See Keyshawn on Fox Pregame?

[LesPaul]

Anyone else watch the Fox pregame show today and see Keyshawn Johnson's appearance on it? I love how he uses the third person, "'The only problem lies between John Gruden and Keyshawn Johnson"'. First off, I think if I were deactivated from a team for any reason I think I would be too embarassed to even show my face during the first week of the first game I would miss due to it. Not Keyshawn. He also sounded like he does not expect any significant pay loss when a team (which he feels he will have no problem finding a new one) picks him up. He said how as long as his new coach knows what is best for keyshawn they would be okay, or something along that lines. This was the first time i had to watch him talk and i hope i don't have to for a long time.

[PissedPrincess]

I missed it. I wanted to see it. Keyshawn will play somewhere next year. My money is on Dallas or NE.

[LesPaul]

ya i could see him as a dallas cowboy, he fits the stereotype...

[Durango53]

This guy is a joke. He thinks he is a star that he isnt. He is a good WR dont get me wrong but he is not the game breaker. He isnt the Moss, Owens but he thinks he is.

I blame most of this on John Gruden. The first time Keyshawn talked crap to him he should have nailed his butt to the wall and not let up.

[Durango53]

Here is a funny little thing I read on ESPN.

Me-Shawn's Hall of Fame scam
By Jason Whitlock
Page 2 columnist


What Me-shawn Johnson has never been able to accept is that in terms of football skills, he's Wayne Chrebet with a suntan, a bad attitude and questionable hands.


Me-shawn has never owned the necessary ingredients -- speed, savvy, heart, soft hands -- to be a lead receiver.


It would be easy for me to rip Me-shawn today. Jon Gruden and the Tampa Bay Buccaneers delivered Me his long overdue comeuppance, benching Me for the season and dealing his Hall of Fame pursuit a major setback. The news of Me's demise gave me a feeling of giddiness and restored my faith in football justice.



Happier times: Keyshawn's Bucs teammates celebrate after he scores a rare touchdown.


But I'd prefer to take the column road less traveled.


I'd like to salute Me-shawn for his marketing genius. For nearly eight NFL seasons, he fooled the media and several NFL coaches into believing he was a big star. The Jets and the Bucs wasted high draft picks and millions of dollars on Me, and built passing games around the slow-footed, undersized tight end who trick-or-treated as a go-to receiver.


Me-shawn scribbled "Just Throw Me the Damn Ball," and Bill Parcells, Tony Dungy and Jon Gruden all obeyed. Me put up decent numbers. He reached 600 receptions faster than anyone besides Marvin Harrison, and appeared in three Pro Bowls. When Me-shawn talked of making the Hall of Fame, the conversation didn't elicit the deafening level of laughter it should have.


People took Me-shawn seriously.


Me was the shrewdest self-promoter since Brian Bosworth. Me-shawn was The Great Black Hope. We marveled at his size -- 6-foot-4, 215 chiseled pounds -- got caught up in his stats and thought we were looking at a young Jerry Rice with a nasty personality defect.


In a league reluctant to make a significant trade, the Bucs surrendered two first-round draft picks to get Me, and then handed him a $56-million contract. Again, no one laughed. Me had everyone fooled.


He ran his mouth so much that the media and NFL coaches failed to look at his actual production and recognize that Me had more in common with Chrebet, the ultimate possession receiver, than Rice, the ultimate receiving weapon.


In his 19-year career, Rice has 83 receptions of more than 40 yards. Me and Chrebet have nine receptions of more than 40 yards. Jerry has 192 TD receptions. Me and Chrebet have 48 and 40, respectively. Rice and Me have similar athleticism, size and speed. But Me can't match Rice's football intellect.


On the flip side, Rice can't match Me's marketing intellect.


You have to hand it to Me-shawn. He knows exactly what he is, and he knows he's pulled off one of the great scams in marketing history. That's why he wore such a huge smile when he chatted with Dan Patrick on Tuesday's SportsCenter. For a man who had allegedly been publicly humiliated, Me-shawn looked as happy as a Cincinnati Bengal as he talked about being deactivated.


Me was probably counting his money and contemplating his early vacation plans. Gruden busted Me-shawn for armed robbery, and the Bucs punished him with six weeks of paid probation. Me got away with the smoothest heist since Tim Robbins' Shawshank Redemption.


Me may never get credit for his business savvy. He may have fooled the media, but we've never loved Me the way we love Deion Sanders and the other great quotes. Prime Time backed up his bluster with Hall of Fame play, and Prime's teammates fawned all over him. So Deion is known as a marketing whiz ahead of his time. The nickname, the jewelry, the late 1980s jeri curl, the clothes, the end- zone celebrations, the trash talk ... they're all part of Deion's legend. They'll all be shipped to Canton with Deion.


But what about Me, the $56-million possession receiver with bad hands and a cancerous locker-room demeanor?


The Great Black Hope belongs in Canton, too. But for different reasons.


Me talked his way into millions of dollars, gravy-trained a Super Bowl ring off the backs of Derrick Brooks, Warren Sapp, Simeon Rice and John Lynch, stole credibility by pretending to be one of Bill Parcells' "guys" and once put together a signature 106-reception, one-TD season.


Me will always be remembered for doing whatever it took to outshine the Jets' little mascot flashlight. And that's the legacy that should earn him a bust in Canton.

[Fullabull]

I purposely missed the FOX show because of Me-shawn. Talk about trash TV. All of these networks and advertisers want to do is lower their standards and higher hoodlums that don't promote the sport but increase ratings or sell shoes. I refuse to support it.

Before becoming a star at USC Me-shawn had to remove himself as one of the big shots in "The Cripts & Bloods" L.A. street gang. Which is not an easy task, once a member you are a member for life. (not sure which gang he was affiliated with, there all the same to me).

[00_Agent]

I don't know what everybody's problem is with Keyshawn. He has been a very good wide reciever for some time now, and until this season, I don't really remember his attitude being a problem, even when he wrote that book. There were a few seasons when he was with the Jets when people were considering that he might be the best wide reciever in the NFL. He wasn't but the fact that they were talking about it is something to hang your hat on IMO.

Yeah, he likes to talk, and I don't appreciate anyone talking about how they never get the ball (ahem, Terrel Owens). They're trying to win football games, not sabotage anyone's career.

The last couple weeks, Hines Ward (a possession reciever by the way) has had I think 4 catches for almost no yards, and hasn't said a thing. If he has it was probably something along the lines of "I need to play better."

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[Durango53]

Originally posted by 00_Agent
I don't know what everybody's problem is with Keyshawn. He has been a very good wide reciever for some time now, and until this season,
Yeah, he likes to talk, and I don't appreciate anyone talking about how they never get the ball (ahem, Terrel Owens). They're trying to win football games, not sabotage anyone's career.

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i dont have a problem at all with a player talking trash and having fun playing the game. I love to see players talk trash and try to get in other players head.

I do have a problem with a player any player a fair player like Keyshawn or a great player like Owens and Moss talking trash about their team and their coach. That is called cancer in the clubhouse. The coach is there to make the calls, if you start to let the players walk all over you and let them dictate the game then you have no control and you loss games. Talking is fine talking trash is fine also having fun is great even if you do get into it with your coach sometimes is fine but do it behind closed doors. Keep it in the house. Doing it out in public and to keep doing it is bad and I would have cut his butt also.

Let me compare two players career stats here.
REC 603 REC 541
YDS 7936 YDS 7611
AVG 13.2 AVG 14.1
TD 48 TD 48

With the one in the left being Keyshawn and the one on the right being Curtis Conway. This are two good WR but they are not in the same class as TO or Moss. Keyshawn can only run his mouth as good as TO or Moss.

[Durango53]

Chrebet and Keyshawn having close to the same stats also. I wouldnt call Chrebet a very good WR I would call him a Keyshawn a very good possession receiver. They are not the game breakers like Keyshawn thinks he is.

[Loyalraidersfan]

There is no doubt that Keyshawn is a fool. He has absolutely humiliated himself, he is the laughing stock of the NFL! And I love it! It is becoming painfully obvious to me that he is nothing but a manipulative con artist with average football skills. The only thing all-pro about him is his mouth.

Keyshawn's a PUNK!:2guns: