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rockin500
08-22-2004, 04:04 PM
wow, oswalt imploded in the 3rd inning and well, ramirez has hit the big blow so far.

was oswalt ejected??

BTW, sammy got robbed. he shoulda got a hit. ronnie said there was no way that 3b coulda got that play.

rockin500
08-22-2004, 04:05 PM
oh barrett cant be too happy with that shot to the back. ouch.

so that was why he was ejected?

rockin500
08-22-2004, 04:12 PM
woody wasnt ejected when he hit his guy cuz the ball bounced and was a slider.

rockin500
08-22-2004, 04:18 PM
whew. kerry wood strikes out kent with the bases loaded.

*breathes a deeeeep sigh of relief*

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08-22-2004, 04:25 PM
Y'all can thank Kent for the 5-run inning more than Lamb or Oswalt. Kent should've held on to the throw from Chavez and Petterson would've been out on the steal. That set the whole mess into motion.

Lamb might have gotten Sosa on the grounder, but it certainly would've been close. I'm more upset that Kent didn't make the easy catch on the steal that wasn't charged an error than I am at Lamb for his misplay.

And it's total bovine excrement that they ejected Oswalt :angry: I am wishing bad things upon ump Bill Hohn and the next 379 generations in his family.

rockin500
08-22-2004, 04:29 PM
oh dont get me wrong, i hope wild dogs maul bill hohn forever too. he's a sorry sack of dungdung

i was still listening on the radio so i didnt see the ball drop. but ron and pat said he was probably safe anyways? and you are right that sosa wouldnt have gotten the RBI, but it woulda been extremely tough to get anyone out cuz sosa can still run pretty well.

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08-22-2004, 04:47 PM
Sosa only runs hard out to RF to stir up the crowd, he loafs everywhere else. :loser:

:jk:

Your dogs are going to get fat chewing on Macias and Hohn. They'll probably spit Hohn out since I'm quite certain he will taste like asshole. :no:

rockin500
08-22-2004, 05:04 PM
errrrr ok, bill hohn just ejected kerry wood. :angry:

ok, it was the 3rd time he hit a batter, but it certainly didnt look intentional. and dusty was ejected. now tell me, willie, why would a guy who is in line for a win delibaretely try to hit a guy? i mean, kerry had been very wild all game...

that just doesnt seem very reasonable! :notme:

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08-22-2004, 05:10 PM
Alan Ashby is talking about just that on the radio call right now, Ray. He's defending Wood, that there's no way he's intentionally trying to hit people and put runners on with a 10-2 lead!

The really crummy part of this is at least Wood was given a warning. Oswalt got nothing and was ejected. This whole deal about warnings and allowing an umpire to decide if a pitch was on purpose, it's just a boondoggle waiting to happen.

rockin500
08-22-2004, 05:10 PM
willie, at least someone is still playing hard. berkman slid in hard to try to break a DP. didnt work, but i love to see that play done cleanly like lance did. :)

rockin500
08-22-2004, 05:11 PM
not to mention its hohn, so does that make it a double boondoggle?

rockin500
08-22-2004, 05:12 PM
edit: it was mike lamb doing the breaking up. lol my bad!

rockin500
08-22-2004, 06:37 PM
cubs end up winning 11-6.

of course farnsworth had to get 2 K's, 2 hits and a homer in the ninth. lol

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08-22-2004, 06:45 PM
Well, I know you're happy with the win and taking the series 2 out of 3, Ray. But that was about as ugly as they can get from my angle. It's sort of like a microcosm of the Astros season: I'm keyed up for a Wood-Oswalt matchup, and then it just turns ugly with bad pitching, bad defense, not getting a big hit that could've put us back in it early on, pretty much leaving me thoroughly disappointed in the end.

:bball:

rockin500
08-22-2004, 11:43 PM
both pitchers were bitter about the ejections.

but willie, did you hear what hohn said to kerry? I know you didnt hit him on purpose but i gotta toss ya anyways.

and bagwell basically said that oswalt deserved to be tossed, and wood didnt even on the third one. Michael Barrett thinks that Hohn did the right thing all around and that wood shoulda been tossed just to keep the peace.

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08-23-2004, 03:05 PM
First off, Bagwell should keep his pie hole shut. The man's on my poo-poo list for coming out and saying something like that about a teammate to the media.

Secondly, I find it difficult to believe that Hohn really can read both Oswalt's and Wood's minds. Roy says he wasn't trying to hit, didn't say he wasn't trying to come in on him, but says he wasn't trying to hit him. When Sosa said he didn't know he was using a corked bat last year, I believed him. I have no reason to think he's lying. I'm treating Oswalt the same way: Until he says something about trying to hit Barrett in the back, I'm going to accept him at his word that he wasn't trying to hit him.

Bottom line, Oswalt should not have been ejected at that point. If he had hit Ramirez the next time up, maybe then since that's the guy who took him deep. Maybe then I'd be inclined to think something was really up. But you let the game, and the players, police themselves instead of putting it into some judgment call for these umpires. When Wood hits someone, then you go out and give a warning to both benches that if any pitcher even looks cross-eyed at a batter, him and the manager are gone.

Now, chew on this for a while: What are you going to do this next weekend when Oswalt takes one close to the chin or in the back? Are you going to expect the umps to eject, without any warnings, the Chicago pitcher? Or are we going to let Bill Hohn read that Cub pitcher's mind and decide it was just an accident?

rockin500
08-23-2004, 03:19 PM
damn that hohn! and damned that stupid rule! :bonehead

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08-23-2004, 03:40 PM
At least we can agree on Hohn and the equally stupid rule! :D



:bonehead: