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Tarminder
07-23-2004, 01:31 PM
By BEN WALKER, AP Baseball Writer
July 21, 2004

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NEW YORK (AP) -- Fervently anti-war, Carlos Delgado quietly carried out his personal protest this season, refusing to stand when ``God Bless America'' was played at ballparks across the majors.

Most fans never saw him disappearing up the dugout tunnel or staying on the bench. And even teammates who disagreed with the Toronto slugger's political stance accepted his right to call the United States' invasion of Iraq ``the stupidest war ever.''

This week, though, a lot more people noticed.

The Blue Jays played at Yankee Stadium for the first time this year on Wednesday night. It's the only park in the majors where ``God Bless America'' has been played every game since the Sept. 11 attacks, a fiercely patriotic place where active military members are still admitted free.

``I don't think that will be received too well,'' Yankees manager Joe Torre predicted Wednesday before the opener of the two-game series. ``Just when Bob Sheppard starts announcing 'God Bless America,' they start applauding. If you do call attention to that, it won't be popular.''

It sure wasn't.

Delgado was greeted with scattered boos each time he batted -- no telling whether that was related to his off-the-field opinions, or his status as an opposing star.

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But there were brief chants of ``USA! USA!'' when he lined out in the top of the seventh. During a moment of silence before Kate Smith's rendition of ``God Bless America'' was played during the seventh-inning stretch, derisive shouts were made in his direction.

True to form, Delgado was nowhere to be seen. He left the dugout when the last out was made in the top of the seventh, and headed to the clubhouse, and was removed from the game with the Blue Jays trailing by seven runs.

Delgado politely declined to elaborate before Wednesday night's game, though he said he stood by his previous comments. After the 10-3 loss, he deferred when asked about his remarks and the crowd reaction.

``No, I will not talk about it. Is that OK? Thank you,'' he said.

While big leaguers usually come to the top step of the dugout or on to the field to stand in silence during ``God Bless America,'' Delgado does not make a public show of his stance.

In fact, until the first baseman spoke about the issue in early July to the Toronto Star, many people were not aware of how strongly he felt.

``It's a very terrible thing that happened on Sept. 11. It's (also) a terrible thing that happened in Afghanistan and Iraq,'' Delgado said at the time. ``I just feel so sad for the families that lost relatives and loved ones in the war.

``But I think it's the stupidest war ever. Who are you fighting against? You're just getting ambushed now. We have more people dead now after the war than during the war,'' he said. ``I don't support what they do. It's just stupid.''


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Delgado, from Puerto Rico, also opposed the U.S. military's longtime use of the Puerto Rican island of Vieques for weapons testing.

Delgado's opinion became more well known to New York fans in a column in The New York Times on Wednesday. In it, he said, ``It takes a man to stand up for what he believes.''

``I am not pro-war; I'm anti-war,'' he said. ``I'm for peace.''

Commissioner Bud Selig said he understood Delgado's position and that it was a sensitive subject. Selig said he'd like to talk to the Blue Jays' franchise leader in home runs and RBIs about the issue.

Other athletes have taken similar approaches.

NBA guard Mahmoud Abdul-Rauf of the Denver Nuggets would not stand for the national anthem during the 1995-96 season, which led to an indefinite suspension that was lifted two days later.

Division III basketball player Toni Smith of the Manhattanville women's team attracted attention for refusing to face the flag during the national anthem in the 2002-03 season.

Most ballparks generally play ``God Bless America'' on Sunday and holidays, but the Yankees do it at every game. It comes on after Sheppard, the stadium's longtime public-address announcer, reads a remembrance to the people serving in the military.

There was a chance during this series, Delgado realized, that he might make the final out in the top of the seventh and be on the field when the tribute begins.

``This is my personal feeling. I don't want to draw attention to myself or go out of my way to protest,'' Delgado told the Times. ``If I make the last out of the seventh inning, I'll stand there. But I'd rather be in the dugout.''

Blue Jays general manager J.P. Ricciardi said the team has not gotten any reaction from fans about Delgado's position. Team president Paul Godfrey has said he respects Delgado's opinion but opposes his political view.

Standing in the box seats, Yankees fan Barry Phillips disagreed with Delgado, but said he would not boo him.

``I think it's totally disrespectful,'' he said shortly before gametime. ``It's a slap directly in my face, as a New Yorker and an American.''

renuszm
07-23-2004, 03:09 PM
Who cares. Everyone keeps talking about ow Delgado is doing this for attention, if he was doing this for attention you'd think that he wouldn't of walked into the dugout and said nothing. He didnt do anything wrong, he just disagrees with the War in Iraq. It's not like GBA is the National Anthem either.

Durango53
07-23-2004, 04:31 PM
The thing is Ren is that GBA has nothing to do with war, the prez who you vote for or anything along those lines.

It has to do with this country that is giving him a chance to live out his dream, to make a great living playing a game, (yes I know he plays in Cananda but he is playing a sport where most of the games are played in the US)
and most people remember why they started to sing this song. It was started after 9-11. That is why he is being booed and everything.

Sure he might be against the war that is fine that is his right he can do it. But this song has to do about a land that is great and many people here love very much.

renuszm
07-23-2004, 07:58 PM
Durango, look at a line from the song:

Let us swear allegiance to a land that's free

This song is about allegiance. And Delgado feels like he doesent need to swear allegiance because he doesent agree with its action. He is not American, he was born in Puerto Rico, and he plays in Canada. He doesent agree with wat America is doing right now, it is his opinion and he is aloud to show it. It shouldnt be a big deal really, like I said before, it isnt a rule to stand for GBA , and IMO doesent need to be played, but thats a different story. Hell if I wrote a song called "God Bless the Maple Leaf" I bet Americans wouldnt stand for it either because they dont need to since they arent Canadian. I know Durango from your post on Memorial Day I think it was, that you are big on American pride and for the people that have served the country, so this post probably doesent mean that much to you, but I'm sure Delgado could relate to it a little more.

~*TiGeRs f@N*~
07-23-2004, 08:55 PM
I believe that Carlos stading up for what he believes in is a right as a human being and it doesn't matter if he how he protests. He's being peaceful, he's not trying to persuade anyone else to do the same thing, and he's trying to be quiet about it, whats the big deal? It's not like he's disrespecting, the flag, the national anthem, or the country. He's never said anything disrespectful about the states either, so I really don't see what the big deal is

Chisox73
07-23-2004, 11:17 PM
The only thing that's making this a big deal IMO is that this was happening in New York.If it was happening in say Cleveland,or Oakland,there would not be any notice of this.

renuszm
07-24-2004, 03:02 PM
The only thing that's making this a big deal IMO is that this was happening in New York.If it was happening in say Cleveland,or Oakland,there would not be any notice of this.
This is true, as the person that wrote the article was from a New York newspaper.

oli500
07-30-2004, 01:09 AM
I dont know about you guys but I think after reading this article, the reason Delgado did not want to waive his no trade clause is because he dosent want to go play in the United-states. He wants to stay here in Canada. At least thats the felling I have.

Standing in the box seats, Yankees fan Barry Phillips disagreed with Delgado, but said he would not boo him. I think it's totally disrespectful,'' he said shortly before gametime. ``It's a slap directly in my face, as a New Yorker and an American.''


I dont want to turn this into a debate but I never really understode why some americains are allways so insulted when other people from other countries like delgado disagree with some of there politics. IMO everyone has there rights of opinions. As a Canadien I am also againts the war in Iraq and strongly oposse to it. If I were a ball player like Delgado I personally would do the same. Its just my opinion.

renuszm
07-30-2004, 02:26 AM
Delgado didnt want to waive his no-trade clause because of his family, so yes he did want to stay in Canada

Tarminder
08-06-2004, 08:32 PM
i agree with oli500 ...he doesnt wanna play in the us...and good for him.