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Baseball Guru
05-26-2004, 11:05 AM
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Mets building confidence, and a win streak

Tom Singer

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Cliff Floyd (left) acknowledges fellow outfielder Mike Cameron after their win Tuesday. (Julie Jacobson/AP)



NEW YORK -- Who do you believe? The calendar, or the intense pregame faces in both dugouts?

Do you believe that nothing vitally important to a baseball season happens in May? Or do you believe that it's never too early to make a point?
Do you believe Tuesday's game in Flushing was just another lap on a 162-lap race? Or do you believe the roar of 29,385 greeting Mike Piazza's laser into the left-field bullpen?

Even with the first baseman's 10th homer of the season in the sixth, the Mets had enough of a cushion -- 2-0 -- at that point. They took the Phillies, 5-0, and now are on the winning side of the ledger.

The Mets got to 23-22 by even overcoming an invitation to disaster they would not have turned down the last couple of seasons.

Third baseman Ty Wigginton's watermelon-seed play that loaded the bases with two outs in the seventh would have opened the trap door. Now? All it opened was the bullpen gate, through which Mike Stanton appeared to fan Jimmy Rollins.

Over .500 today. Who knows what tomorrow brings? But Shea Stadium once again was the land of 'Ya Gotta Believe,' not of make-believe.

"With every win, the fans are getting more excited. And that pumps us up," said manager Art Howe, an unmistakeable twinkle in his eyes. "It's fun around here. The park is very energized right now."

Right now, it feels like Tom Glavine did pitch a perfect game on Sunday. Overlook that walk to Denny Hocking, that double by Kit Pellow.

At furthering the Mets' momentum and igniting their aspirations approaching a two-week hurdle, Tom Terrific was perfect.

The Mets have won nine of their last 12. If they win nine of the next 12, Mr. Met's smile will be even wider.

Oh, the mascot will be happy, too. As happy as general manager Jim Duquette, whose pledge entering the follow-up to two last-place seasons was "meaningful games."

Well, they are here. For the next two weeks, the Mets will exclusively play the Phillies and the Marlins, their division's big boys at the moment.

And is that Jose Reyes on the horizon? The wayward second baseman may actually fall in by the end of this week, if his hamstring holds up for a couple more rehab games at Port St. Lucie.

When Reyes does appear, he could be joining a first-place club. How's that for meaning? Tuesday's win moved the Mets within two games of the NL East's co-leaders, Florida and Philadelphia.

Who cares if it's May. For a couple of years, the only time the Mets could dream of first place was in their sleep.

"Skyrocketing," Cliff Floyd said when asked to characterize the Mets' confidence. "Everyone shows up in the clubhouse every day ready to go."

Everyone shows up in the seats feeling the same. Tuesday night's pumped crowd was vocal, spirited, happy.

"That's the No. 1 reason I came here," said Floyd, who signed with the Mets as a free agent prior to last season, "for the way the fans are right now. They're cheering every pitch, every swing."

They cheered loudest on Stanton's put-away pitch and the Floyd swing that produced a two-run double, both of which followed the game's biggest play.

No, not Piazza's home run or his and Shane Spencer's run-scoring singles in the third or any of Steve Trachsel's season-high 123 pitches.

The night's key moment occured with two outs in the top of the seventh, when Marlon Byrd bounced to third with runners on first and second.

That's when the hot corner became a hot potato for Wigginton. He fielded the simple hopper, drew back his arm for the throw to first -- and had the ball squirt backwards out of his hand.

In a 3-0 game, the bases were loaded, and the chants of "Let's go Mets!" lodged in the fans' throats. The only Mets who went were Trachsel and Wigginton, coincidentally also replaced in a double-switch.

"I had some idea of how the bases got loaded, but my job is to go in and get the starter out of trouble," said Stanton, whose first two pitches to the 5-foot-8 Rollins would've been high to even Tree Rollins.

"I was too pumped up on the first couple of pitches," Stanton said.

The count eventually went full. Stanton unleashed another fastball that sailed high -- but Rollins swung through it.

"Yes, but what made him swing were the three pitches before that," Stanton said. "Down and away, all three."

"That's probably the game, right there," Howe said.

So Stanton made his considerable contribution to the loud night.

"There's a buzz around this place, around the city," said the veteran left-hander. "It's not that someone threw a light switch. We're definitely playing teams more talented than we are, but now we're a team of all battlers."

Howe traces the awakening to Glavine's gem. Not the most recent one. But the one two weeks ago, in Arizona, where he bested Randy Johnson 1-0 -- the first in this 9-3 spree.

"It was a shot in the arm what he did that day," Howe said. "That showed a lot about this club. They definitely believe in themselves now. They believe that they can go out and win every night."

Nine out of the next 12 nights will do. That would elevate this charge above a tease, make it real.

A lot of that would have to come at the expense of the Phillies, a division darling, not a dark horse.

So it is not surprising that their manager dismisses the urgency of the next two weeks, which will find the Phillies playing only the Mets and the Braves.

"Every game you play is big," Larry Bowa said. "They're all important, tough. We've got to grind them all out."

The Phillies will be back at Shea Stadium on Wednesday night, grinding. The Mets will be there, too, battling.

metmagic
05-26-2004, 11:14 AM
LET'S GO METS!! :cheer::cheer::cheer:

AveUguy
05-26-2004, 02:05 PM
The month of May has been 'beddy beddy good" to the Mets, to say the least. Effective May 1st. these guys have been playing outstanding baseball (14-8, .636 WP) and the best part is, it's been a group effort; pitching, hitting and RELIEF, thank you very much.

What a great feeling it is to see them just a couple games out of 1st place. :beer:

metsfan001
05-27-2004, 04:38 PM
WOW!!! I do believe!

Sheafaithful
05-27-2004, 11:18 PM
I ALWAYS believe, ya just never know with this team. :) There have been so many positive articles in Newsday, Daily News even the post :eek: about having faith in this team! It is great!

WilponSTINKS
05-30-2004, 01:21 PM
what a difference a few days makes
this team is showing it's true colors now, once again the pitching the past few years has been good enough to keep us in games but good ole Fred Coupon refuses to add a prime time hitter or 2 to support this good pitching
how does he expect to play meaningful games with a triple A lineup?

metsfan001
05-30-2004, 09:21 PM
We need a big player. :sigh:

Rockin Robin
05-31-2004, 02:03 AM
What, like a Mo Vaughn or Robbie Alomar?? That's not the answer either, Guy.

metsfan001
05-31-2004, 09:45 AM
Well, a first baseman might be a nice start.

WilponSTINKS
05-31-2004, 10:42 AM
im really sorry Rockin Robin but thats the problem with this team, they think adding any big name will do
sure vaughn and alomar were big names but we need big name players who are in their PRIME not comming off a ruptured bicep and weighing in over 300 pounds
as for alomar i can't blame them on that he was a bust, but we all thought we had the steal of the decade there

this team has to look towards adding a big bat who is young and not past 35 and on the downside
every year we come to expect excuses out of wilpon, and this offseason i want to see what type of crap he uses to say why he passed on another young stud while we sign some more yankee retreads

Cyberlibrarian
05-31-2004, 11:14 AM
Yes, we do need a good starting pitcher and a 3RD BASEMAN, but NOBODY BUT NOBODY trades big names in the last week of May. The Yankees are the only team to have made a deal this season, and the best they could do was Tanyon Sturtze. The "usual suspects," such as Pittsburgh or Milwaukee, are at or over .500, so they have no reason to want to trade any of their good players. Plus, at this point of the season, prices are higher than they will be as we approach the July 31st trade deadline.

Wilpon is NOT cheap. He has shown a willingess to spend big bucks on a team. He just needs to find the right players to spend that money on. There is no use comparing the Mets to the Yankees. No use whatsoever, because the Yankees are in their own universe. Nobody in baseball has the financial resources they do. Not even a team that shares their market. Even in the Mets' "glory days," the Yankees had more money.

As for a new first baseman, not on your life. Yes, Piazza is not a great first baseman. But we knew going into the season that this would be a transition year. And, as such, letting Mike "learn by doing" is the only way he'll get better at the position. He is the face of this team and trading him would be almost as big a PR disaster as trading Seaver. Some of you may not remember this, but I do, and it took the Mets YEARS before they recovered from trading Seaver. The only reason they recovered from letting him go after the 1983 season is because Davey Johnson led them to the Promised Land 2 years later. And the group of guys we have now is not a group that will get us there.

WilponSTINKS
06-01-2004, 11:14 AM
im not saying get someone now, im looking towards 2004 offseason
there will be a great amount of talent available and wilpon needs to step up and either get some offense or dismantle the team

there is no way you can continue to rely on and aging Piazza and an injury prone floyd as your 2 biggest bats
and also will Leiter be back and healthy? who knows? will glavine keep pitching well at 38?39?
wilpon keeps finding ways to pass on a good hitter, hell even Jose Guillen would've been a nice addition
but apperently a 2 or 3 year deal was too much , and also it looks as if Guillen is a "cancer" in the anaheim lockeroom, he only is helping them stay around 1st place

Cyberlibrarian
06-01-2004, 12:40 PM
An "aging" Piazza?

Barry Bonds is a couple of years older, and he's doing just fine. Mike is too, especially since he got out from behind the plate.

WilponSTINKS
06-01-2004, 04:26 PM
Bonds is in a world all to his own and hopefully the move to 1st rejuvinates Mikey, he needs to retire as a met
and maybe we can see him with an actual mlb hitter hitting behind him

Cyberlibrarian
06-01-2004, 06:13 PM
JP is, hopefully, going to turn into just that.

But all this talk of "protection" has me wondering. How did Sammy Sosa manage to hit for average with no "protection?"

WilponSTINKS
06-01-2004, 06:27 PM
well i really JP and hopefully he can continue his hot streak and be the hitter we saw last year
as for protection you have a point, but it really helps if there is another hitter who can help the offense especially on this team
man that 99 team was fun to watch

Baseball Guru
06-02-2004, 09:38 PM
Armando Benitez top 10 meltdowns

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By Mark Kelly
ESPN Research


1. World Series, 2000: Game 1 at Yankees
In a memorable Game 1 of the first Subway Series in 44 years, the Mets take a 3-2 lead into the ninth with Armando Benitez on the hill. After getting Jorge Posada to fly out to center, a half-crippled Paul O'Neill has the at-bat of the Series, fouling off multiple two-strike pitches before working out a walk. Benitez then allows back-to-back singles to Luis Polonia and Jose Vizcaino, before a Chuck Knoblauch sacrifice fly ties the game. Derek Jeter strikes out to end the inning, but the Mets lose 4-3 in 12 innings.


2. NLDS, 2000: Game 2 at San Francisco
After watching Al Leiter throw a masterful eight innings, Benitez is brought in to protect a 4-1 lead with Barry Bonds on second and none out in the ninth. After allowing a single to Jeff Kent and getting Ellis Burks to fly to right, J.T. Snow hits the first pinch-hit home run of his career, tying the game and sending Pac Bell park into a frenzy.

3. NLCS, 1999: Game 6 at Atlanta
After pitching a scoreless ninth and watching the Mets go-ahead in the top of the 10th, Benitez allows a game-tying single to Ozzie Guillen. The Braves go on to win the game and advance to the World Series the next inning, when Kenny Rogers walked in the winning run.

4. ALCS, 1996: Game 1 at Yankees
In a moment that made Jeffrey Maier a star, Benitez is summoned in the eighth inning to protect a 4-3 lead. Derek Jeter lofts a fly ball to right that appears to be playable. Just as right-fielder Tony Tarasco reaches up to make the catch, the 12-year-old boy from Old Tappan, N.J. reaches over the right-field wall, pulling the ball into the stands. Right-field umpire Rich Garcia immediately rules the ball a home run, tying the game. The Orioles eventually lose in the 11th inning on a Bernie Williams' homer.

5. ALCS, 1997: Game 2 vs. Cleveland
Coming on in the eighth inning with a 4-2 lead, the right-hander issues two walks, vigorously protesting the second one after it appears pinch-hitter Jim Thome went around on a 3-2 pitch with two outs. Marquis Grissom followed with a three-run shot over the center-field wall, handing Benitez just his second blown save of the season.

6. NLDS, 1999: Game 4 vs. Arizona
After arriving late to Shea Stadium minutes before the National Anthem, Benitez comes on with two out and two on in the eighth, trying to protect a 2-1 Mets' lead. Benitez allows a two-run go-ahead double by Jay Bell, and a single to Matt Williams, but is bailed out when Melvin Mora throws out Bell at the plate to end the inning.

7. Sept. 23, 2001 vs. Atlanta
After being 13½ games back on Aug. 18, the Mets go 22-5 over the next 27 games to move within 3½ games with a chance to inch a closer as Benitez enters in the ninth inning with a 4-1 lead over first-place Atlanta. After allowing a lead-off walk, Benitez settles down to retire the next two batters. Brian Jordan's two-run homer cuts the lead to one, and after allowing a walk to pinch-hitter Dave Martinez and a single to Andruw Jones, B.J. Surhoff ties the game with a single. The Braves go on to win the game in 11th inning on Jordan's second home run of the game.

8. Sept. 29, 2001 at Atlanta
After surviving the meltdown of a week earlier, the Mets rally to win three of the next four games and have a chance to pull within three games. New York takes a 5-1 lead into the ninth. After a lead-off walk and a strikeout, Javy Lopez singled in Andruw Jones to cut the lead to 5-2. Benitez then gets Dave Martinez to ground out and was again one out from victory. Benitez then allowed a walk and a two-run double to Marcus Giles before being replaced by John Franco, who after walking two, allowed a game-winning grand slam to Brian Jordan.

9. June 22, 2003 vs. Yankees
Suffering through a miserable season, the Mets hope to provide a bright spot by defeating their crosstown rivals. Jason Phillips' two-out RBI single gives the Mets a 3-2 lead heading into the ninth inning. After allowing a lead-off walk to Jason Giambi, Benitez gets Raul Mondesi and Todd Zeile to fly out sandwiched around a Hideki Matsui walk. Benitez then walks pinch-hitter Ruben Sierra on four pitches to load the bases. The Mets closer then goes to a full count on pinch-hitter Jorge Posada before walking him to tie the game. The Mets would lose the game in 11 innings.

10. June 14, 2002 vs. Yankees
The Mets take a 2-1 lead into the ninth in a series-opening game against the Yankees. After striking out Shane Spencer, Benitez allows a ground-rule double to Marcus Thames. Benitez then gets Alfonso Soriano on a deep fly to left and needed one more out to preserve the win. Derek Jeter steps to the plate 0-for-7 with six strikeouts lifetime against Benitez, but singles to center to tie the game. Adding insult to injury, former Met Robin Ventura's two-run homer in the 10th gives the Yankees the win.

Cyberlibrarian
06-02-2004, 11:19 PM
Uh oh. Don't let Baystatebabe see that. :no:

Sheafaithful
06-02-2004, 11:39 PM
proves that he was horrible in big games!

CitySkyline
06-03-2004, 12:22 AM
Uggh! Just reading those brought back a lot of ugly memories!

Especially painful are the two games in 2001 when the Mets were "this" close to catching the Braves! AAUGGGHHH!!!!

(ok, they're ALL pretty painful!)