VLADIMIR GUERERRO

[WilponSTINKS]

where would the mets be with him right now

[SlushyBOB]

SSSSHHHHHH, he's where he should be!

[Liter22]

With a player on the 60 day with a back problem?

[SlushyBOB]

No, he's the guy who got 9 RBI's last night!

[Cyberlibrarian]

Let me say this for the 5,000th time. :hmm:

Vladimir Guerrero did NOT want to play in NY. We heard it all last year when the subject came up. We heard it from a variety of different sources. He doesn't have the right temperament to play here. Not everyone does. Alomar doesn't. Ed Whitson doesn't. Armando Benitez doesn't. Kenny Rogers showed us TWICE that he doesn't.

And, when the Mets made Vlad an offer and HIS PEOPLE NEVER CAME BACK TO THE METS TO NEGOTIATE, that proved to me that, beyond a shadow of a doubt, he NEVER, EVER wanted to be a Met.

It's over. Deal with it.

[WilponSTINKS]

this thing is never going to be over just like the a-rod issue, unless vlad's back goes out sometime during this 5 year stretch, vlad's name will always be mentioned as a shoulda coulda woulda

[Nanner]

Yeah, but........ HE DIDN'T WANT TO COME HERE!

Just like he didn't want to go to Baltimore.

You can only do so much. If a player doesn't want it, he doesn't want it.

If, if, if......... Didn't happen, why keep agonizing over it. :hmm:

[WilponSTINKS]

thats why the mets probably made him that foolish contract offer, but if they knew he wasn't going to come here they should have offered the same deal anaheim did and let him reject the deal so fans like me and thousands of others could sleep without questioning wilpon and his intent

[Cyberlibrarian]

Are you being obtuse on purpose? Don't you see how absolutely ridiculous and what a waste of time it is to whine about something that was never going to happen?

If he REALLY wanted to come here, he'd have come back to the Wilpons and asked them to tweak the offer.

He didn't. Not even for an instant. That says it all, right there.

quod erat demonstrandum


As an aside, that offer was brilliant because it put some of the risk on Vlad himself. I think it's patently unfair that only owners are asked to take on such enormous risks. Players should have a stake, and this offer would have done that.

[patchyfogg]

"Come on, Schadenfreude....."

Let's hope that Jose Guillen and Raul Mondesi goad Vlad into showing off who has the best arm among them, and in the process, make him "Vlad the Inpainer."

[WilponSTINKS]

well whatever i can never get vlad and a-rod out of my head
you are right though it is pointless and a waste of time for me to keep harping over things that are in the past
but history repeats itself and if wilpon fails to get a good player in his prime this winter something is truly wrong with him and it makes me wish for the days of doubleday.........imagine if doubleday was never here, we'd never have piazza

[Rockin Robin]

"Come on, Schadenfreude....."


:thumbsup:

I wonder if anyone else here gets that. ;)


Yeah, Vlad sure has back problems, and no one should take a chance on him. :hmm:

[Cyberlibrarian]

Robin, this is year one of a 5-year deal. A 5-year GUARANTEED deal. Let's see what happens as the years go by.

Fonzie hit over .300 in his last year as a Met, and less than 2 years later, he's a shadow of his former self.

Don Mattingly had a few outstanding years, but not as many as everyone thought he might have.

Besides, it's all moot anyway because (for the 5,001st time) HE NEVER WANTED TO BE A MET IN THE FIRST PLACE.

We really need to accept this and move on.