Legalize marijuana?

[BPBlueSox]

Just a question for yall out there.

This is not a personal stance for me one way or the other...just wondering how everybody thought about it....

[Kiwideus]

I don't smoke but the way i see it. I think it should be legalized, the government will make HUGE profits from the taxes out of it.

God made Marijuana and Man made Alcohol and which one do you trust?

[Rockin Robin]

Good points, Kiwi!!!

When I was young, I had a very very loose association with NORML. But that was many many many lifetimes ago!

Now, it really doesn't mattter to me one way or the other.

But then again, my brother-in-law's 23-year-old nephew was killed a few years ago because the guys he was selling pot to wanted more than he had. So they shot him.

[rockin500]

nope, it shouldnt be.

[Durango53]

God made Marijuana and Man made Alcohol and which one do you trust?
You find alcohol was made very early in mans history just look at the Bible and you will find it starting with Noah. And it is all though the Bible.
And Jesus made water into wine so to me God did make alcohol....

Now for marijuana I dont think it should be at all. I have seen people that smoked it for years and they just dont seem to be as sharp after a few years of smoking it. I dont know but always heard it kills brain cells and I do believe it after working with guys that have done it. But as long as someone does it somewhere where they dont bug me. They dont do it and then drive just like alcohol then fine with me I dont care what they do but I still dont think it should be legal.

[metmagic]

definitely! i'm all for it :thumbsup:

[PissedPrincess]

:PPsmilie:

Yes. Why should criminals profit off it?

[Hobosox]

not as unhealthy as cigarettes, and doesnt affect you as much as alcohol (ability to drive, walk, etc.) plus the goverment could tax it and it could be used more for medicinal purposes.

[Hobosox]

for the record, ive never smoked it, so i don't know for sure its effects, but from what i've read, if cigarettes and alcohol are legal at a certain age, marijuana should be too, because its effects are just as bad, if not "less-bad"

[metmagic]

Marijuana is frequently beneficial in the treatment of the following conditions:

AIDS. Marijuana can reduce the nausea, vomiting, and loss of appetite caused by the ailment itself and by various AIDS medications.

Glaucoma. Marijuana can reduce interlobular pressure, thereby alleviating the pain and slowing -- and sometimes stopping -- the progress of the condition. (Glaucoma is the leading cause of blindness in the United States. It damages vision by increasing eye pressure over time.)

Cancer. Marijuana can stimulate the appetite and alleviate nausea and vomiting, which are common side effects of chemotherapy treatment.

Multiple Sclerosis. Marijuana can limit the muscle pain and spasticity caused by the disease, as well as relieving tremor and unsteadiness of gait. (Multiple sclerosis is the leading cause of neurological disability among young and middle-aged adults in the United States.)

Epilepsy. Marijuana can prevent epileptic seizures in some patients.

Chronic Pain. Marijuana can alleviate the chronic, often debilitating pain caused by myriad disorders and injuries.

[rockin500]

it also makes a person mentally slow with too much use.

[Sagebrush]

legalize it!!

it makes movies funnier and mountain dew taste good! :)

[Yankee 21]

Yep..you guys are like family to me so I can be honest with ya...most of you know how much I've been hurting for the last 2 years and the pain gets so bad that atleast once a night I'm throwing up because of it and I hardly sleep anymore but on those really really bad nights..if it wasn't for a hit or two..I swear I'd proably take all my drugs and just never wake up.

[I Are Baboon]

I don't think anyone will argue that is should be legalized for medical reasons. As far as for recreational use, I dunno. There are far worse things that are legal. I've never touched the stuff myself, but if you want to use it, more power to ya.

[Misha77Piazza]

I'm for legalized MJ because I believe that would help everyone involved such as in medical reason, to reduce the criminal, taxes, etc. I agree with BoSox and Cyn on that. Yes, I have smoked it. It makes you hungry all the time, laughing all the time and talking alot. It also causes you impairment and lose your balance. Booze and MJ mixed together are much worse than MJ alone or booze alone. BUT comparing '70's and this year is BIG different because back in' 70's, you got straight MJ only. This year, MJ may be laced with some other stronger drugs which could be bad for you. Hell, last time I smoked was 1980.

[metmagic]

i don't have as much fun with it like some people cuz it makes me insanely analytical and philosophical :hmm (like i need more of that) james, remember how we talked for like 4 hours one night and i analyzed everything to death and made your brain hurt? multiply that by a thousand :eek:

[PissedPrincess]

When my grandma went thru Chemo, my hubby would always smoke a joint with her. It helped her nauseia immensely.

[rockin500]

i don't have as much fun with it like some people cuz it makes me insanely analytical and philosophical :hmm (like i need more of that) james, remember how we talked for like 4 hours one night and i analyzed everything to death and made your brain hurt? multiply that by a thousand :eek:


haha me too. i havent touched the stuff in a few years. saw too many of my college friends become potheads and addicted on other drugs as well (lsd, tranqs, etc.).

so i guess thats why i dont think it should become legalized...

[PopTop]

Yes, and tax the holy poop outta' it, divvy that up among the 50 states and give all cops, firefighters, EMT's and teachers a raise.

[Kiwideus]

Yes, and tax the holy poop outta' it, divvy that up among the 50 states and give all cops, firefighters, EMT's and teachers a raise.

AMEN! :D

[metmagic]

Yes, and tax the holy poop outta' it, divvy that up among the 50 states and give all cops, firefighters, EMT's and teachers a raise.

oooh you'd make a great president! :clap:

[Piazza'sbabe]

not as unhealthy as cigarettes, and doesnt affect you as much as alcohol (ability to drive, walk, etc.) plus the goverment could tax it and it could be used more for medicinal purposes.

YES it is AS unhealthy as cigarettes because the smoke is unfilter and as much of a carcinogen as tobacco. People who smoke pot and not cigarettes get lung cancer, mouth cancer and throat cancer just as quickly as cigarette smokers.
YES it does affect motor skills and judgement AS much as alcohol, people who are arrested for driving under the influence isn't just from booze...
So for the common man I voted no.

BUT for medical purposes prescribed by a Doctor for those afflicted with AIDS, Chemo etc...absolutely.

[Sagebrush]

YES it is AS unhealthy as cigarettes because the smoke is unfilter and as much of a carcinogen as tobacco. People who smoke pot and not cigarettes get lung cancer, mouth cancer and throat cancer just as quickly as cigarette smokers.
YES it does affect motor skills and judgement AS much as alcohol, people who are arrested for driving under the influence isn't just from booze...
So for the common man I voted no.



by that logic, tobacco and alcohol should be illegal, mais non?

[rockin500]

well, america was founded on tobacco.

plus cigarettes are more easily regulated. you know you are sucking on poison. too many people dont realize thats the case with pot.

and as for booze, well. that is also a lot easier regulated as you know what you are getting in your booze.

you dont know what you are getting in your pot.

[Piazza'sbabe]

by that logic, tobacco and alcohol should be illegal, mais non?
I was answering a QUOTE that stated that pot wasn't as HARMFUL as cigarettes.
And guess what.
It is.

:hmm:

[LesPaul]

saw too many of my college friends become potheads and addicted on other drugs as well (lsd, tranqs, etc.).

so i guess thats why i dont think it should become legalized...

exactly what i was going to say. people claim its not a gateway drug but no one will ever be able to convince me it isnt. even if it was legal the people it hurts the most are the ones that get hooked and seek the more powerful stuff. colombia would see imports rise if it were legalized. think about it, if mj is prolly the most prevalent recreational drug right now, what will people turn to to rebel with if its legal? plus think what it would do to the general public. "People coming to bomb us man? Damn, thats whack. I hope it doesn't mess up my sittin on the couch eatin these chips." it would be the one way the monkeys could take over the world. :D

medical use, sure. but i would still never use it.

[PopTop]

people claim its not a gateway drug but no one will ever be able to convince me it isnt.

Ok, not really trying to convince you otherwise, LP, just here to say there are at least exceptions to your rule ... Take me for example (kids, don't try this at home) --- Times were a bit different when I was a teen and the 70s were getting underway ... But I was apparently already on the other side of the fence and didn't need a gate at all, LesPaul, because I experimented with acid before I ever touched a joint ... I think that once you get into any illegal drugs or controlled substances, you might be willing to experiment more with other drugs ... But to blame pot for someone becoming a coke addict? Naw, I can't go that way.

I used to steal a can or two of Falstaff from my dad's supply in the garage ... Is alcohol the gateway to my wanting to try hallucinogens or pot? ... I smoked a pack of cigs a day by the time I was 14, about two years before I tried any of the other drugs back then ... Is nicotine another gateway drug?

No, I don't really blame tobacco or lifting a few of my dad's beers for leading me to try other drugs ... I don't blame anything but my own curiosity and, some may say, my own weakness when it comes to temptation ... Maybe I can blame a little bit on how weird things started getting in society with drugs and sex and nearly everything else about 1970 and beyond, but I can't blame too much ... I also don't want to suggest that any era --- Today, 20 years ago, 40 years ago --- should be a convenient excuse ... Kids today have it just as weird and difficult as I had it as a teen, it's just that technology has changed.

I've just known quite a lot of folks who are either like me (tried other drugs before pot) or who only tried marijuana and then nothing else.

[Toy Cannon]

I experimented with acid before I ever touched a joint

I used to steal a can or two of Falstaff from my dad's supply in the garage.


Really gonna have to meet you Willie, we have alot more in common than just where we live and our Al Kaline bats.

I rarely smoke pot these days, and I mean rarely (that hasn't always been the case). Gimma a cold Mexican beer and I'm one happy Texan. There are occasions however, when a joint (or more correctly, a couple hits off of one) is what the Dr. ordered. 2 or 3 times a year at most. Marijuana makes me too introspective in a social arena, I clam up and put too much thought into what I'm saying and care too much what others might think. That's not my personality therefore I pretty much stay away from the stuff. Would I want my children to experiment with it? Not really, but what I really don't want to see is them falling in love with something that take the focus off of what ever goals they have set for themselves. Therein lies the real danger, IMO.

Would I like to see it leagalized? I think I'd rather see the penalties reduced significantly. I dunno, the last thing in the world I want to be is a hypocrite and there are medicinal values to the herb. I think that this is a question that we won't see an answer to in the very near future.

[lal4l]

A cop put it to me this way
--So your with your wife yall both get home after a real bad day you guys have a few drinks and she ends up with a black eye

--on the other hand same story except yall both smoke and get high and end up having good sex...

This changed my opinion it SHOULD be legalized

[rockin500]

A cop put it to me this way
--So your with your wife yall both get home after a real bad day you guys have a few drinks and she ends up with a black eye

--on the other hand same story except yall both smoke and get high and end up having good sex...

This changed my opinion it SHOULD be legalized


except not everyone is a mellow pothead.

[Kiwideus]

I agree with Pop Top on this,

Penalties ought to lighten up a little bit.

[redsoxman]

Marijuana is basically legal up here in Alaska. You can't sell it, but the cops don't do anything to you if you have an ounce or two on you, and you can smoke it in your own house or place of residence.

Smoking the stuff once or twice a month ain't a bad thing.

[Cyberlibrarian]

I'm thinking we can see the young-ish demographic at work here.

Why shouldn't we legalize marijuana? Let me count the ways:

There's the impaired short-term memory, the reduced testosterone levels, the lower sperm count, the disrupted ovulation, the effect on blood pressure, the weakened immune system...

What about putting it this way:

You inhale cigarette smoke. Cigarette smoke is bad for you. People are encouraged to quit, and it is getting harder and harder to find places where you can smoke.

You inhale marijuana smoke. But it's not bad for you? We should legalize it?

I'm thinking not.

[Kiwideus]

I'd rather to smoke one joint a month instead of smoke 1 to 2 packs of cigarettes everyday!!! :nut:

Thank goodness I am not a smoker! :D

[Cyberlibrarian]

I'd rather to smoke one joint a month instead of smoke 1 to 2 packs of cigarettes everyday!!! :nut:

Thank goodness I am not a smoker! :D

So THAT'S why you're a Yankee fan. ;)

[PopTop]

Not everyone is a mellow stoner, nor is everyone a violent drunk ... And the list of items that can be harmful to our bodies is much longer than ciggys and joints ... Should we 86 alcohol from the list as well?

One man's limit is another man's starting line.

EDIT: PS - Julie, thanks for lumping me in the "youngish demographic" ;)

[Piazza'sbabe]

I'd rather to smoke one joint a month instead of smoke 1 to 2 packs of cigarettes everyday!!! :nut:

Thank goodness I am not a smoker! :D

you might as well smoke cigarettes, your getting as much carcinogens in one joint.

[Kiwideus]

you might as well smoke cigarettes, your getting as much carcinogens in one joint.

Like I just said, I am not a smoker :D
I am just telling my opinion thats all :cool:

[PissedPrincess]

I agree with Pops and TC completely.

Weed is NOT a gateway to other drugs. I smoke about once a month, usually when I have bad cramps. I curl up alone, and eat, and watch a funny movie. I don't smoke it socially, it makes me withdrawn.

My husband doesn't drink, maybe a beer once in a while, but he smokes a joint on Friday's after work.

Most pot smokers I know don't drink much, and they definetly don't use other drugs.

[rockin500]

I agree with Pops and TC completely.

Weed is NOT a gateway to other drugs. I smoke about once a month, usually when I have bad cramps. I curl up alone, and eat, and watch a funny movie. I don't smoke it socially, it makes me withdrawn.

My husband doesn't drink, maybe a beer once in a while, but he smokes a joint on Friday's after work.

Most pot smokers I know don't drink much, and they definetly don't use other drugs.


maybe its just the stoners i knew. lol.

cuz almost all of the pot smokers i knew in college made me look like a lightweight drinker. lol

but whatever, just not my thing.

[PissedPrincess]

Okay. Scratch the idea of buying Ray a dime bag for Xmas. :D

[Yankee 21]

Okay. Scratch the idea of buying Ray a dime bag for Xmas. :D
LOL..send it my way Jac..I'm having a really really bad week..haven't eaten in three days!

[PissedPrincess]

It's on it's way Kel. :PPsmilie:

Sorry about your week.

[LesPaul]

dunno. there is a certain undescribable pain that you will never get rid of when you see your friends lives unfolding before you. i think smoking weed is totally dependent on the person but if its legalized i honestly think that you will see a lot more people realizing that even weed cannot solve the problems they have so they will continue to seek other things that will. from personal observations i saw people go from heavy drinking to dabling in weed to becoming full blown pot heads to taking acid and smoking crack. especially at the highschool to college transition there is too many problems people try to ease with weed and when that quits working its on to other things. if you legalize it, the people who do smoke it and do fine with it will be happy cause they wont be being cracked on but i think the amount of people's lives it would ruin in the long run isn't worth it since people would tend to abuse it and find themselves in over their heads before they know it.

[Yankee 21]

It's on it's way Kel. :PPsmilie:

Sorry about your week.


Thanks Jac! These kind of weeks come and go,nothing I can do about them.

[Misha77Piazza]

It's on it's way Kel. :PPsmilie:



Same here, send this to my way, too as long as if it's putting me to sleep which I doubt anyway because I'd laugh and make the cracks, etc.

[Yankee 21]

Hey Lady..I'll share with ya!

[Misha77Piazza]

Hey Lady..I'll share with ya!

Oh, please do! :D :PPsmilie:

[PissedPrincess]

:PPsmilie:

*exhale*

:PPsmilie:

*passes to Misha*

[Misha77Piazza]

Thanks!

*Passes :PPsmilie: to Jacqui*

*Passes :PPsmilie: to Kels*

:wazup:

[Yankee 21]

Thanks!

*Passes :PPsmilie: to Jacqui*

*Passes :PPsmilie: to Kels*

:wazup:

*passes :PPsmilie: to Misha*

[Misha77Piazza]

*passes :PPsmilie: back to Kels and Jacqui*


Ahhhh, that feels great! *giggles* Ahhhh....*giggles* *points at you and giggles like a little schoolgoil*

[PissedPrincess]

:PPsmilie:

I got the munchies.

[RockieBill]

Ya know, I think most of us could pick the pothead out of a crowd, and it's not because of their obviously superior intelligence or social grace. Same goes for crackheads, speedfreaks, junkies, etc. We have enough problems in this country without adding a few million more people that are out of touch with reality.

Now, I think I'll go roll up a big ole' fattie and watch the fish tank for a few hours.

:)

[Durango53]

Ya know, I think most of us could pick the pothead out of a crowd, and it's not because of their obviously superior intelligence or social grace. Same goes for crackheads, speedfreaks, junkies, etc. We have enough problems in this country without adding a few million more people that are out of touch with reality.

Now, I think I'll go roll up a big ole' fattie and watch the fish tank for a few hours.

:)
Well said

[PissedPrincess]

Now, I think I'll go roll up a big ole' fattie and watch the fish tank for a few hours.

:)

:evillol :evillol :evillol

[Misha77Piazza]

OMG, Bill! I actually howled in laughter when you talked about rolling up a big fattie and watching the fish tank. :evillol :evillol :evillol :evillol

[PissedPrincess]

OMG, Bill! I actually howled in laughter when you talked about rolling up a big fattie and watching the fish tank. :evillol :evillol :evillol :evillol

I did too.....for the simple fact that I've done that. :fro:

[RockieBill]

Haha - what else are fish tanks good for? :D

[Misha77Piazza]

Haha - what else are fish tanks good for? :D
Yeah, can you come over and set them up here, too? :D I'm too lazy to do that since they're sitting in the basement. :D ;)


:PPsmilie: and passes to Billie

[RockieBill]

What ya' need to do is go watch a friend's aquarium, Misha - they're just too much trouble to keep clean - for me, anyway. And it will really torque ya' to find your $400 Lamprologus Leleupi floating belly-up some morning.

<img src="http://www.addictsports.com/baseball/attachment.php?attachmentid=572"></img> *back at ya'!*

[Misha77Piazza]

What ya' need to do is go watch a friend's aquarium, Misha - they're just too much trouble to keep clean - for me, anyway. And it will really torque ya' to find your $400 Lamprologus Leleupi floating belly-up some morning.

<img src="http://www.addictsports.com/baseball/attachment.php?attachmentid=572"></img> *back at ya'!*


Yikes! Lamprologus Lelupi....it's not African or South American chiclid? Oh well, I've seen my fishies go up belly up all the time annually. I have had those tanks for 20 years. I'm thinking of putting in some exotic fishies but not sure yet for one huge (40 gal) tank and several common fishies in 20 gal tank.
:PPsmilie: and passes it back to Bill

[RockieBill]

Haha - I knew a girl that had teeth like chiclids... ;)

[Misha77Piazza]

Haha - I knew a girl that had teeth like chiclids... ;)


:evillol Haha!

[Obri]

I'm just a student, I wouldn't know anything about something like cannabis.

:Peep: