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11-10-2003, 10:15 AM
Ok, these aren't necessarily the players I think are the greatest all-time Phils ... Just some of my favorites that I enjoyed watching along the way.




Starting Pitcher: Jim Bunning. Though he was only with the Phils for a total of 6 seasons, Bunning gets my nod just because when I think of the present day senator from Kentucky, I think of him in a Phils jersey. Bunning just looked big and strong and tough when he was on the mound, whether he was pitching for some of the better Phillies teams or some of the worst. A Phillie from 1964-67 and again at the tail end of his career in 1970-71, he was a 7-time All-Star (1957, 1959, 1961-64, 1966) and made it into the Hall of Fame in 1996 via the Veteran’s Committee. Notorious for pitching inside, Bunning chunked a no-hitter while with the Tigers against the Red Sox in Fenway Park on 20 July 1958, and then tossed a perfect game for the Phillies against the Mets in Shea Stadium on 21 June 1964. At the time he was the only pitcher besides Cy Young to throw no-hitters and win at least 100 games in both the AL and NL.

Relief Pitcher: Tug McGraw. The Tugger divided his 19 MLB seasons among the Mets and Phils, spending the last 10 years in the City of Brotherly Love. The zany southpaw appeared in 26 postseason games spread over 9 postseason series, going 4-5 with 8 saves and a 2.23 ERA in the playoffs overall. In the 1980 World Series against the Royals, McGraw saved Game 1 in relief of rookie starter Bob Walk, then won Game 5 and saved the clincher in Game 6 for Steve Carlton. He retired with a record of 96-92, 180 saves and a 3.14 ERA in over 1,500 MLB innings.

Catcher: Darren Daulton. I know, I know. The smart play is to go with Bob Boone here. Daulton had about 327 knee surgeries and has been in more trouble with the law since leaving baseball than I like to think about. But I always liked Dutch, and he remains the answer to the trivia question, “Who was the last catcher to lead the NL in RBI?” (1992, 109 RBI)

First Base: Dick Allen. Started his often-tumultuous 15-year MLB career with the Phils in 1963, played for them through 1969 and came back for the 1975-76 seasons. Allen always seemed to be at odds with the press, the fans, his coaches or his teammates, but was still a stud with a bat in his hands as evidenced by his lifetime .292 average and 351 homers. Allen was a 7-time All-Star and the 1964 NL Rookie of the Year.

Second Base: Juan Samuel. Close race between Samuel, Mickey Morandini and Manny Trillo in my mind. Samuel was nowhere near the defensive player the other two were, and he was only a Phillie for the first 6½ of his 16 MLB seasons. But his power/speed combination always impressed me. And his 1984 campaign was nothing short of amazing: 191 hits, 36 doubles, 19 triples, 15 homers, 72 steals, 105 runs scored and 72 RBI. It’s even more amazing if you conveniently forget the 168:28 ratio he posted in the K:BB column.

Third Base: Mike Schmidt. A no-brainer, one of the game’s best ever, and the one moment of his career I’ll always remember above all others is when Schmidt jacked one in the old Astrodome to dead center that struck a speaker suspended from the ceiling and was eventually ruled a ground rule double. Schmidt was royally ripped off on that one since it was a ball that would’ve easily traveled over 500 feet if the darn speaker hadn’t been there.

Shortstop: Larry Bowa. Had trouble hitting his way out of a wet paper bag at times, and he was a cocky little guy. But he could run and was a pretty darn slick-fielding shortstop. And being someone who was always as slow as molasses in winter and who sometimes couldn’t catch a cold if I was surrounded by a gazillion 3-year-olds with runny noses, I’ve always admired speed and defense.

Outfielders: Greg Luzinski, Garry Maddox, Johnny Callison. I swear, Maddox could run down fly balls blindfolded. He had incredibly long strides and only seemed to need about 3-4 good steps to get from dead center into one of the gaps. He won 8-straight Gold Gloves (1975-82), and longtime Pirates great Ralph Kiner said it best when he noted, “Two-thirds of the earth is covered by water, the other third by Garry Maddox.” Bull Luzinski was just a monster at the plate; he struck fear into me and I was in the stands! Luzinski spent the first 11 of his 15 MLB seasons with the Phillies, hit 223 of his 307 lifetime jacks with Philadelphia, was a 4-time All-Star and twice runner-up for the NL MVP (1975, 1977). Callison is not going to make a lot of all-time Phillies teams, but he’s still one of my favorite players if only for one dramatic moment in All-Star history. With the Nationals trailing 4-3 going into the bottom of the ninth inning of the 1964 Midseason Classic played at Shea, Callison crushed a Dick Radatz pitch for a 3-run bomb to give the NL a 7-4 win. Callison’s career was far more than that one at bat, but I can still vividly recall that moment and take you to the little park my buddies and I were at playing ball ourselves and stopping to listen to parts of the game on my transistor radio. We all took turns reenacting the moment and running around the bases as if we’d hit it.

Special_K19
11-10-2003, 01:27 PM
I always liked Morandini and Kruk. I remember a video I watched years ago where, Larry Anderson? (don't really remember who it was) was making fun of Kruk for being fat and having a short name and Morandini was so little with the long name. Anyway, I'll always remember Morandini's unassisted triple play, where he tossed the ball back to the mound afterward and no one knows what happened to it afterwards. And than I believe it was Kruk who faced Randy Johnson in the All-Star game and had a fastball thrown at his head, Kruk's reaction was priceless.

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11-10-2003, 01:49 PM
I considered Kruk, especially since he was a guy I saw play in the minors and liked him from the get-go (us chunky guys gotta' stick up for each other, you know!) ... I think I used to be afraid of Dick Allen, and maybe I thought if I didn't pick him he'd somehow find me and beat me up :eek:

:D

barzilla
11-10-2003, 04:39 PM
Of course, we could go back in history and include the likes of Chuck Klein and Richie Ashburn in the outfield. Lefty O'Doul was also a good player at the same time as Klein.

Personally, I didn't like Carlton too much, but you can't argue with 300 wins. Robin Roberts would be a good choice for those that can't stomach Carlton.

awefullspellare
11-10-2003, 06:00 PM
go Richie Ashburn!!! hes from Nebraska :D

i fou7nd a postcard from bout 10 years ago that my grandpa sent me.. he always put trivia on it and he had a question on it asking what pretty good RF played in Philly and was from Nebraska.. the answer was R----- Ashburn.. i was all :O when i was little but i found it last month using my "Rob Neyer's Great Big Book of Baseball Lineups:" :) I was thirlled lol.. so go Richie!!!

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11-10-2003, 09:03 PM
Neat story, Awefull :cool: I've got a program of my dad's when he was in NYC in 1948 and saw a game between the Yanks & Sox ... He kept score and put stars next to a couple of defensive plays, things like that and your postcard truly are priceless.

Obri
11-11-2003, 12:50 PM
I remember reading that Ashburn once hit a ball into the stands, breaking the nose of a young woman. Then, as she was being carried out for treatment, he fouled another into the stands, hitting her again.:clap2:

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11-11-2003, 02:41 PM
Obes, something similar happened in the Astrodome about 20 years ago ... Might have been 5 years ago for what my memory's worth, I've had a couple of drinks since it happened. :freak:

Anyway, a lady got nailed; I think the ball hit her shoulder then glanced off her cheek ... There was blood, but I think the worst injury was the bad bruise on her shoulder ... When they were helping her up the aisle, another foul shot struck the usher or paramedic that was holding the towel on her face.

I used to be scared to death to take my young nephews to the game and sit in those good, field box seats ... Since the Astrodome was fairly empty most of the time, I'd just tell 'em we had seats somewhere else and find an empty spot located in a less dangerous area ... No way were a couple of 5-year-olds going to pay attention, and no way I could watch them and pay attention myself.