth football!!!!

Durango53

01-21-2005, 11:16 AM

Tice will decide who will call plays once his offensive coaching staff is in place. He plans to take at least a week to consider what other moves he'll make, but he will need a quarterbacks coach. Quarterback Daunte Culpepper's first quarterbacks coach, Alex Wood, is available after being fired as offensive coordinator of the Arizona Cardinals this month.

With the departure of Linehan, the Vikings' offense likely will emphasize the run more next season.

MORE RUN!!!!!!! :clap: :clap: :thumbsup:

Think that would be a great move to bring in the guy that got Culpepper started out and someone he knows also!!!

Durango53

01-21-2005, 11:21 AM

This idea for a $600 million, 70,000-seat Vikings stadium, possibly with a retractable roof, is one of many ideas being floated. The Vikings, Gophers and Twins are all pining for new arenas. But the issue of how they are funded, and who would provide the funding, has been a matter of intense debate for years.
http://www.addictsports.com/baseball/attachment.php?attachmentid=2392&stc=1

WOW that would be great for the Vikings to get this!!! :banana:

But they must sell first... :(

BPBlueSox

01-21-2005, 12:54 PM

NO ROOF!!!!!!

Durango53

01-21-2005, 01:04 PM

It is a closable one....

But I wish they didnt have one!!!!!

Something about football outside in MN!!!!

Durango53

01-24-2005, 12:38 PM

A Vikings source has told ESPN's Chris Mortensen that there's a 60-40 chance the team will deal the controversial receiver in the offseason if it can find suitors willing to pay a handsome price.

The Ravens are a possibility. Baltimore made an aborted play for Terrell Owens last offseason and coach Brian Billick used Moss' sensational season in 1998 when he caught 17 touchdown passes to propel himself to the Ravens job.

Suggs and a first rounder?!?!?!?

Moss would fit in great with this team!!!! And I think there are guys on this team that the Vikings could get that would fit in great and carry them over the hump...

Also it said that Red hopes to sell the team by Super Bowl!!!

PissedPrincess

01-24-2005, 12:40 PM

DD, I'm most excited for you. New owner, dump Moss, and the Vikes will rock! :thumbsup:

Durango53

01-24-2005, 12:54 PM

I hope they get a new owner... I think that will change the whole make up of this team right away... And as for Moss I still am up in the air on that... He might not be the best teammate but he is a hell of a player who changes the way the game is played... But this is a offense that can still put up great numbers without him so if they could trade him to make a great defense then I would make the move to but just trade him for nothing then I couldnt.. Even though I dont like him that much he is a hell of a player....

But I hope the Vikings do get a new owner that will bring some excitement in this team that hasnt been here for some time...

Thanks PP I hope the Vikes will rock sometime!!!

Thedatch

01-24-2005, 03:53 PM

Suggs and a first rounder?!?!?!?

Moss would fit in great with this team!!!! And I think there are guys on this team that the Vikings could get that would fit in great and carry them over the hump...

Also it said that Red hopes to sell the team by Super Bowl!!!

god...moss with the ravens? that team will have the worst attitude ever, along with ray lewis...bleh!

Durango53

01-24-2005, 05:00 PM

The Vikings were assuming the loss of their second offensive coach Friday, believing it was a near certainty receivers coach Charlie Baggett would join the Miami Dolphins staff as early as this weekend.

>TC<

01-24-2005, 05:53 PM

Rumors had Glen Taylor flying down to San Antonio this past weekend for a meet with Red, but no one has been able to confirm that a meeting took place. As of now, both camps are denying it was ever planned.

TC

Durango53

01-24-2005, 06:06 PM

I read that Mark but I also read that it could be like the old Tom Clancy deal...

Everything was a go and ready but the Money.... :(

That is some of what I have heard that he didnt have the money but that was a couple of weeks ago and it could have been a ploy to try to get Red to knock off a few pennies.... :notme:

>TC<

01-24-2005, 06:22 PM

Taylor has all the money he needs - It's Fowler who looks like a "Clancy". Red himself said that he really doesn' believe that Fowler can do the deal.

TC

Durango53

01-24-2005, 06:26 PM

Oh my bad I got my money mixed up :D

Ok I got you now!!!! Man that would be cool if Taylor gets the team... I think he wuold want to put a winner on the field and this team is very close to doing that I feel. They just need a owner to put some money in it...

What is your feel on Tice and Moss you think if Taylor does buy the team>

Timberwolf

01-25-2005, 05:06 AM

It's Fowler who looks like a "Clancy".

Forget Clancy. Fowler is like Donald Watkins. Remember how Watkins was going to save baseball in Minnesota. :evillol

Durango53

01-25-2005, 01:17 PM

I would like to see Fowler get the Vikings out of everyone though I think...

A Phoenix building entrepreneur, Fowler played linebacker at the University of Wyoming and said he had a brief history with the Cincinnati Bengals and with the Arizona Wranglers of the U.S. Football League. He still appears in good enough condition to play. He is soft-spoken and said he is very private.

Durango53

01-25-2005, 05:02 PM

Here is what I hate....

In an effort to support victims in his native country of Denmark, Minnesota Vikings kicker Morten Andersen quietly raised over $20,000 to support Danish victims of the tsunami.

A friend from Denmark contacted Andersen about trying to raise money for the victims. Andersen joined the cause and purchased his game-worn jersey and signed it for donation. He also signed his game kicking shoe and received game-worn jerseys from Vikings quarterback Daunte Culpepper and wide receiver Randy Moss. Culpepper and Moss both signed their jerseys for Andersen to add to his items for donation.

I get mad at Moss and think he is a butthole all over again and then I see him give two footballs to a kid in a wheel chair front row at a Vikings game and you can just see this kid and the joy in his face... Then you hear how much he gives to cherity and such and now this just makes it tough to dislike the guy!!!

Funny how he can be a first class guy one time and a first class butthole the next... :notme:

Durango53

01-26-2005, 02:05 PM

One player is paying particularly close attention to the trade rumors involving Randy Moss and the Baltimore Ravens.

Ravens cornerback Deion Sanders seemed to suggest to NFL on FOX's James Brown that he'd be more excited about returning to the Ravens if they landed the talented, but troubled, wideout.
"First of all, that would really encourage me to play, first and foremost," Sanders told Brown while appearing on his Sporting News radio show.

Sanders went on to suggest that he and Ravens linebacker Ray Lewis would be able to provide a little guidance for the occasionally wayward Moss, who has been dogged by controversy throughout his career.

Ok Deion if Matt Birk could stand in Moss's face and tell him he is going to kick his butt if he does anything like that again and Moss blows it off you think that Ray Lewis could do anything?!?!?!?

Durango53

01-26-2005, 02:16 PM

The Ravens would be interested in WR Randy Moss if the Vikings were open to trading him, according to the Baltimore Sun. The latest report out of Minnesota is that the Vikings want to retain Moss.

I would go for a Suggs, a first rounder and throw in a WR or a CB for the hell of it... :notme:

But nothing less...

>TC<

01-26-2005, 03:15 PM

Great, just great.

Our good buddy Red has decided to raise the asking price of the Vikings to $650 million, now that he has someone who is anxious to buy. This comes from a source within the team.

People close to the negociations offered conflicting views about what type of "exclusivity", if any, McCombs has granted Reggie Fowler to make an offer for the team. It does appear that McCombs is giving Fowler time to go back to his partners to put together a proposal before the Vikings owner returns his attention to Glen Taylor.

TC

>TC<

01-26-2005, 03:18 PM

All team functions have ground to a stop, pending a sale. Tice is going through the motions of interviewing QB coaches but has no authorization to hire anyone. Player evaluations, contract negociations, etc. are all on hold.

TC

>TC<

01-26-2005, 03:24 PM

From Shooter: If Reggie Fowler were able to buy the Vikings, plans are for former Arizona State and New York Giants WR John Mistler to run the team. Mistler is a broadcast analyst for the NFL Arizona Cardinals.

TC

Durango53

01-26-2005, 05:51 PM

You have got to be kidding!!!!!!

RED I HOPE YOU CHOKE ON ONE OF YOUR OLD USED CARS!!!!!!!!

What a piece of dog dung!!!!! I think we need to get Pop to go over to Reds house and ruff him up some!!!

This guy is a joke... He is screwing a team over that is close to being a good team some of the best fans in the world and he is just pooping on them!!!!!

Timberwolf

01-27-2005, 04:14 AM

Billy Joe McCombs (Red's real name) is a jacka$$. God I hate the guy as a owner and as a human being. I really hate him with a passion. Now he wants to ante up the sale from 600 million to 650 million. That goes to show you what a piece of shiat he is. He put 600 million with the idea that no one would match it. Now that Reggie is ready to give that money, he antes up. That's so classless. It's bad enough that he has no interest in his football team which is why he wants to sell. Now he wants to screw the fans by anting up his bid. Just sell the team. Red is lucky that Reggie is ready to fork up 600 million. No one in his or her right mind would do that. If Red thinks Taylor will try to ante up the bid, he is kidding himself.

Red has to sell the team and just go away. If you ask me, Red is doing this just for attention purpose and for seeing his name on the paper and etc. I am tired of it. Red is not helping his team or his fanbase by that way. This act just shows you what a classless jackass Red is.

This type of stuff is done by a psychotic person.

>TC<

01-27-2005, 02:34 PM

Todays news: Red McCombs issues a short, terse, statement that says everything that has been reported in the media in the last two days is a lie.

Glen Taylor then rebuts McCombs by confirming that both he and
Reggie Fowler had meetings with Red over the weekend. He also said it was his understanding that Fowler made an offer and was heading back to talk to his partners.

Red's "bobo" Gary Woods says, all the normal Vikings operations are going ahead as normal. **Except that Mike Tice's season end meeting with Red has been moved back - and of course that means that Mike can't hire any new assistants until the meeting with Red is done - and oh, by the way, the Vikings fiscal year doesn't end until the end of next month, so we won't be doing any FA offers, player contracts, etc. until the new year is under way (but that's normal)

Who's the liar, Red???

TC

Durango53

01-27-2005, 03:50 PM

Man thanks for wrecking this team Red.... I hope a longhorn sticks a horn up your butt!!!!

This might backfire on Red but then again it is the Vikings and fans that are going to lose which ever way it falls.....

LesPaul

01-29-2005, 12:34 AM

I just came across this in an article talking about Freddie Mitchell opening his mouth. He said this after the Divisional Playoff game against the Vikes:

"I'm a special player," Mitchell said after the win against Minnesota. "I want to thank my hands for being so great."

How can the Eagles and their fans stomach this guy AND T.O.???

Durango53

01-29-2005, 01:55 PM

I heard him say that Ryan but I took it like he was joking.... Everyone was laughing at him or with him being the case when he was saying that. I didnt take it as anything but joking around when I heard it..

KingDave

01-30-2005, 12:20 AM

Did any of you see Freddie Mitchell's little section on ESPN? It was a good laugh. He was wearing oven mitts for basically the whole interview and making remarks about how good he is. He's a funny guy. He said something referring to his deep catch against the Falcons like: "It was actually a 7-move route. I was also open on the 5th and 6th moves. I guess Donovan was looking somewhere else. I can't imagine why."

LesPaul

02-01-2005, 01:55 AM

:king: ya one of those things that comes across different in a write up than it would seeing it

Durango53

02-01-2005, 12:19 PM

The Vikings haven't invited former Gophers wrestler Brock Lesnar for a return tryout as a defensive lineman. But Steven Neal, who will start as an offensive lineman for the New England Patriots in Super Bowl XXXIX on Sunday, wrestled at Cal State Bakersfield and, like Lesnar, never played college football. Neal defeated Lesnar in the 1999 NCAA heavyweight wresting finals.

I think the Vikings need to get Brock sent over the NFL Europe and give it a go. But that is if he is still wanting to play....

Durango53

02-01-2005, 12:20 PM

The Vikings allocated seven players to NFL Europe for the 2005 season.

The players are tight end T.J. Cottrell, punter Travis Dorsch, quarterback Jason Fife, former Gophers receiver Aaron Hosack, kicker Dan Orner, and offensive linemen Brandon Newton and Shannon Snell.

Cottrell is the son of defensive coordinator Ted Cottrell.

Newton, Snell and Hosack spent a portion of the season on the Vikings' practice squad. Orner, Dorsch and Cottrell were at training camp last year.

The 2005 NFL Europe season starts April 2.

I wish they would just draft a kicker high in the draft. I feel it would be worth it for this team where old kickers have killed this team in many games...

Durango53

02-01-2005, 12:32 PM

The Randy Moss you dont see or hear about.....

There's someone at Winter Park who really doesn't enjoy this Randy Moss trade-bait talk: Brad Madson, community relations guy.

"I would miss him, and so would a lot of economically and physically challenged kids," Madson said. "Randy and Matt Birk did the most community service on the team this year."

But I heard Moss tell ESPN that he wasn't listening to what Birk was saying about the receiver's two-second early exit from the Washington game.

"I saw it, too, but the day after we lost and everybody was saying their goodbyes, Randy was signing a jersey for Matt Birk's foundation," Madson said. "So it looked to me like they were getting along."

While many others find Moss so annoying that some fool in Madison, Wis., put up a billboard that said, "Zero Rings for Randy Moss -- PRICELESS," and out on the Web there's a fake ad for Charmin Ultra doing what he was doing near that Green Bay goal post, Madson has a shockingly different take on Randy.

"He makes my job easy because he comes up with the ideas to help kids. Whether it's reading at pizza parties, giving away bikes or hosting a Christmas party with Matt and coach [Mike] Tice for 400 needy folks on the Monday before we played the Packers on Christmas Eve, Randy has been there."

Madson loves the thank-you letters they get from kids. "They say, I like to read more now. Thanks for coming to our school. And then in about a third of them they write, 'Who was the white dude with you?'

"I'm proud to stand by Randy and consider him a good friend."

In another defense of Moss, Sam Neumann of Chisago City, Minn., told Sporting News: "When Randy Moss 'moons' fans, we hear about it for weeks. But when he gives touchdown balls to handicapped children, we don't hear a peep. Funny how that works."

Durango53

02-01-2005, 12:38 PM

Joe Juranitch could have used Ragnar's battle ax when the Vikings lost in Philly.

The Vikings mascot was treated to an all-expenses-paid trip by Philadelphia socialite Harry Jay Katz after he read that Juranitch, a public school dean during the week, doubted he would make the trip because he had to pay his own way. Way to save money, Red.

The two had a great time together -- despite some scary treatment from rowdy Eagles fans. Everywhere Juranitch went in his Vikings jacket, obscene words were hurled at him, even in the men's room.

Katz said he waited outside the stadium restroom until "I heard some Eagles fans saying disparaging remarks. ... I'm a big guy also, 6-3, and I figured I better get in there. It was Joe's time to step up to urinate and there was this one drunken Eagles fan getting in Joe's face. So I stood behind Joe while he was urinating to protect him. Who knows what a bunch of drunken stupid people can do?"

Said Juranitch: "You know what? I don't get scared often. The worst feeling in the world is knowing you have no chance, and I knew I had no chance there. I thought it was the most disgusting display that a human being could show another human being."

Katz impressed Juranitch by blowing smoke in the face of one hostile fan. Juranitch has made a promise to Katz: " 'We shall fly you out to Minnesota and let you see what real fans act like.' He can pick the game he wants to go to. I would hope our fans would never treat another human being like the Philly Eagles did to us. Everybody knows about it in the league, and it won't be addressed -- and why?"

It's highly possible that the New England Patriots will serve those Eagles fans a nice tall mug of SHUT UP come Sunday.

Nice to see there are some class fans in Philly land!!!! A classless act by a owner and a CLASS act by a Eagles fan to fly the Vikings guy out!!! I hope he does get that trip out to MN and see a Vikings game...

Durango53

02-01-2005, 01:01 PM

TE Jim Kleinsasser and RT Mike Rosenthal, who missed a combined 29 games last season because of injuries, are expected to be healthy in time for training camp but might not participate in all of the team's offseason workouts. Kleinsasser is recovering from a torn anterior cruciate ligament in his right knee. Rosenthal fractured his right foot and needed surgery to repair it. The team's medical staff has targeted a mid-May return to football activities for both players. If all goes well, both will open training camp in the starting lineup.

I dont think Rosenthal was miss that much as Goldberg got in the lineup and got the reps. He became a slold guy on that line and can only get better and show why he was one of the best linemen ever for the Praire Gold of Wyoming...

Now Jim Kleinsasser was a huge lose for this team. I think it threw the team out of whak for some time in the middle of the season when teams started to blitz heavy and the team stopped running. Shame of the coachs for not adjusting by running more but also at that time many guys on the line was hurt or not playing up to par also...

Durango53

02-01-2005, 01:04 PM

There is strong desire within the organization to settle on a starting running back in time for training camp, and discussions have begun about how best to address it. RBs Michael Bennett, Onterrio Smith and Mewelde Moore are all candidates for the job, and it is likely several teams will make trade offers for Bennett prior to the draft. The most likely scenario, however, is for all three to enter training camp with the team.

The more I think about this the more I think I would like Smith traded....

Bennett just looked damm good those last few games when he got some reps and got going... Yes he has been hurt some but that would be why Moore would be keep... And then you always have Moe to hammer if you need that also...

Durango53

02-01-2005, 01:06 PM

The team is focused on upgrading its defensive personnel this offseason, and rightfully so. But it should also take special care to settle its placekicking situation once and for all. In two of the past three seasons, the team has jettisoned a young kicker in September to sign a reliable but limited veteran. The moves have forced it to carry a kickoff specialist and essentially abandon field goal attempts beyond 47 yards. While there is peace of mind factor in using a veteran kicker, it might be time to find a younger, reliable all-around kicker to increase flexibility on the roster and during games.

I think this is going to be my harping point this offseason... DRAFT A KICKER HIGH IN THE DRAFT!!!! Go third round or even second if you have to but GET ONE so you dont have to keep signing guy that cant kick over 35 yards!!!!

shnuskis

02-01-2005, 02:03 PM

The more I think about this the more I think I would like Smith traded....

Bennett just looked damm good those last few games when he got some reps and got going... Yes he has been hurt some but that would be why Moore would be keep... And then you always have Moe to hammer if you need that also...

I think you are on the right track. I have been saying that all year to my wife. Smith may be the best of the three and can possibly get more for him. Plus he is one step away from a one year susspension. Bennett is injury prone and most everyone here in MN seems to hate on him for it. But Smith is currently beloved and was also injury prone his whole carrier.

Bennett and Smith are different style backs though so it is more important for the coaching staff to give there running game an identity and choose the back that will fit it. Do they want to spread the field and create open space for Bennett or pound it more with Smith.

Durango53

02-01-2005, 02:12 PM

The pound part of what you said is why I think they should keep Bennett.

Bennett I think is the fastest guy in the NFL... (a world class sprinter in college also) who once he is in the open field can run by everyone... I missed the screen plays to him while the WR was running downfield this year...

But back to the pounding... They have one of the best RB in the league for blocking and pounding with Moe... And Moore I think can lay a lick on someone also so I am with you on thinking that Smith should be the one traded...

KingDave

02-01-2005, 08:13 PM

If I were in charge of personnel there I would keep Michael Bennett asa starter and either Williams or Moore, probably big Moe. Smith could be used to get a 2nd or 3rd round pick from a team like Arizona or maybe Tennessee.

MainEventMT

02-01-2005, 09:07 PM

The Vikes should sign a new running back. I would not start Bennet cause he is too often injured. They need a durable back who can recieve and dish out punishment and they do not have that in any of their backs. They should try to pursue Rudi Johnson if the Bengals can not resign him.

Durango53

02-01-2005, 11:22 PM

Dude have you seen any Vikings games this year?!?!?!?

The last player the Vikings need to sign is a RB... They need a WR more than they need a RB.... To get Rudy would be a waist of money that Red dont let go to waist anyway... Two years ago they was the best running team in the NFL and they will be again this year too with the new O-Cord they got... I dont know any RB that can be more punishing that Moe Williams and there is no RB better picking up a blitz than Moe he can catch out of the back field also which makes him a great 3 down back. With there third string back coming in this year and had about 3 or 4 games with over a 100 yards a RB is the last thing the Vikings need to sign.

I would start Bennett because he is a game breaker. Getting hurt is part of the game. One of the best RB's in the league had that rep to with Robert Smith but the Vikings didnt give up on him and he gave them a couple of good years then he quit and add that in with the Vikings losing there O-line was the reason that they had there tail spin. Now they got back there line and they got the deepest RB core in the NFL... No reason to sign one FA when they got guys not suiting up that could be good back ups for any team...

Durango53

02-04-2005, 07:23 PM

NFL Commissioner Paul Tagliabue acknowledged Friday that NFL officials have been talking with Vikings owner Red McCombs and interested buyers.

Durango53

02-07-2005, 11:26 AM

Tice has decided to give offensive coordinator Steve Loney the first crack at calling plays in 2005. There had been some uncertainty about the role because Loney will also double as the offensive line coach, which means he will be on the sideline as opposed to the coach's booth during games. But if Loney feels comfortable doing the dual task during the preseason, the Vikings will stick with that plan. Other possibilities for play-calling duties include the as-yet unhired quarterbacks coach and Tice.

Love this!!!! Give the guy that coached the O-line the calls and you will see that smash mouth O-line that came out and nailed people two years ago and gave that team a great start and the best running team of that year!!! Stick with the run all year like they didnt do and this is a good team... :thumbsup:

Durango53

02-07-2005, 11:29 AM

And talking of the O-Line :thumbsup:

The team has made an early and important personnel decision. Coach Mike Tice has moved LG Chris Liwienski to RG to replace David Dixon, who at 35 will either retire or return as a backup at both guard positions. Dixon started 2004 strong but wore down at the end of the season, and Tice believes Liwienski will have no trouble making the shift to the right side. Liwienski played right tackle in 2001 and is the team's best pure drive-blocker. Replacing Liwienski, at least for mini-camps, will be OL Adam Goldberg, who finished the season as a surprisingly solid RT. But with starting RT Mike Rosenthal returning from a fractured foot, Goldberg needed a new position. Goldberg's status could change depending on the progression of the preseason. He will compete with second-year player Anthony Herrera for the starting job, and it is also possible the team will draft an OL. . . .

I love you David!!! You are a beast and part of the best line I have ever heard on football on TV.... (They just couldnt handle the big Dix!!!)
And I hate to see you become a backup but as you get older you wear down. If a guy gets hurt we know that there is a All-Pro stepping up to take his spot now. I hope it works out like the Bus in Pit with David here.

But I am happy as heck for Adam... It seems they trust him so much to let him protect Culpeppers blind side and give a hand to Brian if needed!!!! WAY TO GO WYOMING COWBOY ADAM!!!! :clap: :thumbsup:

LesPaul

02-07-2005, 03:38 PM

hey guys, lookin for that something special for your gal on valentines? i thought why not add a vikings theme? like these :naughty:
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Durango53

02-08-2005, 11:25 AM

Despite emphatic denials from the Vikings, receiver Randy Moss is expected to be traded by April's NFL draft.

And don't think there isn't at least one prominent Vikings player who would welcome a Moss departure.

I think there are a few players that would love to see Moss go. But I also dont think they are dumb enough to not know he is a game changer and they need to get players that will equal up to Moss...

http://www.twincities.com/mld/twincities/sports/football/10842487.htm

Durango53

02-08-2005, 11:27 AM

Joe Mee, the Vikings' manager of ticket operations, has a severe case of shingles that has impaired vision in his right eye for almost five weeks.

Get better Joe I might be needing something from you in a couple of years!!!!

Durango53

02-08-2005, 11:28 AM

Vikings coach Mike Tice is bringing back quarterback coaching candidates Rich Olson and Kevin Higgins for second interviews this week so they can spend time with the team's offensive staff.

To bad he wont be able to hire one of them so they can start working....

Durango53

02-08-2005, 11:28 AM

Another reason Vikings owner Red McCombs is raising the price for the team is that a new satellite radio deal with Sirius could be worth $30 million to each NFL team.

Who here thinks that when Red sells it will be almost as good as winning the Super Bowl???? :angry:

Durango53

02-08-2005, 11:30 AM

Vikings quarterback Daunte Culpepper has had a rough week. Five days after a confusing incident at a Super Bowl news conference, two of Culpepper's friends were arrested in the parking lot of a basketball playground Monday afternoon and charged with possessing marijuana, according to a report filed by the Maitland Police Department in Orange County, Fla., just outside of Orlando.
http://www.twincities.com/mld/twincities/sports/football/10843533.htm

Why cant Culpepper get some good friends like James or something down there???? Why do these guys have to hang out with weeds????

Durango53

02-08-2005, 11:32 AM

The Vikings have decided to move starter Chris Liwienski from left guard to right guard, replacing David Dixon, who will become a free agent on March 2. Adam Goldberg, who finished the season at right tackle, is the new No. 1 left guard. He will compete with Anthony Herrera for the starting spot.

And again!!! Cant get enough of this story!!!! Nice going Adam!!!! :thumbsup:

Durango53

02-09-2005, 01:26 PM

Minnesota Timberwolves owner Glen Taylor said Tuesday that he is ready to offer about $600 million for the Minnesota Vikings within 24 hours if a bid by Arizonan Reggie Fowler fails.

Both men are interested in the National Football League team owned by Red McCombs, although Fowler and his investment group apparently have until the end of February to negotiate exclusively.

The tender from the 63-year-old owner of the National Basketball Association's Timberwolves would be at least $100 million more than an offer he presented less than three years ago.

Taylor also speculated Tuesday that the Vikings would be sold by March, in time for NFL owners to act on the sale at their annual meeting.

"I don't think it would take us but a day,'' Taylor said. "I have my partners lined up, the financing lined up, and a lot of the work done.''

I hope this is for real and Red just aint jerking people around... :bonehead

Durango53

02-09-2005, 01:32 PM

Vikings defensive end Kenechi Udeze will spend the next two to three months rehabilitating his right shoulder after undergoing arthroscopic surgery last week.

Vikings trainer Chuck Barta said Tuesday that Udeze had the surgery to decompress the shoulder, which bothered him throughout his rookie season, adding that the rotator cuff did not need to be repaired.

Barring a setback, Barta said, Udeze should be 100 percent by the opening of training camp in July, though he might not be ready for the team's May minicamp.

Sean Berton underwent surgery last week to repair a torn labrum in his right shoulder and is expected to miss three to four months

Brian Russell should be fine for minicamp following Jan. 28 surgery to repair two sports hernias, but it will be close for center Cory Withrow, who underwent arthroscopic knee surgery on Jan. 18.

Udeze needs to get better but the others I dont know if they will be with the team at the start of next year....