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Special_K19
01-13-2004, 12:53 PM
Alright, it was a little late, but here none the less. We'll see how this one goes and hopefully enough people participate to warrant continuing with subsequent decades. Vote for one position player and one pitcher who you think performed the best over the given decade. Simple. :D

This was a real weak decade in terms of talent. Really only one position player and one pitcher stands out as this was their first decade of existance. Here's a brief summation of the players.

Special_K19
01-13-2004, 12:57 PM
Nap Lajoie 1902-1910 - One of the most popular Indians ever. Over the decade he hit .342 and led the team in hits (1502), runs (660), homeruns (30), and RBI (651). He was so popular that the team was named the Naps after him for his playing days.

Bill Bradley 1901-1910 - The only player on this list to play the entire decade with the Tribe and it is reflected in his stats as he is close to Lajoie with 649 runs and 27 homers. He hit .272 with 473 RBIs.

Elmer Flick 1902-1910 - Like Lajoie, a hall of famer, but primarily for his pre-Tribe days. He still had a lot of speed leading the decade with 207 steals and had 535 runs as well. He had the most patience at the plate with 355 walks to lead the deacde by far and had a .363 obp compared to his .299 average.

Terry Turner 1904-1910 - He makes the list primarily for his defense. He is very pedestrian at the plate and had little power but still is near the top of the list with 328 runs and 274 RBIs. Many consider him to be one of the top 3 SS for the Tribe, an accomplishment considering all the talent they've had there.

George Stovall 1904-1910 - He's here for the same reason as Turner, widely regarded as the best defensive first baseman the Tribe has ever had. His offense is only slightly better than Turner's: .265 with 331 runs and 297 RBIs.

Special_K19
01-13-2004, 01:08 PM
Addie Joss 1902-1910 - He pitched the Tribe's first no hitter in 1907 and like fellow hall of famer Lajoie, dominates the stats. He pitched 2327 innings and won 160 games losing 97 while posting an era of 1.89. Also struck out 920. Would have continued dominance to next decade if not for his untimely death in 1911.

Bob Rhoades 1904-1909 - His wins, 88 and era, 2.39, are second only to Joss and he struck out 427.

Earl Moore 1901-1907 - He's very similar to Rhoades, but higher era, 2.58 and more K's, 616.

Bill Bernhard 1903-1907 - He won 77 and had an era of 2.45 and struck out 414.

Glenn Leibhardt 1906-1909 - Really didn't pitch in first or last season, but in 1907 and 1908 he won 18 and 15 while putting up era's in the low 2.00's (2.05 and 2.20). His two good seasons beat out Otto Hess's 6 average season.

Baseball Guru
01-13-2004, 03:07 PM
This is very well done Brian!!

I had a very, very difficult time in picking between Lajoie and Joss but in the end decided to go with Lajoie.....

In a close vote like this I had to go with the everyday player over the pitcher....

Tough call though:notme:

Special_K19
01-14-2004, 02:37 PM
You know James, and the other two anonymous voters, you can vote for one pitcher and one position player. I did this for a couple of reasons. 1) I hate to compare the value of pitchers to hitters/fielders as their roles are vastly different. And 2) As the decades go on, there will be better talent and more of it, so there will be more choices.

Special_K19
01-14-2004, 02:37 PM
BTW, I voted Lajoie and Joss.

Baseball Guru
01-15-2004, 10:25 AM
DOH!!:banghead


I didnt catch that part where I could vote for one of each...

Easy decision then, Joss and LaJoie!!!

I'll add Joss to my vote....

imgreat95
01-15-2004, 12:07 PM
This one was pretty much a no brainer.

Special_K19
01-15-2004, 04:49 PM
Thanks to the voters and a bump to tell everyone voting will end tomorrow evening, around 6ish.

Next decade should be more interesting. Off the top of my head Shoeless, Nap, Steve O'Neill, and Speaker will be there for positional players.

PopTop
01-16-2004, 07:56 PM
Originally posted by Special_K19
Nap Lajoie 1902-1910 - One of the most popular Indians ever. Over the decade he hit .342 and led the team in hits (1502), runs (660), homeruns (30), and RBI (651). He was so popular that the team was named the Naps after him for his playing days.

Nap also played over 1100 games at 2B that decade with a major league best .965 fielding pct at the position. He got my vote. Cool stuff, K. I love breaking the numbers down by decades!

Obri
01-16-2004, 08:01 PM
Sorry I didn't see this earlier K, good post.

My limited baseball knowledge says Lajoie, but if I can pick another, it's Joss.

Special_K19
01-16-2004, 11:10 PM
Voting has now ended with Lajoie getting the most votes for position players and Joss for pitchers. In the big shocker, Bill Bradley received a vote.

The 1911-1920 decade will probably be up on Sunday and will be running until about Thursday.

PopTop
01-17-2004, 09:50 PM
Originally posted by Special_K19
The 1911-1920 decade will probably be up on Sunday and will be running until about Thursday.

That will be tough - Do you go with Joe for his good years in the early teens with the Tribe, or with Tris for his good years in the last half of the teens?

Baseball Guru
01-18-2004, 06:52 PM
Great point Willie...

I cant wait to see the Jackson/Speaker breakdown and debate....

I would think the pitcher would be Stan Coveleski who won over 100 games the last 5 years of the decade....

Special_K19
01-18-2004, 10:29 PM
I lied, it won't be up until tomorrow, I had a full house today watching football and didn't get anything else done. And I doubt much else'll get done tonight by me.

Baseball Guru
01-19-2004, 08:59 AM
Liar!!:eviltongu


Woke up this morning extra early just to vote in the poll;)


:D

Durango53
01-20-2004, 01:59 PM
Nap Lajoie Was my pick but it wouldnt let me vote?!?!? So I will just put it here.

And Joss for my pitcher.

Special_K19
01-20-2004, 02:33 PM
I closed the poll, that's probably why you couldn't vote. But Lajoie and Joss won in a landslide, your vote would make it 11 for Lajoie and 6 for Joss.