View Full Version : I'm So F*CKING SICK OF SID!
Nanner
07-17-2005, 07:38 PM
:Pissed: :bonehead :gripe:
:loser: :loser: :loser:
HE IS SUCH A FREAKIN' LOSER!!!! I WISH HE WERE GONE!!! SOMEBODY.......... ANYBODY.......... TAKE HIM!!!
5.2 freakin' innings, 5 earned runs, 3 walks.
AND TAKE FREAKIN' STEVE KLINE WITH YOU, FATSO!!! :loser:
He just gave up a homerun in the 8th, so the score is now 8-1.
Great. We're not getting to the post season with these losers on the team.
I'm so pissed. :angry:
Baseball Guru
07-17-2005, 08:48 PM
:yikes:
Nanner
07-17-2005, 09:16 PM
The guy's a loser and I can't wait to see his fat ass going out the door......... off the team........... and dragging the whacko Steve Kline with him.
:Pissed:
(I'm sorta over the two of them. Can you tell?)
It's half way through the season and we're officially in a penant race. We can't afford to have any losers on the team. Steve Kline can't get his head together, and, apparently, Sid can't get anything together.
Grrrrrrrrr............ :gripe:
Nanner
07-17-2005, 09:17 PM
But thanks for dropping by, James. :wave1:
:D
rockin500
07-18-2005, 10:02 AM
is this the weekly i hate sid thread? :D
Nanner
07-18-2005, 10:17 AM
Yes, it is, Ray........ because he stinks weekly......... everytime he comes up in the rotation. :gripe:
Apparently, yesterday's game wasn't all his fault. It started falling apart in the 6th, with a wild pick-off throw from Sal Fasano. 3 errors and the fact that they couldn't seem to score anybody yesterday didn't help. But a pitcher should be able to regroup and handle that....... and Sid falls apart with stuff like that. His game just unraveled.
He's a freakin' loser. :angry:
I would KILL for A.J. Burnett.
Here's a recap of the game, with some pertinent sentences highlighted.
Ponson unravels in 6th, leaves O's on ropes, 8-2
Mariners score 5 in inning; Orioles slip back to third
By Roch Kubatko
Sun Staff
Originally published July 18, 2005
SEATTLE - What began as a positive start for Orioles pitcher Sidney Ponson, one worth talking about if he hadn't gone mute with the media, dissolved into another loss yesterday. Cheap hits, mental lapses from his defense, rotten luck. That's usually enough to make anyone bite his tongue.
Taking a shutout into the sixth inning, Ponson allowed five runs and never got the last out. He dropped below .500 as the Orioles were tumbling into third place in the American League East with an 8-2 loss to the Seattle Mariners at Safeco Field.
The Orioles are returning to a five-man rotation tonight with Erik Bedard's activation from the disabled list. It's anybody's guess when Ponson will begin contributing to it again.
Ponson (7-8) hasn't won in four weeks, making him the team's only starter with a losing record. He lasted 5 2/3 innings, the fourth time in five games that he has failed to complete six. He has allowed four runs or more on 14 occasions this season, five or more on seven.
Yesterday seemed like a good time to break out of his funk, but the Mariners sent 10 batters to the plate in the sixth inning and handed the Orioles (49-42) their second straight loss, leaving them a half game behind the New York Yankees for second place.
"Right now we're playing a couple good games, a couple bad games," second baseman Brian Roberts said. "And we've got to turn that around."
Catcher Miguel Olivo singled to lead off the sixth, the beginning of Ponson's downfall. He stole second base, took third on catcher Sal Fasano's throwing error and scored the tying run on Ichiro Suzuki's fly ball.
Ponson hit Randy Winn, walked Raul Ibanez and allowed a single to Richie Sexson on a grounder up the middle that gave Seattle a 2-1 lead.
Sexson took second on the throw, setting up an intentional walk. After a strikeout, rookie Mike Morse blooped a two-run single into right-center field. Jose Lopez doubled down the left-field line, another ball collecting dirt and eluding a glove, and Ponson left with a 5-1 deficit.
"I thought he threw fine," manager Lee Mazzilli said. "I don't think we played extremely well, though, giving them the extra base at times when we didn't need to do that. And when we had guys on and needed to get them over, we didn't do it. That all adds up."
Olivo didn't have a stolen base before yesterday. He got such a big jump on Ponson, Roberts and shortstop Miguel Tejada conceded the steal.
Fasano would have been wise to do the same, but he tried throwing from his knees and the ball sailed into center field before Tejada could get to it.
"[Olivo] got a running start," Mazzilli said. "There's nothing Sal could do on that play other than eat the ball."
That's exactly what Tejada and Roberts figured would happen.
"We both kind of thought Sal was going to hold the ball," Roberts said. "[Olivo] had a pretty good jump, and I think everybody just kind of froze."
Said Fasano: "I decided to throw from my knees and then I realized Miggy wasn't there. What can you do? You have to throw the ball regardless. But that was a bad part. That's really what started the landslide."
Ponson had held the Mariners to two hits over five innings before his start unraveled. He took a few deep breaths as Mazzilli reached for the ball, then walked to the dugout with his glove in one hand and his cap in the other. Neither his glove nor cap was slammed to the ground, though his frustration would have been understandable.
"They led off with an innocent hit, steal second and nobody's there, and it was all downhill from there," Roberts said.
The Orioles took a 1-0 lead in the second on Rafael Palmeiro's 567th career home run. They didn't score again until the ninth, on pinch hitter Eli Marrero's sacrifice fly. Over the past two games, they are 1-for-23 with runners in scoring position. :eek:
"We had our opportunities, there's no question," Mazzilli said.
Three errors and two wild pitches helped bring down the Orioles, who continue to trail the first-place Boston Red Sox by one game.
"Every play that you have in a pennant race is going to have a consequence," Mazzilli said, "so we just have to be aware of it."
Todd Williams was charged with two unearned runs in the seventh, and Olivo homered off Steve Kline in the eighth. Kline also allowed an inherited runner to score on Jeremy Reed's single.
"I'm just picking up where I left off," Kline said. "I've never given up this many home runs in my life. I've never walked this many guys. I've never had trouble against lefties. ... I just stink."
The Orioles would like to move Ponson and Kline, but a team official indicated that interest from other teams is scarce. Only one of them is talking now. Who knows when they'll begin silencing their critics.
Copyright © 2005, The Baltimore Sun
Blue56
07-18-2005, 10:29 AM
I don't know what happened with Steve Kline, he was great years before.
Nanner
07-18-2005, 10:33 AM
I don't know what happened with Steve Kline, he was great years before.
Well, he sucks now, Blue. :angry: And he wants out of Baltimore, according to stuff he's said, and according to rumor, which I normally never listen to, but........ hey, he's unhappy? Orioles' fans are unhappy. If he can do better somewhere else, fine. I hope they get rid of him, but with his numbers this season, who would want him? :notme:
Nanner
07-18-2005, 10:40 AM
Well, Peter Schmuck is saying exactly what I've been thinking.
Ponson continues to fall apart, Orioles must put together a trade
Originally published Jul 18, 2005
Peter Schmuck
Sidney Ponson teased us again. He spent five innings yesterday showing us what could be, then came unraveled in a five-run sixth that reminded us why the Orioles have been mentioned prominently in just about every recent trade rumor involving a starting pitcher.
So, if you're Orioles manager Lee Mazzilli, what do you do? Do you look at the first five innings of yesterday's lopsided loss at Safeco Field -- in which Sidney looked refreshed after an extended rest -- or do you look at the sixth inning and conclude that he lacks the arm strength, general conditioning and mental toughness to help you down the stretch?
I'm guessing that Mazzilli gives him one more chance, but I look at his 6.04 ERA (which, incidentally, was the highest of any regular major league starter before it went up again yesterday) and wonder just how many chances you're entitled to in this life.
There is the temptation to look at the two-run jam shot in the sixth inning and say that if Ponson had been a little luckier, he might have stayed around to record his eighth victory ... or to look at the Orioles' soft offensive performance and say that it would not be fair to judge him on a day when he got so little run support.
Ponson always leaves just enough on the table to let you wonder if tomorrow will be the first day of the rest of a solid career, but we're eight years in and he has only briefly -- in 2003 -- delivered on his tremendous promise.
It's time for the Orioles to cut their losses. The second half of this season is too important to long-suffering Orioles fans to risk it on a guy who doesn't respect the game and doesn't respect himself.
Move him to the bullpen, give James Baldwin a couple of chances to complete an uplifting comeback, and spare no expense to acquire one more quality starting pitcher before the July 31 deadline for completing trades without waivers.
Erik Bedard returns from the disabled list tonight, but please don't be fooled into thinking that a healthy Bedard is as good as a midseason pitching deal. Bedard is already part of the second-half equation, because he was a big reason the Orioles played so well in the first half.
If he can pick up where he left off -- which is a big if -- the Orioles will have four solid starting pitchers along with the continuing uncertainty surrounding Ponson's slot. It'll take more than that to get where they want to go. It will take real pitching depth, and that doesn't come up from the minor leagues in September.
Copyright © 2005, The Baltimore Sun
Baseball Guru
07-18-2005, 12:18 PM
But thanks for dropping by, James. :wave1:
:D
Sure thing chick:wave1:
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