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pmeares17
07-09-2001, 08:13 PM
i noticed there is so much info out there on pirates players and some of them i have never heard of greats from a long time ago. So i thought i would post stats and stories of some of the old timers on here. I hope someone enjoys it.


Babe Adams
Years as a Buc: 1907, 1909-1916, 1918-1926; Pitcher
Total ML seasons: 19 seasons; he started his career (1906) in St Louis and then spent the rest of his career with the Bucs. He sat out the 1908 and 1917 seasons.
Career Highlights: Adams was 194-140 lifetime, with a 2.76 ERA. He twice led the league in Shutouts with 7 in 1911 and 8 in 1920. Adams was known for his exceptional control. He is near the top of the team's All-Time pitching list in Games, Innings Pitched, Wins, Strikeouts, and Complete Games He leads the team list with 47 Shutouts.
Best Year: In 1911, Adams started 37 games and completed 24; he went 22-12 with a 2.33 ERA, pitched 293.1 innings, struck out 133 and walked 42. In 1913, Adams started 37 games and completed 24 (again); he went 21-10 with a 2.15 ERA, pitched 313.2 innings, struck out 144 and walked 49.
Fan Remembrances: Babe Adams was 3-0 in the 1909 World Series versus the Detroit Tigers. He pitched 27 innings (3 complete games), giving up only 18 hits and 6 walks, while striking out 11 and compiling a 1.33 Series ERA. Adams was a rookie that year.
Chuck Blahous wrote: Babe Adams is another favorite of mine. He's thought of as a rookie who came out of nowhere to win 3 games in the 1909 Series, but in reality he sustained a very high level of performance for quite a few years, and has stats which are notable for the very small number of baserunners he yielded per 9 innings.

Mike Emeigh wrote: Adams is an interesting case. He pitched quite well for the Pirates for several years after the 1909 WS. In early 1914, he hooked up in a 21-inning game with Rube Marquard of the Giants, which apparently took a lot out of him, and the team, which was near the top of the NL at the time, quickly crashed to 7th place. Adams didn't fully recover, and was released by the Bucs in 1916. After sitting out a couple of years, he was resigned by the team and returned to pitch well for several years in the early '20s. He was considered a *good-luck* charm by the Bucs' owner, Barney Dreyfuss, and was resigned in 1925 and 1926 although in his 40s to pitch in limited roles. He was released in 1926 following his involvement in a player revolt against coach/VP/assistant manager Fred Clarke, in which he suggested that the manager is the manager, and no one else (e.g. Clarke) should interfere with his authority over the team. His comment at the time was *I've been in baseball 18 years without opening my mouth, and then when I answer a question, I find myself chucked off the club.* imagine if players would still be fired for shooting off there mouths there would not be much of a bucs team :eviltongu

pmeares17
07-13-2001, 12:13 AM
nobodys interesting in who babe adams was? shoosh ;) :eviltongu

Jimbo21
07-13-2001, 02:07 PM
... and you will find that baseball history is rich in Pirate lore...

It isn't that people aren't interested, it is just that way when you talk about players that are long gone and forgotten. For some reason, unless history is your interest, they just become a name and a set of stats...

pmeares17
07-13-2001, 02:16 PM
yeah theres so much history out there about the bucs. :) so many guys who were amazing that no one knows about i guess the negro leagues come to mind also. I also think there are some players who for there accomplishments do not deserve to be forgotten. like sam leever In 1903, he went 25-7 with a league leading 2.06 ERA and led the league with 7 Shutouts. He completed 30 of the 34 games he started, while pitching 284.1 innings. OH well i will keep posting it at least you seem to appreciate it :).

3-2 Changeup
07-13-2001, 06:09 PM
PM, I enjoyed your post. Any dope on guys like Smoky Burgess or Arky Vaughn?

pmeares17
07-13-2001, 06:11 PM
i have some things on them i would be glad to post :D:D:D.

imgreat95
07-13-2001, 06:28 PM
pmeares... one thing i have learned when posting bios that i have written on certain players is that just because someone doesn't reply does not mean that they did not enjoy it. I did a bio on rube waddell at HB that took me most of 3 days to finish, and i did not get even ONE reply to it.... but it did not discourage me, because at least I enjoyed reading it.

pmeares17
07-13-2001, 06:39 PM
thanks for the insight. :) i didnt know anyone had seen it since there wasnt many people here when i posted it.....

Baseball Guru
07-13-2001, 07:11 PM
Shawn is right Jesse.....
That is great stuff you have dug up...I will help you try to find other interesting Pirates...Jimbo is right about Pirate history being great and long....
I am a baseball history buff so I appreciate this kind of stuff....

pmeares17
07-13-2001, 07:16 PM
you are a history mod somewhere so im sure you know the sources :)