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Trots
09-02-2003, 08:02 PM
I thought this was pretty accurate.



Tram can rebuild Tigers, but not without llitch's help




By Jim Hawkins , The Daily Oakland Press 09/02/2003




Sept. 2, 2003
DETROIT
Re-build: To repair, to dismantle and reassemble with new parts; to replace, restrengthen and reinforce."


That is how the process is supposed to work - on paper anyway.
Then there is the way the allegedly rebuilding Tigers have been forced to operate - for the past decade, and particularly for the past three years.
Look at Monday's soggy line up:
Ben Petrick in center field.
Danny Klassen at second base
Cody Ross in right.
Somehow I can't believe that was what supposed savior Alan Trammell had in mind when this sorry excuse for a baseball season began.
For lack of better talent and more money, Trammell has been forced to rely on other teams' rejects, falling back into the same stop-gap mentality that has gotten the Tigers into trouble so many times in summers past.
Omar Infante and Andres Torres, once key cogs in the team's future plans, who were expected to assume everyday roles this season, have fallen so far from favor that neither even received a September summons, leaving two more holes to be filled.
Obviously, somebody overestimated.
Trusting the wrong people
On this very date, three years ago, the Tigers were 68-66, in third place, theoretically within reach of a wild card invitation to the playoffs. The Tigers, playing their first season in Comerica Park, were finally feeling good about themselves - and their fans were finally feeling pretty good about the Tigers.
After a hideous 9-23 start, they had played like the best team in baseball, actually climbing above the .500 barrier that so many other teams annually take for granted.
Phil Garner was so enthused about the future he delayed a postseason hunting trip to hang around town for a rare face-to-face meeting with Mike Ilitch. The Tiger manager had been led to believe the front office would be allowed to spend an additional $20 million on talent in 2001 and Garner thought he might be able to coax an additional $10 million out of the owner on top of that.
After all, the boss had promised that when the time came and the new ballpark was up and running, he would step up to the plate himself and spend whatever was necessary to make the Tigers winners again. An additional $20 million or so, properly spent, would have at least made the Tigers respectable.
"That's why I came here," Garner confidently - and naively - declared at the time. "If we do our part, he'll do his part. I really believe that."
Silly Phil.
According to then-GM Randy Smith, Ilitch asked his baseball people what they needed. They told him their No. 1 priorities were a power hitter and a front-line pitcher.
Monday, as the Tigers continued to flail away in pursuit of baseball's all-time record for futility, I couldn't help but wonder what things would be like today if Ilitch had not abruptly pulled the rug out from under Garner and Randy Smith three years ago.
Needs are still the same
Today, the Tigers still find themselves in dire need of a productive power hitter - or two. And Trammell admitted Monday he would very much like to add a proven big-league pitcher to bolster the Tigers' kiddy corps staff.
"If we could get somebody with a little experience, that's something I'd like to have," he said.
Of course, that depends on who might be available this winter - and, more importantly, how much money Ilitch will let Dave Dombrowski spend.
Right now, that is anybody - including Trammell's - guess.
If Trammell and Dombrowski are adequately funded and left alone by the owner, I believe they will eventually turn things around.
Of course, those are two big "ifs."
If Garner and Smith had been adequately funded and left alone by the owner, they would have eventually turned the Tigers around, too.
Thanks to Ilitch, the past three seasons - like the past decade - have been one huge waste.
And right now I cannot think of one good reason why the Tigers will not lose at least 100 games again next year.

(Jim Hawkins is a sports columnist for The Daily Oakland Press. E-mail him at jim.hawkins@oakpress.com.)

©The Oakland Press 2003

Tigers#1
09-04-2003, 11:38 AM
Godd article. What they need to do, is get Trammell, Dombrowski, Kaline and Horton together, figure out what they need to get this team back, and propose it to Ilitch. If Ilitch deny's it, than they should just walk out.

Trots
09-04-2003, 08:29 PM
I suspect that's why McHale is gone. He simply couldn't take it anymore.

From the reports I hear, Ilitch just has too many family members, friends and political payoffs working in the organization and not enough "baseball people". Apparently, that's another factor hindering the Tigers progress.

As for rebuilding, there are only so many options. To me their problem is short term, not long term. Dombrowski can continue to draft players to stock the farm teams and wait. However, coming off what maybe the worst season in Tigers and/or MLB history, they need some short-term answers.

Is anyone going to pay to watch these guys next season? Coming off this season, interest in the team may be at an all-time low. They need something to revive some interest immediately. (Did I mention that suite were sold on four year contracts at Comerica National Park and this is year four?)

Do they get stop-gap free agents? Do they overpay for big name FAs? Do they make a couple of trades and hope for the best? Do they trot out the same group next year and roll those dice again?

Will anyone pay suite prices to watch the same team take the field after Opening Day 2004?

Tigers#1
09-04-2003, 09:06 PM
They don't necesarilly need a Miguel Tejada, or Vlad Guerrero this off season, they just need several Rich Helling's, David Ortiz's, or other O.K. veterans who can play the game, and be there so all the pressure isn't on the young guys. Thats why i beleive so many talented prospects fail here. You can get all the talent in the draft you want, but if they have no one to learn from, or lean on, they'll never grow as players.

Trots
09-05-2003, 05:21 PM
I buy that train of thought to a point, #1. How do you explain where guys like Crawford, Baldelli and Huff are learning from? Some guys can just flat play. The Tigers need a couple of those type of players.

As for the FAs, my problem is two fold. First, is the team on the field. Adding a Helling (who I believe has since been demoted or released) or Ortiz might get the team back to 50-60 wins. A huge improvement, agreed. However, it's a facade. They will both be gone in two years and the Tigers farm system, as of this moment, doesn't seem to have anyone near enough ready for stardom come 2006. Of course, much will change between now and then, but three more seasons of 100 losses? That's not a big improvement to me.

(I should also point out I believe part of Ortiz' success is hitting in a lineup with Manny, Nomar and company.)

My second issue is entertainment. Simply put, casual fans aren't going to be racing to the ticket office because the Tigers acquire a Helling or Suppan-esque type hurler. The Tigs need to create some buzz about themselves. Right now, too many don't care. Even if a couple of mid-level FAs arrive and the team gets 65 wins, that's still a bunch of losses and not much excitement.

What a Guerrero or Tejada provide is credibility and someone to root for. A legit All-Star nominee. A reason to go to the park. Also someone to take your mind off the 80 plus losses headed your way. It also fills a gap where the Tigers farm system appears barren. I don't think the Tigers are going to get a FA of that caliber, but it would put the organization in a better light both locally and nationally.