Yankees Pitching Status

[skippy]

OK.... with Mike Mussina out, and Kevin Brown seemingly been out forever, the yankees have managed to pull off the 2nd best record in baseball. When the Yankees have everyone healthy, and pitching their potential (yes, YOU, Contreras) I believe they will be an unbelievable team... most of our games the offense is great, but the pitching is very bad, causing us losses...

I realize everyone loses games, but there are, I think, about 10-15 games we should have had, but bad pitching faltered...

If all this works out... then RJ is definitely not needed, but I'm not gonna make another thread on him :naughty:

I'm talking pitching status, what are your predictions of how the year will turn out?

[PissedPrincess]

The Yankees will not get out of the ALCS. Fact. :)

[I Are Baboon]

and Kevin Brown seemingly been out forever

No one EVER would have predicted that when the season started. Shocking!

:devillol

[cxlx]

They way I see it, is the pitching staff is in a whole lot of trouble. You guys were lucky when the injuries first started cuz the pen is so solid. But Rivera and Gordon is #1 and 2 for the most inning's pitched by a reliever. They cant hold the load anymore, that is why the pen is blowing up as of late. Even if they come back healthy, they dont have alot of time to get their groove back. Better hope for a miracle.

[rockin500]

the yankees have no bullpen left. they have what two good starters right now? they are toast.

[PissedPrincess]

They're not that bad guys. Actually, their offense is good enough to beat most teams. They may get lucky. The only team that can beat them really is us. If we don't make the playoffs, they'll coast to the WS before they lose.

[cxlx]

They're not that bad guys. Actually, their offense is good enough to beat most teams. They may get lucky. The only team that can beat them really is us. If we don't make the playoffs, they'll coast to the WS before they lose.

No we're just talking about the pen. Kinda reminds me of the 2003 Sox, all offense. And you see how far that got us. ;)

[I Are Baboon]

Do you guys think Big Fat George will sit around and do nothing if the playoffs are looming and the pitching staff needs help? Neither do I.

[PissedPrincess]

Which is why RJ the selfish prick will be a Yank.

[Thedatch]

how many days? 2 days to go right? anything can happen, lets just wait and see, shall we? all this maybe this and i might that is making me nauscious

[Blue56]

Yanks will Get Benson and another starter, but they won't get Johnson!

[Kiwideus]

Cashman and Boss are working 24/7 and we will wait and see what happens.

all i can say, the Yankees really need a miracle! :Pray:

[milky_way]

Right now I think the pitching sucks. But it's July. If the staff is this disorganized in September I'll be worried. Mussina and Brown have both battled injuries, and there's still a lot of time for them to get healthy. And Brown may start on Friday. Mussina is the one I'm really concerned with, since I haven't heard of any timetable for him.

The pen is also a huge concern. I've officially GIVEN UP on Steve Setback Karsay, so I think another reliever (ANYONE BUT FELIX HEREDIA) would be a HUGE acquisition. But more than that, Torre can't keep pitching Quantrill, Gordon, and Rivera in blowouts. He's done this several times this season, and it's completely moronic. Pitch Prinz, Padilla, and whatever crap we have in the back of the bullpen. Just stop pitching the top three in 3+ run games. I think it's critical that the Yanks clinch as soon as possible; that way Quantrill, Gordon, and Rivera can get some rest at the end of the season.

And maybe I'm just disillusioned, but the only team that concerns me in the AL is Boston. And they might not even make the playoffs. The NL is a whole different matter.

An interesting thought, the past two World Series champs did not have strong rotations. Anaheim in 02?? Florida last year? And Bob brings up an interesting point: this year's Yanks really are similar to the 03 Red Sox. The thing is, Boston should have won the World Series last year, at least IMO. I thought they were better than the Yanks, but the Yanks had some crazy luck on thier side in Game 7. In fact recently I've begun to come to the same conclusion that Billy Beane paraded in Moneyball: the playoffs is a crapshoot. It's all about luck and hot streaks. This year the Yanks have gone on streaks when I thought no team could beat them and they've gone on streaks where they looked absolutely pathetic. Hopefully they go on the GOOD kind of streak come October.

[skippy]

It's all about luck and hot streaks. This year the Yanks have gone on streaks when I thought no team could beat them and they've gone on streaks where they looked absolutely pathetic. Hopefully they go on the GOOD kind of streak come October.

and August, and September... and... :wink:

[rockin500]

florida actually did have a good rotation when they decided to pitch well and could stay healthy. their weak link was redman, but brad penny and beckett just had awesome stuff starting in early september. and carl milano had really good stuff as well.

and dontrelle decided to step it up in the WS like he had earlier in the season.

so to call florida's staff not strong does them an extreme injustice.

[milky_way]

The Yankees could have an awesome staff if Brown and Mussina decided to pitch well and could stay healthy. My point was that thier staff wasn't consistently strong throughout the season. Late in the season and in the playoffs they were good, with Beckett especially pitching his brains out in the postseason. As I said before, it's all about hot streaks. If Brown, Vazquez, and Mussina can get on a roll in September, they could have a great postseason too.

[rockin500]

thats certainly true. and i agree with you its all about hot streaks. but if i were you i would be seriously concerned with mussina's health. brown will get healthy eventually, and it was a given that he would be on the shelf at some point.

actually, they should get another reliever as well, because quantrill is going to be a cripple before very long! :eek:

[milky_way]

thats certainly true. and i agree with you its all about hot streaks. but if i were you i would be seriously concerned with mussina's health. brown will get healthy eventually, and it was a given that he would be on the shelf at some point.

actually, they should get another reliever as well, because quantrill is going to be a cripple before very long! :eek:
Yup, I am definitely concerned with Moose. He's been the wild card all year. I expected him to be an Ace and instead he's been inconsistent and injured. If he can get back to his 03 form the Yanks are in tremendous shape. But I don't expect him to...if he can pitch decently (6 IP, 3 ER) by October we'll be alright.

Cashman should definitely be hunting for a reliever. If they can get someone who can actually get an out without giving up a five run homer, then they've made an upgrade over Felix Heredia :D

[skippy]

Cashman should definitely be hunting for a reliever. If they can get someone who can actually get an out without giving up a five run homer, then they've made an upgrade over Felix Heredia :D


a five run homer? when does this happen? or wait, does the first base coach count as a runner on :naughty: :rotf: :lol: hehe

[milky_way]

It's Heredia dude. He makes bad things happen :scared: :evillol

[skippy]

It's Heredia dude. He makes bad things happen :scared: :evillol


he's the opposite of charley faust... it's felix "WTF?!?" heredia!!