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Blue56
07-29-2004, 10:33 AM
The Arizona Republic says that the Diamondbacks could try to entice catching prospect Kelly Shoppach from the Red Sox for Danny Bautista.

Thats from www.Rotoworld.com

I don't think Boston should even think about trading Shoppach for danny!!!

I Are Baboon
07-29-2004, 10:36 AM
The Red Sox are not going to trade away Shoppach.

rockin500
07-29-2004, 10:42 AM
especially not for bautista. unless theo is smoking some crack.

I Are Baboon
07-29-2004, 10:44 AM
Nearly every trade that gets mentioned, Shoppach is wanted by the other team. It's not going to happen. I think the Sox would trade Tek before they trade Shoppach.

Blue56
07-29-2004, 10:46 AM
2 Days 6 Hours and 9 minutes left

Blue56
07-29-2004, 10:47 AM
Here's from "the Buzz"

BUZZ FACTOR -- Medium: The Providence Journal reported Thursday that the Red Sox reached a dead end in their talks with the D-Backs about Bautista, determining the price was too high.

Blue56
07-29-2004, 10:50 AM
Here are the sox interests today from the buzz:

Victor Zambrano
Doug Mientkiewicz
MAtt Clement

Thedatch
07-29-2004, 11:01 AM
cubs will never give away zambrano. hes one of the best.

mietkievich is going to another team, cant remember which one...

nomar for matt clement seems like a dead end

Durango53
07-29-2004, 12:04 PM
mietkievich is going to another team, cant remember which one...

He isnt going anywhere so far. So far every team that has wanted him the Twins said no.

Thedatch
07-29-2004, 12:08 PM
oh...i thought they had a trade going

rockin500
07-29-2004, 12:17 PM
datch, victor zambrano is the guy on the devil rays.

but matt clement wont be traded either. Jim Hendry will not trade one of his main rotation guys unless they were getting both nomar and manny. ;)

Thedatch
07-29-2004, 12:23 PM
datch, victor zambrano is the guy on the devil rays.

but matt clement wont be traded either. Jim Hendry will not trade one of his main rotation guys unless they were getting both nomar and manny. ;)

what? so who is the guy for the cubs then? i thought that was zambrano...im confused now... :notme:

rockin500
07-29-2004, 12:31 PM
carlos zambrano is the cubs zambrano

I Are Baboon
07-29-2004, 12:32 PM
datch, victor zambrano is the guy on the devil rays.

I was wondering what the hell these guys were talking, but figured I was just stupid. :laff:

Thedatch
07-29-2004, 12:35 PM
carlos zambrano is the cubs zambrano


ohh, ok, so i wasnt wrong, i knew there was a zambrano on the cubs! bwahahaha. who the hell is victor zambrano?? :D any good?

rockin500
07-29-2004, 12:45 PM
he's pretty solid but he walks a whole effin lot of batters. i think on average of like 4 a start?

on the devil rays, he's their "ace", on the cubs he would be in the bullpen behind even glendon rusch. on the red sox, i would rank him in the derek lowe area.

Thedatch
07-29-2004, 12:48 PM
well, we need help, and he's young right? so he can probly eat up a lotta innings. depends who we give i guess

PissedPrincess
07-29-2004, 01:00 PM
My understanding is the Cubs would trade Clement in a heartbeat for Nomah, but the Sox will NOT trade Nomah.

I'm not sure I would either.

Thedatch
07-29-2004, 01:05 PM
well, he's not coming back next year...might as well get someone for him! for christ sake, we've been playing .500 ball for the past 3 months now! why would this team all of a sudden turn arond? it hasnt the past 3 months. trade nomar, lowe, and maybe varitek if it looks like you arent gonna be able to resign him. get some quality players and START AGAIN

rockin500
07-29-2004, 01:14 PM
no, the understanding is that they WONT trade clement. the sox would take that deal in a heartbeat as they need pitching desperately.

if the cubs arent willing to give up prospects, why would they give up their most consistent starter this year?

hendry does not make blockbuster deals. thats not his way.

rowdyBostonfan
07-29-2004, 01:16 PM
make the damn trade Nomar is doing squat. its either strike out or fly out everytime he comes to bat with runners on and I predict it!!! He is so pathetic!!!

PissedPrincess
07-29-2004, 01:16 PM
I guess the spin is different in both cities.

Thedatch
07-29-2004, 01:21 PM
did ya see nomar last night? 1st pitch, guess what he did...popped up in foul ground to 1st base. happens all the freakin time

rockin500
07-29-2004, 01:33 PM
we have too many batters who do that anyways. :cool:

rockin500
07-29-2004, 01:34 PM
http://www.suntimes.com/output/cubs/cst-spt-kiley29.html

that should give a bit of a headsup.

Thedatch
07-29-2004, 01:35 PM
they may pop out, but never so often on the first pitch as nomar does. he may have a great average on the first pitch, but never when it counts.

dump him, get verizon. or matt clement

Thedatch
07-29-2004, 01:39 PM
rockin, would you make the trade? nomar for clement?

rockin500
07-29-2004, 01:43 PM
hell no. the cubs are built on pitching. they will go only as far as their pitching. one bat wont change that.

the first big rule is you never trade good starting pitching for a good bat if its a straight up deal.

Thedatch
07-29-2004, 01:44 PM
true, true. makes snese. what would you give us for nomar then?

rockin500
07-29-2004, 01:48 PM
I'd give two prospects and Alex Gonzalez.

fact is, i wouldnt mind Nomar, but i'm not overly in love with him.

PissedPrincess
07-29-2004, 01:50 PM
Kids, face it. Neither the Cubs, nor the Sox will be in the playoffs this year. Who cares? :(

Thedatch
07-29-2004, 01:51 PM
lol, neither am i my friend...thats why were giving him away ;)

Blue56
07-29-2004, 02:58 PM
Victor Zambrano is a decent 3rd starter! He's good.

rowdyBostonfan
07-29-2004, 11:01 PM
Kids, face it. Neither the Cubs, nor the Sox will be in the playoffs this year. Who cares? :(

I care damit!!! I care!!!

Blue56
07-29-2004, 11:17 PM
They better make the playoff's...or else!

rockin500
07-29-2004, 11:32 PM
I care damit!!! I care!!!


the cubs keep reeling me in every time i am ready to bail. its crazy