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Baseball Guru
01-02-2005, 02:28 PM
http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=1957092&CMP=OTC-DT9705204233

ESPN.com news services
The New York Mets, invigorated by the signing of Pedro Martinez, are making another aggressive push at a highly-prized free agent, All-Star center fielder Carlos Beltran.



General manager Omar Minaya and other team officials plan to fly to Puerto Rico on Tuesday to lure the slugger to New York, according to a Newsday report. On Monday, Minaya will meet with Beltran's agent, Scott Boras, in New York to begin contract negotiations.


One selling point the Mets will stress, the report cited, is the tremendous marketing potential Beltran will enjoy as the city's newest Hispanic star. The Mets also plan on making Beltran and Martinez the featured faces of the organization, hoping to attract more free agents to Shea Stadium.


Ultimately, it may come down to money. The Houston Astros reportedly have an offer of six years, $96 million on the table, and Boras reportedly has made it known the starting point for further talks is at least seven years and $112 million.


Beltran met with New York Yankees owner George Steinbrenner last week and left impressed.


"The meeting with Steinbrenner was very good," Beltran said in a story published in Friday's edition of Primera Hora newspaper. "He is a professional person, super-educated. I've let them know my interest, and they have interest, too, about me joining their team."


While it has been assumed the Yankees would simply top the highest bid, that might not be the case.

According to the New York Post, a $15 million salary would wind up costing the Yankees $21 million when the 2005 luxury tax is factored in, and even Steinbrenner might begin to feel the financial crunch at some point.


Beltran batted .417 in the NL championship series for the Astros with four home runs, five RBI and four steals after hitting .455 with four homers and nine RBI in the division series. If Houston doesn't reach an agreement by Jan. 8, the Astros would be ineligible to re-sign him until May 1.




"As a baseball player, I want to be treated fairly -- based on what I've done in my career," Beltran said. "Of course, the opportunity to win is bigger than the economic thing. I want to be part of a winning team. I will consider every team."


Information from The Associated Press was used in this report.

Rockin Robin
01-02-2005, 04:55 PM
Could the Mets possibly get someone that Georgie Boy is interested in?? I'd tend to doubt it. But it certainly would be nice.

Since Georgie got Tino back, is it safe to assume he won't participate in the Delgado party?? We shall see.

Could you imagine if the Mets got both Beltran and Delgado?? I'm all atingle at the possiblitily, no matter how remote.

barzilla
01-03-2005, 08:53 PM
The Mets have reportedly offered 8 years and 120 million. If that is true then the Astros will drop out of the bidding almost certainly.

Baseball Guru
01-03-2005, 11:53 PM
:eek:

Holy Shit!!!

That is an incredible contract!!!

If true he may actually be a Met!!!

barzilla
01-04-2005, 12:06 AM
Go ahead and take em James. That is way too rich for my blood.

Baseball Guru
01-04-2005, 09:10 AM
Not my money so I wont lose sleep;)

heehee:D

It is a lot of money... What is suprising to me more than the money is the length of the contract... 8 years is an eternity in baseball...

Baseball Guru
01-04-2005, 09:14 AM
General manager Omar Minaya and other team officials plan to fly to Puerto Rico on Tuesday to lure the slugger to New York.

Make no mistake about it, the Mets are absolutely dead serious on getting Beltran at this point.. One of the other "team officials" was none other than owner Wilpon:eek:

General manager Omar Minaya and owner Fred Wilpon were among those who flew to San Juan to visit with Beltran, agent Scott Boras, and Boras' associate, Mike Fiore. Senior vice president of baseball operations Jim Duquette and special assistant Tony Bernazard also made the trip.
--Source:ESPN Baseball (http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=1958489&CMP=OTC-DT9705204233)

rockin500
01-04-2005, 09:20 AM
Could the Mets possibly get someone that Georgie Boy is interested in?? I'd tend to doubt it. But it certainly would be nice.

Since Georgie got Tino back, is it safe to assume he won't participate in the Delgado party?? We shall see.

Could you imagine if the Mets got both Beltran and Delgado?? I'm all atingle at the possiblitily, no matter how remote.
why is everyone assuming that george has any interest in him?

Baseball Guru
01-04-2005, 09:43 AM
why is everyone assuming that george has any interest in him?

He met with George a week or 2 ago in Tampa...

rockin500
01-04-2005, 09:49 AM
He met with George a week or 2 ago in Tampa...
that was a coupla weeks ago and george has showed zero interest in him since then.

barzilla
01-04-2005, 11:32 AM
George has interest in the since that he has interest in every high profile free agent. However, I think his baseball people are winning this debate. They already have a centerfielder and two first baseman. Where does Beltran play? Of course, I had that same question with the Mets. Here's my problem with what the Mets are doing. It reminds me a lot of the Yankees with Arod and Jeter.

Cameron would move to the corner (left or right?). Putting Cameron in left field is the baseball equivalent to telling Michael Vick that he has to stay in the pocket. You take a guy who just might be the most valuable fielder in baseball and tell him to play the least important defensive position (if it is left). This would be fine if Beltran were a better fielder than Cameron, but like I said, Cameron is the most valuable fielder in the game. Moving Cameron is akin to the Yankees taking the two-time Gold Glove winning shortstop (although the legitimacy of those awards is in question) and moving him to third in favor of the worst regular fielding shortstop in the American League (the gold glove award almost caused abdominal dissension on my part).

Like James said, it's not my money. The problem with that line of reasoning is that the Mets are driving the price up for everyone. Their overspending is ruining the entire market and what do they have for it. Even if they get Beltran I'm still not exactly certain that they can even get into second in that division.

rockin500
01-04-2005, 11:45 AM
no one ever said the mets were smart. :D

Baseball Guru
01-04-2005, 11:59 AM
that was a coupla weeks ago and george has showed zero interest in him since then.


He may no longer have interest but the interest was there.. Also the Yanks were concentrating heavily on getting RJ as pitching was more of a need for them....


Even if they get Beltran I'm still not exactly certain that they can even get into second in that division.

Hmmm:
Reyes-SS
Matsui-2B
Beltran-CF
Piazza-C
Floyd-LF
Cameron-RF
Wright-3B
Phillips-1B

Martinez
Glavine
Benson
Trachsel
Zambrano

I kinda like our chances with that lineup and pitching rotation assuming nothing else changes...

Liter22
01-04-2005, 05:05 PM
I think Wright is a way better hitter than Floyd will ever be Jamsey ;). Wright is definatly a better hitter than Matsui for that matter. Then again we are already argueing about the lineup lol.

Liter22
01-04-2005, 05:07 PM
Zilla, I know Cameron is a great fielder and I loved to watching him in CF last year but at points this last season he looked beyond lost out there.

barzilla
01-04-2005, 08:44 PM
Liter,

The fact is that he gets to more balls than every other centerfielder. If you look at his putout totals they are consistently better than every centerfielder in the game. I think I saw a couple of those plays on Sportscenter last year, but I would chalk that up to getting used to his surroundings.

As a Stros fan, there were several instances where I was a bit disappointed in what Beltran got to. Then, there were the amazing plays. I think you have to look at the body of work.

yagsy
01-04-2005, 09:06 PM
I've heard that Cammy moves to Right, that's the latest and Floyd stays in left. So with right field not being the least important outfield position, it might be entertaining. I think Beltran though is gonna have to play more left/center than straight center simply coz Floyd won't be able to get to the balls in left center.