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imgreat95
07-08-2001, 04:13 AM
"Bob Gibson is the luckiest pitcher I've ever seen. He always pitches on the day the other team doesn't score any runs." -- Tim McCarver

There have been few pitchers more intimidating or more dominating than Bob Gibson. His great physical stamina and tremendous concentration gave him an enormous edge enhanced by his willingness to pitch inside and sometimes hit batters. His 1968 season is one of the very best ever turned in by a pitcher, and his stellar World Series performances made him the toughest pitcher in the Fall Classic since Whitey Ford and brought him Hall of Fame election in 1981. With a blazing fastball, darting slider, good curve, and pinpoint control, from 1963 to 1972 Gibson averaged better than 19 wins per season. He struck out more than 200 batters nine times and led the NL four times in shutouts. In 1971 he no-hit the Pirates.

Born in Omaha, Nebraska, Bob was a sickly child who almost died, Gibson was found to have a heart murmur but went on to excel in basketball and baseball in high school. He accepted a basketball scholarship to Creighton University and was the first person inducted into the school's Sports Hall of Fame. In 1957 Bob agreed to sign with the Cardinals for $4,000 and reported to the Omaha farm club. After the baseball campaign was complete, he joined the Harlem Globetrotters for a season. His Omaha manager, Johnny Keane, had great confidence in him, but two trials with the Cardinals had produced a 6-11 record and not much of an impression on the St. Louis manager, Solly Hemus. However, when Keane replaced Hemus in 1961, he put Gibson in the starting rotation to stay. Gibson blossomed in 1963, going 18-9, as the Cardinals contended following the acquisition of fine-fielding shortstop Dick Groat.

Two aspects of Gibson's career demand special mention. In 1968 he pitched 13 shutouts on his way to a 1.12 ERA, the second-lowest since 1893 in 300 innings. During one stretch Gibson allowed only two runs over 92 innings. His strikeouts to innings ratio approached 1.0, while he walked only 62 batters all season. At one point he won fifteen games in succession.

The second area in which Gibson proved phenomenal was World Series play. He won seven consecutive games and pitched eight straight complete games in World Series competition. Only Whitey Ford owns more World Series victories than Gibson, who is also second all-time in WS strikeouts. In the opening match of the 1968 classic, Gibson beat 30-game winner Denny McLain 4-0 and set a Series record by fanning 17 Tigers. His 35 total strikeouts in the 1968 WS were also a record. He won Game Four 10-1, but lost Game Seven 4-1, on two days' rest, to Mickey Lolich. Gibson lost a shutout in the seventh inning when Curt Flood uncharacteristically misjudged a routine fly ball.

Gibson won the clinchers in both the 1964 and 1967 Series. In Game Two of the 1964 Series against the Yankees, he lost 8-3 but kept it close until he was knocked out in the ninth inning. He won Game Five 5-2 in ten innings, taking a shutout into the ninth. Coming back on two days' rest for Game Seven, he won 7-5. In 27 innings, he had 31 strikeouts and a 3.00 ERA. In 1967 he beat Boston's Jose Santiago in the opener, 2-1, and in Game Four, 6-0, and bested Jim Lonborg 7-2 in the finale.

Gibson retired as the winningest pitcher in Cardinals history. He became the second pitcher in history to fan 3,000 batters and also hurled 56 shutouts. His incredible career was accomplished despite a fractured leg (1962), a severely strained elbow (1966), a broken leg (1967), and badly torn ligaments and knee surgery (1973). After struggling through the 1975 campaign on bad legs, Gibson decided in early September that it was time to retire when light-hitting Pete LaCock powered a grand-slam home run off him.

Gibson proved quickly and repeatedly there simply wasn't an element of the game he hadn't mastered. From 1965 to 1973 he won nine consecutive Gold Gloves for fielding excellence. He often helped his cause with the bat, laying down a successful bunt or hitting up the middle. He had 24 regular-season home runs plus a pair in World Series play. In 1970 he batted .303 and was occasionally employed as a pinch hitter.

After serving as former teammate Joe Torre's pitching coach with the Mets and Braves, Gibson returned to St. Louis as a baseball radio commentator and sports show host.

Quotes BY Bob Gibson
"I've played a couple of hundred games of tick-tac-toe with my little daughter and she hasn't beaten me yet. I've always had to win. I've got to win."

"When I gave up a grand slam to Pete LaCock, I knew it was time to quit."

"A great catch is like watching girls go by... the last one you see is always the prettiest."

Quotes About Bob Gibson
"The only thing you know about pitching is that you can't hit it." -- Bob to Tim McCarver

"Bob Gibson pitches as though he's double parked." -- Vin Scully

"It's a shame it had to end that way, but I'm not disappointed. We won." Bob reflecting on the wild pitch that ended his 47 2/3rds consecutive scoreless innings.

"He couldn't pitch today because they wouldn't let him. The way he'd throw inside, he'd be kicked out of the game in the first inning, along with guys like Don Drysdale and Sandy Koufax." -- Red Schoendienst

CAREER STATS

G-528
GS-482
CG-255
W-251
L-174
SHO-56
BB-1336
SO-3117
HR-257
http://www.baseball-reference.com/g/gibsobo01.shtml


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Baseball Guru
07-08-2001, 07:19 AM
Thank you Shawn...Great reading http://forum.addictsports.com/baseball/ubb/biggrin.gif
This guy was AWESOME!!!

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loser69
07-10-2001, 06:03 PM
I got to see him in person and on TV and he was really something!! Being over 40 isn't so bad:)

treasurecoast1
04-09-2004, 11:08 PM
Here's a question: Who do you think was better, Gibson or Marichal?

Until 1968, the consensus was that Marichal was better; after that, it was Gibson.

Marichal suffers from never winning a Cy Young Award, but until 1967, there was only one, and Sandy Koufax usually won it.

Baseball Guru
04-10-2004, 03:26 PM
Good question treasurecoast1....

Both are pretty equal as far as stats go but I think Gibson was the much more dominant pitcher when it came to power and intimidation...

I'd also take Gibson over almost any other pitcher in World Series play.....

Toy Cannon
04-10-2004, 04:24 PM
I give Gibson a slight edge as well, strictly on the intimidation factor. In WS play, I'd be tempted to go with Sandy Koufax, lifetime WS ERA of 0.95 which is unreal.

Speaking of intimidation factors, if J.R. Richard had had a complete career you would be seeing HOF numbers next to his name. He was every bit as intimidating as Gibson with his 6'7" frame and 97 mph fastball. What could have been...

PopTop
04-10-2004, 06:39 PM
"Bob Gibson pitches as though he's double parked." -- Vin Scully

More than Koufax or Drysdale, Gibson was the one pitcher when I was a kid that I really wanted to go see when the Cards would come to Houston. And this quote from Scully really is a great way to try an illustrate the man at work in someone's mind who didn't get to see him pitch. Gibson was like a windmill turning on a bent shaft or that has some bearings missing: His arms would flail, his right leg would wind around, real big guy and all of his fast and wild motion really seemed exaggerated on someone his size. You look at Clemens or Kerry Wood today, power right-handers, but they have fluid motions, far smoother than Gibson's "slinging" action, nothin' pretty at all about it. And he was ready to pitch as soon as he got the ball back from whoever caught him ... Batters that tried to slow him down, stepping in and out of the box, very often found a Gibby hardball coming right at 'em.

I believe Gibson once said that the best way to intimidate or really hurt a batter was to drill them in the ribs. And that's basically the same thing Nolan Ryan once said when he commented he never threw at someone's head, he always aimed for the ribs if he wanted to hit a batter.

treasurecoast1
04-10-2004, 09:31 PM
I don't believe, however, that the adulation about Gibson began until 1968. By that, I mean the idea that he was the best, or even 2nd best pitcher in baseball.

The years Marichal was at his very best, he was second to Koufax. Plus, Marichal's teams finished 2nd to the Dodgers year after year.

Had Dean Chance not posted a 1.65 ERA in 1964, Marichal may well have won the Cy Young Award for the major leagues that year.

Bill James rated Marichal ahead of Gibson in his first Historical Baseball Abstract in the mid '80s, but rated Gibson ahead in the 2000 remake of the book.

And Gibson is probably somewhat ahead of Marichal, on both peak and career value. I just notice, however, that Marichal was considered superior to Gibson while Koufax was active, but Gibson was superior to Marichal from 1968 on. (1967 was a year where Marichal had an off year and Gibson was injured for part of it.)