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Baseball Guru
08-13-2003, 03:49 PM
Just wanted to show you guys some samples of what I will have updated once we get this thing going...
I will have all this info at some site TBD:D
Anyways, here is a sample boxscore from one of the games:
4/6/1996, LA65-Brk55, Ebbets Field
1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 R H E LOB DP
1965 Los Angeles 0 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 3 4 6 1 8 1
1955 Brooklyn 0 0 0 2 1 0 2 0 x 5 7 2 5 0
Los Angeles AB R H BI AVG Brooklyn AB R H BI AVG
Wills ss 3 0 1 0 .333 Reese ss 3 1 0 0 .091
Johnson lf 5 1 1 3 .143 Furillo rf 4 1 3 3 .417
Fairly rf 5 0 0 0 .154 Snider cf 4 1 1 1 .308
Gilliam 3b 4 1 1 0 .250 Campanella c 2 0 1 0 .455
Parker 1b 3 0 1 0 .364 Hodges 1b 4 0 0 0 .091
Lefebvre 2b 4 0 1 1 .385 Robinson 3b 4 0 0 1 .333
Roseboro c 2 0 0 0 .111 Zimmer 2b 4 0 0 0 .000
LeJohn ph 1 0 0 0 .000 Amoros lf 3 1 2 0 .200
Torborg c 1 1 1 0 .500 Podres p 2 1 0 0 .000
Davis,W cf 2 0 0 0 .100 Labine p 0 0 0 0 .000
Tracewski ph 1 0 0 0 .250 30 5 7 5
Moon lf 0 0 0 0 .000
Ferrara ph 0 1 0 0 .000
Osteen p 3 0 0 0 .000
Reed p 0 0 0 0 .000
Davis,T ph 1 0 0 0 .000
35 4 6 4
Los Angeles INN H R ER BB K PCH STR ERA
Osteen L 0-1 6.1 7 5 4 3 0 91 58 5.68
Reed 1.2 0 0 0 0 2 20 15 0.00
8.0 7 5 4 3 2 111 73
Brooklyn INN H R ER BB K PCH STR ERA
Podres W 1-0 8.2 6 4 3 3 4 132 84 3.12
Labine S 1 0.1 0 0 0 0 0 4 3 0.00
9.0 6 4 3 3 4 136 87
LA : LeJohn batted for Roseboro in the 6th
Torborg inserted at c in the 6th
Tracewski batted for Davis,W in the 7th
Moon inserted at lf in the 7th
Johnson moved to cf in the 7th
Ferrara batted for Moon in the 9th
Davis,T batted for Reed in the 9th
E-Lefebvre, Reese 2. 2B-Gilliam, Furillo, Amoros. 3B-Furillo. HR-Johnson(1).
SB-Wills(1). CS-Wills. K-Johnson, Roseboro, Davis,W, Osteen, Snider,
Campanella. BB-Wills, Parker, Ferrara, Reese, Campanella 2. SH-Podres.
HBP-Wills. HB-Podres.
GWRBI: Robinson
Temperature: 55, Sky: clear, Wind: left to right at 5 MPH.
Baseball Guru
08-13-2003, 03:52 PM
DMB league standings -- Diamond League
Regular season
Year Team W L Pct GB L10 Strk RF RA Mgn Mgc
Senior
1955 Brooklyn 83 71 .539 - 6-4 L2 619 575 44 0
1967 St. Louis 80 74 .519 3 5-5 W1 576 625 -49
1965 Los Angeles 79 75 .513 4 5-5 W3 546 556 -10
1980 Philadelphia 76 78 .494 7 5-5 L1 667 693 -26
1971 Pittsburgh 75 79 .487 8 6-4 W1 574 589 -15
1969 New York 67 87 .435 16 8-2 W3 491 604 -113
Junior
1970 Baltimore 92 62 .597 - 5-5 L1 667 545 122 0
1935 Detroit 81 73 .526 11 4-6 L3 703 609 94
1978 New York 77 77 .500 15 4-6 W1 608 565 43
1919 Chicago 76 78 .494 16 3-7 L1 651 610 41
1980 Kansas City 74 80 .481 18 4-6 L4 582 602 -20
1975 Boston 64 90 .416 28 5-5 W2 612 723 -111
Year Team W L Pct GB L10 Strk
1970 Baltimore 92 62 .597 na 5-5 L1
1955 Brooklyn 83 71 .539 na 6-4 L2
1935 Detroit 81 73 .526 - 4-6 L3
1967 St. Louis 80 74 .519 1 5-5 W1
1965 Los Angeles 79 75 .513 2 5-5 W3
1978 New York 77 77 .500 4 4-6 W1
1980 Philadelphia 76 78 .494 5 5-5 L1
1919 Chicago 76 78 .494 5 3-7 L1
1971 Pittsburgh 75 79 .487 6 6-4 W1
1980 Kansas City 74 80 .481 7 4-6 L4
1969 New York 67 87 .435 14 8-2 W3
1975 Boston 64 90 .416 17 5-5 W2
Year Team Home Road Grass Turf vsLHP vsRHP Div InterLg
1970 Baltimore 48-29 44-33 83-50 9-12 31-21 61-41 47-23
1955 Brooklyn 44-33 39-38 73-60 10-11 31-24 52-47 37-33
1935 Detroit 39-38 42-35 67-66 14-7 28-29 53-44 36-34
1967 St. Louis 47-30 33-44 72-61 8-13 25-31 55-43 33-37
1965 Los Angeles 40-37 39-38 71-62 8-13 26-22 53-53 36-34
1978 New York 37-40 40-37 65-68 12-9 27-26 50-51 33-37
1980 Philadelphia 36-41 40-37 33-30 43-48 29-22 47-56 34-36
1919 Chicago 35-42 41-36 66-67 10-11 19-33 57-45 32-38
1971 Pittsburgh 47-30 28-49 24-39 51-40 31-24 44-55 39-31
1980 Kansas City 41-36 33-44 28-35 46-45 25-30 49-50 34-36
1969 New York 33-44 34-43 55-78 12-9 24-34 43-53 31-39
1975 Boston 29-48 35-42 56-77 8-13 26-31 38-59 28-42
Year Team Lead7 Tied7 Trail7 1-run Extra
1970 Baltimore 69-6 16-10 7-46 26-22 12-4
1955 Brooklyn 59-5 12-16 12-50 33-24 9-12
1935 Detroit 68-9 6-8 7-56 17-25 9-9
1967 St. Louis 54-6 16-11 10-57 33-13 9-9
1965 Los Angeles 60-5 13-13 6-57 30-29 8-12
1978 New York 60-10 8-13 9-54 27-33 9-11
1980 Philadelphia 58-5 13-4 5-69 28-22 6-8
1919 Chicago 63-12 9-18 4-48 17-29 6-12
1971 Pittsburgh 54-6 15-10 6-63 23-26 13-7
1980 Kansas City 54-9 11-15 9-56 25-26 9-10
1969 New York 50-8 11-10 6-69 23-28 10-8
1975 Boston 45-10 9-11 10-69 18-23 10-8
Baseball Guru
08-13-2003, 03:54 PM
DMB batting leaders -- All players in database
Regular season
--------Batting average------- ------On-base percentage------ ------Slugging percentage-----
Jones NYN .348 Jackson ChA .432 Schmidt Phi .619
Jackson ChA .327 Cochrane Det .426 Stargell Pit .604
Lynn Bos .318 Jones NYN .416 Lynn Bos .601
Brett,G KC .315 Brett,G KC .391 Greenberg Det .599
Cepeda StL .307 Lynn Bos .389 Snider Brk .584
Gehringer Det .300 Greenberg Det .381 Brett,G KC .552
Snider Brk .300 Rogell Det .376 Jones NYN .526
Clemente Pit .294 Buford Bal .375 Cepeda StL .502
McBride Phi .294 Gehringer Det .373 Robertson Pit .501
Wilson KC .293 Collins,E ChA .368 Brock StL .489
-------------Hits------------- -------------Runs------------- --------Runs batted in--------
Wilson KC 202 Greenberg Det 113 Greenberg Det 126
Brock StL 187 Schmidt Phi 109 Schmidt Phi 116
Gehringer Det 183 Gehringer Det 104 Felsch ChA 106
Jackson ChA 182 Snider Brk 101 Rice Bos 100
Cepeda StL 178 Jackson ChA 101 Snider Brk 99
Snider Brk 178 Brock StL 100 Gehringer Det 95
Weaver ChA 178 Wilson KC 96 Jackson ChA 93
Lynn Bos 177 Buford Bal 94 Lynn Bos 92
Wills LA 175 Lynn Bos 89 Cepeda StL 92
Collins,E ChA 169 Cepeda StL 88 Stargell Pit 90
------------Doubles----------- ------------Triples----------- -----------Homeruns-----------
Rice Bos 42 Felsch ChA 17 Schmidt Phi 49
Cepeda StL 39 Greenberg Det 16 Stargell Pit 43
Lynn Bos 38 Brock StL 16 Greenberg Det 41
Rose Phi 38 Boswell NYN 12 Snider Brk 40
Felsch ChA 36 Washington KC 12 Lynn Bos 34
Weaver ChA 35 Wilson KC 12 Luzinski Phi 31
Snider Brk 31 Trillo Phi 10 Robertson Pit 29
Hurdle KC 30 Schmidt Phi 10 Furillo Brk 28
McCarver StL 30 Maris StL 9 Brock StL 28
Brett,G KC 29 Clemente Pit 9 Campanella Brk 27
--------Extra base hits------- ---------Stolen bases--------- -------Steal percentage-------
Schmidt Phi 86 Wills LA 72-48 Leibold ChA .870
Greenberg Det 84 Wilson KC 58-22 Weaver ChA .826
Lynn Bos 81 Randolph NYA 30-12 Bowa Phi .778
Snider Brk 80 Brock StL 25-16 Johnson LA .750
Felsch ChA 70 Davis,W LA 22-11 Smith Phi .727
Stargell Pit 69 Johnson LA 21-7 Wilson KC .725
Brock StL 68 Blair Bal 21-16 Rivers NYA .720
Rice Bos 65 Leibold ChA 20-3 Randolph NYA .714
Cepeda StL 64 Weaver ChA 19-4 Tolan StL .706
Brett,G KC 55 Gilliam Brk 19-15 Jones NYN .684
-------------Walks------------ -------Intentional walks------ ----------Strikeouts----------
Jackson ChA 101 Jackson ChA 39 Stargell Pit 119
Cochrane Det 94 Powell Bal 26 Greenberg Det 111
Powell Bal 94 Brett,G KC 21 Agee NYN 110
Rogell Det 93 Greenberg Det 20 Schmidt Phi 109
Greenberg Det 93 Schmidt Phi 17 Rice Bos 102
Buford Bal 86 Nettles NYA 16 Hodges Brk 100
Parker LA 86 Jackson NYA 14 Robertson Pit 91
Schmidt Phi 84 Lynn Bos 14 Luzinski Phi 88
Collins,E ChA 81 Stargell Pit 13 Lynn Bos 87
Yastrzemski Bos 77 Davis,W LA 7 Zimmer Brk 86
DMB batting leaders -- All players in database
Regular season
--------Sacrifice bunts------- --------Sacrifice flies------- ---------Hit by pitch---------
Cicotte ChA 24 Felsch ChA 11 Johnson LA 13
Weaver ChA 21 Goslin Det 10 Cepeda StL 12
Cochrane Det 19 Powell Bal 9 Fox Det 11
Williams ChA 18 Cepeda StL 9 McMullin ChA 10
Parker LA 18 Greenberg Det 9 Furillo Brk 10
Fairly LA 17 Luzinski Phi 8 Robertson Pit 8
Gehringer Det 15 Brett,G KC 8 Campanella Brk 8
McNally Bal 14 Aikens KC 8 Gandil ChA 8
Burleson Bos 14 Robinson,F Bal 8 Felsch ChA 8
Crowder Det 13 Johnson LA 8 Rose Phi 8
--------Ground ball DP-------- ---------Runs created--------- -----Runs created/27 outs-----
Gehringer Det 30 Lynn Bos 128.9 Lynn Bos 8.7
Powell Bal 29 Greenberg Det 128.0 Jones NYN 8.4
Robinson,B Bal 25 Schmidt Phi 126.3 Schmidt Phi 8.1
Greenberg Det 23 Snider Brk 125.1 Stargell Pit 8.0
Hodges Brk 21 Jackson ChA 115.8 Brett,G KC 7.8
Nettles NYA 19 Stargell Pit 105.5 Snider Brk 7.7
Munson NYA 18 Gehringer Det 102.9 Greenberg Det 7.6
Furillo Brk 18 Cepeda StL 102.1 Jackson ChA 7.6
Jackson ChA 18 Brock StL 99.6 Cochrane Det 6.5
Owen Det 16 Jones NYN 97.5 Cepeda StL 6.4
--------Isolated power-------- ---------Total average-------- ----------Total bases---------
Schmidt Phi .354 Schmidt Phi 1.053 Greenberg Det 349
Stargell Pit .322 Lynn Bos 1.030 Snider Brk 347
Greenberg Det .312 Greenberg Det 1.007 Schmidt Phi 339
Snider Brk .285 Stargell Pit .994 Lynn Bos 335
Lynn Bos .284 Jones NYN .977 Brock StL 327
Robertson Pit .243 Brett,G KC .974 Stargell Pit 291
Brett,G KC .238 Snider Brk .961 Cepeda StL 291
Felsch ChA .210 Jackson ChA .957 Gehringer Det 290
Brock StL .209 Cochrane Det .879 Felsch ChA 279
Campanella Brk .202 Buford Bal .831 Rice Bos 272
Baseball Guru
08-13-2003, 03:55 PM
DMB pitching leaders -- All players in database
Regular season
------Earned run average------ ----------Strikeouts---------- -------------Walks------------
Koufax LA 1.67 Koufax LA 306 Bridges Det 107
Guidry NYA 1.84 Carlton Phi 232 Gentry NYN 89
Palmer Bal 2.02 Guidry NYA 227 Seaver NYN 84
Rowe Det 2.28 Bridges Det 193 Osteen LA 83
Carlton StL 2.29 Williams ChA 187 Palmer Bal 82
Blass Pit 2.33 Rowe Det 186 Williams ChA 81
Gibson StL 2.46 Seaver NYN 170 Ruthven Phi 80
Cicotte ChA 2.55 Palmer Bal 159 Wise Bos 80
Gale KC 2.56 Cicotte ChA 159 Carlton Phi 80
Cuellar Bal 2.59 Newcombe Brk 155 Rowe Det 80
-------------Wins------------- ------Winning percentage------ ------------Losses------------
Cicotte ChA 29-12 Rowe Det .719 Seaver NYN 9-17
Rowe Det 23-9 Cicotte ChA .707 Wise Bos 11-17
Koufax LA 23-11 Guidry NYA .692 Tiant Bos 13-17
Palmer Bal 20-12 Gibson StL .684 Jaster StL 4-16
Drysdale LA 20-14 Newcombe Brk .680 Gentry NYN 11-16
Williams ChA 20-16 Koufax LA .676 Lee Bos 12-16
Cuellar Bal 19-10 Cuellar Bal .655 Figueroa NYA 12-16
Guidry NYA 18-8 Taylor NYN .643 Williams ChA 20-16
Newcombe Brk 17-8 Blass Pit .636 Podres Brk 8-15
McNally Bal 17-14 Palmer Bal .625 Koosman NYN 14-15
--------Batting average------- ------On-base percentage------ ------Slugging percentage-----
Koufax LA .179 Koufax LA .233 Koufax LA .265
Guidry NYA .181 Guidry NYA .239 Guidry NYA .281
Gale KC .201 Cicotte ChA .254 Rowe Det .292
Rowe Det .205 Rowe Det .261 Carlton StL .301
Cicotte ChA .207 Palmer Bal .263 Palmer Bal .304
Palmer Bal .209 Cuellar Bal .266 Gale KC .305
Gibson StL .215 Gibson StL .269 Blass Pit .305
Williams ChA .215 Williams ChA .269 Gibson StL .308
Hughes StL .216 Hughes StL .270 Cicotte ChA .316
Koosman NYN .221 Koosman NYN .271 Williams ChA .326
------Hits per 9 innings------ ------Walks per 9 innings----- -----Runners per 9 innings----
Koufax LA 5.7 Newcombe Brk 1.0 Koufax LA 7.9
Guidry NYA 5.8 Briles Pit 1.6 Guidry NYA 8.3
Gale KC 6.7 Drysdale LA 1.6 Cicotte ChA 9.0
Rowe Det 6.7 Crowder Det 1.7 Rowe Det 9.3
Cicotte ChA 6.9 Cuellar Bal 1.7 Palmer Bal 9.3
Palmer Bal 6.9 Washburn StL 1.8 Cuellar Bal 9.6
Williams ChA 7.2 Splittorff KC 1.8 Williams ChA 9.7
Hughes StL 7.2 McNally Bal 1.9 Hughes StL 9.7
Gibson StL 7.2 Gura KC 2.0 Koosman NYN 9.7
Koosman NYN 7.3 Ellis Pit 2.0 Gibson StL 9.7
---Strikeouts per 9 innings--- ----Homeruns per 9 innings---- --Stolen bases per 9 innings--
Koufax LA 8.4 Carlton StL 0.3 Tiant Bos 0.1
Carlton Phi 7.5 Blass Pit 0.4 Williams ChA 0.1
Guidry NYA 7.1 Briles Pit 0.4 Cicotte ChA 0.1
Gibson StL 6.7 Rowe Det 0.4 Auker Det 0.2
Bridges Det 6.0 Koufax LA 0.5 Drysdale LA 0.2
Carlton StL 5.9 Palmer Bal 0.5 Crowder Det 0.2
Seaver NYN 5.7 Carlton Phi 0.5 Koufax LA 0.2
Podres Brk 5.6 Gura KC 0.5 Rowe Det 0.2
Rowe Det 5.5 Auker Det 0.5 Jaster StL 0.2
Newcombe Brk 5.5 Koosman NYN 0.6 Lee Bos 0.2
DMB pitching leaders -- All players in database
Regular season
-----------Shutouts----------- ---Quality start percentage--- ------Average run support-----
Palmer Bal 7 Koufax LA .875 Crowder Det 5.4
Guidry NYA 4 Blass Pit .875 Auker Det 5.0
Cuellar Bal 4 Palmer Bal .868 Cicotte ChA 4.9
Cicotte ChA 4 Guidry NYA .853 Rowe Det 4.7
Koufax LA 4 Rowe Det .800 Cuellar Bal 4.7
Craig Brk 3 Carlton StL .786 McNally Bal 4.6
Kerr ChA 3 Gibson StL .783 Ruthven Phi 4.6
Washburn StL 3 Cicotte ChA .775 Erskine Brk 4.6
Hughes StL 3 Ellis Pit .767 Faber ChA 4.5
Erskine Brk 3 Koosman NYN .742 Splittorff KC 4.5
------Save Opportunities------ -------------Saves------------ --------Save percentage-------
McGraw Phi 32 Perranoski LA 26 Perranoski LA .839
Perranoski LA 31 McGraw Phi 26 McGraw Phi .813
Giusti Pit 31 Quisenberry KC 19 Quisenberry KC .704
Quisenberry KC 27 Giusti Pit 18 Giusti Pit .581
Richert Bal 22 Labine Brk 17
Labine Brk 22 Richert Bal 17
Drago Bos 21 Willis StL 15
Gossage NYA 20 Drago Bos 14
Watt Bal 17 Taylor NYN 13
Taylor NYN 17 Gossage NYA 13
-------------Holds------------ ----------Blown saves--------- -----Blown save percentage----
Reed Phi 9 Giusti Pit 13 Giusti Pit .419
Saucier Phi 7 Quisenberry KC 8 Quisenberry KC .296
Watt Bal 6 Gossage NYA 7 McGraw Phi .188
McGraw NYN 5 Drago Bos 7 Perranoski LA .161
Willis StL 5 McGraw Phi 6
Miller LA 4 Labine Brk 5
Drabowsky Bal 3 Perranoski LA 5
Hall Bal 3 Hogsett Det 4
Lyle Phi 2 Taylor NYN 4
Craig Brk 2 Watt Bal 4
Baseball Guru
08-13-2003, 03:57 PM
DMB league game results -- Diamond League
Regular season
Date # In Away R Home R Win Loss Save GWRBI
4/4/1996 LA 1 Brk 2 Newcombe Drysdale Hodges
4/4/1996 Bos 4 ChA 2 Wise Williams Drago Lynn
4/4/1996 11 NYN 4 Pit 3 Taylor Giusti Ryan Pfeil
4/4/1996 13 StL 0 Phi 1 Reed Hoerner Schmidt
4/4/1996 Det 7 KC 4 Rowe Pattin Cochrane
4/4/1996 Bal 0 NYA 9 Guidry McNally Dent
4/5/1996 LA 6 Brk 1 Koufax Erskine Johnson
4/5/1996 Bos 2 ChA 12 Cicotte Tiant Jackson
4/5/1996 NYN 3 Pit 4 Giusti Taylor May
4/5/1996 StL 2 Phi 5 Ruthven Washburn Ruthven
4/5/1996 Det 5 KC 3 Bridges Gura Rogell
4/5/1996 Bal 5 NYA 0 Cuellar Figueroa Robinson,B
4/6/1996 LA 2 Brk 1 Osteen Podres Perranoski Roseboro
4/6/1996 Bos 6 ChA 2 Lee Faber Rice
4/6/1996 NYN 3 Pit 6 Johnson Koosman Hebner
4/6/1996 StL 8 Phi 1 Hughes Walk Flood
4/6/1996 Det 2 KC 4 Splittorff Crowder Quisenberry
4/6/1996 Bal 0 NYA 3 Tidrow Palmer Gossage Chambliss
4/7/1996 LA 3 Brk 4 Loes Podres Labine Reese
4/7/1996 Bos 3 ChA 2 Cleveland Kerr Drago McCarver
4/7/1996 NYN 6 Pit 5 McAndrew Walker Taylor Agee
4/7/1996 StL 1 Phi 3 Lerch Gibson Schmidt
4/7/1996 13 Det 2 KC 0 Hogsett Christenson Sorrell Cochrane
4/7/1996 Bal 3 NYA 2 Phoebus Beattie Richert
4/8/1996 StL 3 LA 5 Drysdale Jaster LeJohn
4/8/1996 Pit 8 Brk 7 Moose Newcombe Stargell
4/8/1996 NYA 6 ChA 3 Hunter Lowdermilk Clay Stanley
4/8/1996 Phi 3 NYN 2 Christenson Cardwell McGraw Trillo
4/8/1996 KC 1 Bal 3 McNally Martin Blair
4/8/1996 Det 7 Bos 3 Rowe Wise Gehringer
4/9/1996 StL 0 LA 5 Koufax Carlton
4/9/1996 Pit 4 Brk 2 Blass Erskine Robertson
4/9/1996 NYA 0 ChA 6 Cicotte Guidry Felsch
4/9/1996 Phi 13 NYN 3 Carlton Seaver Schmidt
4/9/1996 KC 3 Bal 8 Cuellar Leonard Powell
4/9/1996 Det 10 Bos 5 Bridges Tiant Hatter Greenberg
4/10/1996 StL 2 LA 4 Osteen Briles Perranoski Davis,W
4/10/1996 Pit 13 Brk 7 Grant Koufax Oliver
4/10/1996 NYA 5 ChA 3 Figueroa Lowdermilk Lyle
4/10/1996 Phi 2 NYN 4 DiLauro Ruthven Charles
4/10/1996 KC 3 Bal 1 Gura Palmer Martin Chalk
4/10/1996 Det 5 Bos 1 Crowder Lee Fox
4/11/1996 StL 7 LA 6 Hoerner Brewer Willis
4/11/1996 Pit 1 Brk 3 Podres Briles Labine Furillo
4/11/1996 NYA 1 ChA 6 Faber Tidrow McMullin
4/11/1996 Phi 6 NYN 0 Walk Koosman McBride
4/11/1996 KC 3 Bal 5 Hardin Splittorff Hall Powell
4/11/1996 Det 4 Bos 8 Moret Auker Willoughby Lynn
4/12/1996 Brk 0 StL 3 Gibson Meyer Cepeda
4/12/1996 LA 1 NYN 7 Cardwell Drysdale Boswell
4/12/1996 ChA 3 Det 2 Williams Sullivan Jackson
4/12/1996 Bos 4 Bal 3 Wise McNally Cleveland Fisk
4/12/1996 Pit 1 Phi 8 Espinosa Johnson Maddox
4/12/1996 NYA 1 KC 7 Gale Beattie Hurdle
4/13/1996 14 Brk 8 StL 4 Roebuck Hoerner Reese
4/13/1996 LA 2 NYN 1 Koufax Seaver Perranoski Wills
4/13/1996 ChA 7 Det 5 Cicotte Rowe Collins,E
4/13/1996 Bos 2 Bal 1 Tiant Cuellar Drago Yastrzemski
4/13/1996 Pit 2 Phi 6 Reed Kison McBride
4/13/1996 NYA 10 KC 3 Hunter Martin Nettles
4/14/1996 Brk 2 StL 12 Jaster Craig Cepeda
4/14/1996 LA 6 NYN 9 Koonce Osteen Taylor
4/14/1996 10 ChA 6 Det 7 Bridges Danforth Goslin
4/14/1996 Bos 0 Bal 3 Palmer Lee Robinson,B
4/14/1996 Pit 3 Phi 5 Carlton Walker
4/14/1996 NYA 8 KC 1 Guidry Leonard Chambliss
4/15/1996 Brk 1 StL 2 Jackson Erskine Willis Maris
4/15/1996 LA 5 NYN 4 Miller Koosman Perranoski Wills
4/15/1996 ChA 0 Det 11 Crowder Faber Fox
4/15/1996 Bos 2 Bal 3 Phoebus Moret Crowley
4/15/1996 Pit 5 Phi 6 Reed Miller McGraw Trillo
4/15/1996 NYA 6 KC 1 Figueroa Gura White
DMB league game results -- Diamond League
Regular season
Date # In Away R Home R Win Loss Save GWRBI
4/16/1996 Pit 3 LA 4 Drysdale Ellis Drysdale
4/16/1996 NYA 1 Bos 3 Cleveland Tidrow Petrocelli
4/17/1996 Phi 7 Brk 3 Walk Loes Luzinski
4/17/1996 KC 6 ChA 4 Splittorff Williams Quisenberry Washington
4/17/1996 10 NYN 1 StL 0 McAndrew Hoerner Clendenon
4/18/1996 Phi 1 Brk 6 Labine Lerch Snider
4/18/1996 Bal 2 Det 5 Rowe McNally Walker,G
4/19/1996 Pit 5 LA 1 Moose Koufax Cash
4/19/1996 KC 0 ChA 2 Cicotte Leonard Gandil
4/19/1996 NYN 4 StL 5 Washburn McGraw Washburn
4/19/1996 Bal 2 Det 4 Bridges Cuellar Rogell
4/19/1996 NYA 4 Bos 2 Guidry Wise Rivers
4/20/1996 Pit 2 LA 1 Johnson Osteen Giusti Cash
4/20/1996 Phi 4 Brk 5 Podres Carlton Roebuck Reese
4/20/1996 KC 5 ChA 0 Gale Kerr Chalk
4/20/1996 13 NYN 3 StL 4 Jackson Cardwell McCarver
4/20/1996 Bal 0 Det 13 Auker Palmer Greenberg
4/20/1996 NYA 5 Bos 2 Figueroa Tiant
PopTop
08-13-2003, 05:26 PM
Sweet! :thumbsup: I'm extremely excited! Practically got a gumby thinking about it :eek:
Way cool, can't say enough ... (Hee-Hee! I'm watching Cubs-'Stros and Estes just walked in the tying run! :clap2: ... Ray would not be amused! :D )
Anyway, I find about a thousand interesting things to discuss just looking at these stats, and I've been studying them for about 15 minutes now James, they are so neat-o and groovy ... But the one thing I can deduce is that pitching proved a bit more prominent, at least among the teams you grouped together ... Just looking at the scores, there aren't that many double-digit scores, at least there are fewer than I expect we will see in a season of all-time greats.
Reason being instead of Lou Johnson batting in the 2-hole and playing LF for your team like the '65 Bums above, you're going to have Slug Heilman or Tris Speaker or Cool Papa Bell ... Instead of Don Zimmer hitting 7th and playing 2B, you're going to have Joe Morgan or Frankie Frisch or Ryne Sandberg ... The overall pitching staffs of World Series winners will, generally speaking, be better than their everyday lineups ... Does that make sense?
Anyway I'm gellin', dude, gellin' like there's no tellin' :smokin:
PopTop
08-13-2003, 05:32 PM
Another thought ... If you don't find enough players, there are a couple of options ... First, I'll draft more than 1 team if that will help.
Secondly, you could just put together some "all-time franchise" teams ... You take the Mets, I'll put together the Astros, etc. ... Might be even easier that way for someone to "manage" more than one team so you can get at least 10-12 teams going.
Baseball Guru
08-13-2003, 05:44 PM
So in your first post, are you saying that it appears as though it seems as though it is too pitching dominating??
2nd post, that is a great idea.....
We can have a couple of beatup teams....
I like it......
Question though, say I take the Mets....Surely Tom Seaver will be in someone's rotation and obviously he is the best Met pitcher ever....Do we use him for 2 teams or just take the best of whatever is left for our alltime Mets/Stros teams??
PopTop
08-13-2003, 06:43 PM
Not saying the game is tilted either way, just that those were your results ... I know you were playing just a 154-game schedule, which I think is the best, can you program Doubleheaders to force using extra starters?
But I looked at the runs scored for the '70 Os, and your sim was under 700 ... Part of that is the 154-games schedule, part of that is I think that the pitching should be tougher in the setup like you had it because overall the lineups are facing such stronger pitching staffs than they faced the years they won the WS ... It's exactly like it probably should be, that's what I'm saying.
But when you start having all-time teams like we'er drafting in the History Forum, those teams would be expected to tilt the stats more to the offensive side because every lineup 1-8 will be so much tougher than the regular lineups the pitchers faced in their best seasons ... Does that make sense now?
Ok, the all-time franchises ... What I would suggest is you pick a single season for each player when they played for one franchise or another ... So yes, you could have Nolan Ryan facing himself as an Astro and an Angel, Frank Robinson could play for the Reds and O's, etc ... Establish some minimum (maybe 5 seasons so say 750 games for a position player, 750 IP for a starting pitcher, 250-500 IP for a reliever) for a player to qualify for a franchise ... In other words, Babe Ruth wouldn't qual for the Braves.
You could also "seed" the franchises based on history ... For example, you could have one 8-team division that included the Mets, Astros, Rangers, Padres, Royals, Blue Jays, Angels and Expos in one division since they're relatively the same "age" ... Then one NL division with 8 original teams and one AL division with 8 original teams ... I'm assuming all of this because you can set up an unbalanced schedule, real limited interdivision play ... Reason being that the Yanks should have a better team without question than the Astros or Expos just because of franchise age ... Same thing, the Braves should be stronger than the Mets or Royals.
Set it up so the winner of each division and the 2nd-place team with best record make the 4-team playoffs, etc.
Just rambling here.
PopTop
08-13-2003, 06:47 PM
And since I'm rambling, here's a little more ... Cubs lead Astros 6-4 with 2 outs in 9th, Alou with a 3-run tater in the 5th off Miceli ... Two on and Kent batting versus Borowski.
One more way to run it, and this might be really neat, would be to draft "decades" ... You be the 40s, I'll be the 70s, etc.
This means your draft is all of one round long, then the players just come up with their own lineups and deliver you the pertinent stats and rosters.
Baseball Guru
08-13-2003, 09:55 PM
Great ideas across the board Willie..
You are truely a genius....
I have an idea right now and I'd like to stick with it using any player and using his career stats...
I actually divided every # by 10 since some of the fields I have to input only allow so much space......
At least this is my plan for the first league....
You have come up with some great ideas for any future leagues we may do....
PM and give me a few times that you may be able to get on via IM and we can chat in more detail....
I am good most any evening....
Trots
08-13-2003, 10:32 PM
Very impressive, J. I look forward to playing. Btw, no way the '75 Sox play that poorly.
Baseball Guru
08-13-2003, 11:00 PM
Originally posted by Trots
Very impressive, J. I look forward to playing. Btw, no way the '75 Sox play that poorly.
lol...Agreed!!
How about Seaver being 9-17:eek:
elfudge35
08-14-2003, 12:30 AM
that looks pretty good, pretty much the same stuff I would have come out with if I do the High Heat sim, there were a few more stat leader categories in DMB, but it all looks to come out pretty similar, I'm down to do it however, any of the ways that Willie stated, but I like the all-time draft like we've been doing it more control and more strategy, also, how much control does this game give you in the day-to-day management of the teams, can you set lineups against righties and lefties, designate the frequency of steal attempts, hit and runs, etc.?
PopTop
08-14-2003, 11:46 AM
Originally posted by Trots
Very impressive, J. I look forward to playing. Btw, no way the '75 Sox play that poorly.
:laughing Trots, that's exactly what I was talking about in our All-Time Draft thread about a week ago, that some great team or team of greats is still going to lose 100 games ... It's just how it goes, the only finite or guaranteed numbers each season in baseball is there will be so many wins and the same number of losses ... A long, long time ago, I'm talking 1965-66, a couple of my buddies and I played a 154-game round robin between the '62 Reds, Pirates and Braves using the old APBA board game We'd all travel around with our little card packets and dice in our pockets all summer long, even had a home-and-away schedule working ... Ah, those were the days..................:sigh:
Anyway, in the actual 1962 standings those three teams were about 15 games apart in the NL that season ... But when we were done that summer, they were 2 games apart: Pirates were 78-76, Reds 77-77 and Braves 76-78 :eek: We still talk about it when we see each other at high school reunions and weddings and, sadly, funerals ... Our wives think we're crazy being able to remember all that ... But my point is that can happen in these sim games, but the norm favors a more widely gapped set of ranks.
Trots
08-16-2003, 01:19 PM
Oh, I understand the premise, PT. I just think those kids from '75 would have fared better based totally on my bias towards them.
Btw, I do love the APBA story. Even though it's more bittersweet today.
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