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a_ndrew3000
07-23-2005, 03:29 PM
http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=2114944


The Baltimore Orioles on Saturday agreed to trade right-handed pitcher Sidney Ponson to San Diego for first baseman Phil Nevin.

Nevin has a limited no-trade clause and had yet to approve the deal, ESPN The Magazine's Buster Olney reports, and according to Nevin's clause, he can veto a trade to the Orioles.

With Ponson acquired by the Padres, the Orioles' deal to acquire Florida Marlins right-hander A.J. Burnett has been shelved.

A three-way deal with the Orioles and Texas Rangers, which would have sent Burnett to Baltimore, was "killed" by the Orioles this weekend, a baseball man familiar with the deal told ESPN.com's Jayson Stark. So the Marlins are believed to have broken off talks with Baltimore, at least for now, and are back to focusing on offers by the Chicago White Sox, Boston Red Sox and Toronto Blue Jays.

Lowell, who is hitting .230 with four homers and 39 RBI, is owed about $21 million through 2007.

Ponson was sent to San Diego once he refused a trade to the Tampa Bay Devil Rays for left-handed reliever Trever Miller.

The Padres have a need for a starter because Adam Eaton (9-2 in 14 starts, 3.42 ERA) likely heading to the bullpen. Bothered by elbow pain, Eaton can't throw his curveball, relegating him as a fastball-changeup reliever.

Now the Marlins have to try to find a taker for third baseman Mike Lowell with Burnett, or return to the possibilities with the White Sox and Red Sox.

The White Sox figure to head the list of other deals, with prospect Brandon McCarthy the main part of the package along with starter Jose Contreras. The Red Sox's offer would center on right-handed pitcher Bronson Arroyo.

Why Ponson? Who is going to place first? Nady? Say it aint so... Please veto this deal Phil!

I believe that Nady/Sweeny can handle the first base duties, but surely Nevin is worth more than Ponson! I realize that a shake-up is in order, due to the lack of wins lately, but Ponson!

Batters are hitting .329 against him! .329!

rockin500
07-23-2005, 03:53 PM
nevin would be crazy to veto the trade. his numbers will never be good in that ballpark.

Baseball Guru
07-23-2005, 04:02 PM
nevin would be crazy to veto the trade. his numbers will never be good in that ballpark.


Agreed!

Why the hell would the Pads trade for Ponson?? Especially a player of Nevin's ability?

This is a horrible trade for a 1st place team to make IMO... :no:

Timberwolf
07-23-2005, 04:07 PM
Why in God's green earth would the Padres acquire Ponson? What the hell has Ponson accomplish in his MLB career? Ponson and Colon have got to be the two biggest underacheivers as pitchers right now.

Another thing. Why would the Padres get rid of their leader, Phil Nevin? Yeah Nevin has opened his mouth about the park and all, but c'mon.

If Nevin use his no-trade clause, he did the Padres a favor.

BTW, why can't the Padres and the Twins make a trade. Padres could dump Nevin for Lohse. Nevin could fill the Twins need at third and Lohse can be a good arm for the Padres. Lohse is a better fit than Ponson IMO.

Very interesting trade and if Nevin does not okay a no-trade clause, you got two third basemen in Randa and Nevin.

a_ndrew3000
07-23-2005, 04:40 PM
Agreed, Ponson is a bum! I like the idea of Lohse, he is not a fat bum like Ponson. I don't know if the Twinky's really want Nevin playing 3rd though. He hasn't done it in a while and he isn't getting any younger.


nevin would be crazy to veto the trade. his numbers will never be good in that ballpark.

He is actually hitting better at home than on the road this year.

Timberwolf
07-23-2005, 04:53 PM
Twins need an upgrade at third base. Nevin fits the bill.

Cuddyer, who was expected to be the everyday third baseman, has been a colossal dissapointment and he is likely going to be traded. I think the Twins have given up on him.

yagsy
07-24-2005, 11:44 AM
I don't want Nevin going anywhere, I don't believe changing out an integral part of the clubhouse chemistry during a pennant race is a good thing.

I do think the trade is great for both teams - Nevin would certainly flourish at Camden Yards but the Padres need offense more than pitching right now. 4 hits yesterday? Are ya kidding me? :Pissed:

Ponson might be a good fit but I was never a fan of him or his stuff. I think it would be detrimental to both clubhouses to mess with the chemistry. And I do believe that is very important for a winning club.

Winning = Padres not so much right now. Something does have to be done, no doubt, I do not like this trade one bit.

Nevin has been consistent over the years, he's good for 90RBIs, .300 and 15HR to 20RHs. He usually can hit more but playing at Petco, he let the park get into his head. Sheesh, down the lines, it's not so bad. AND I was at Petco when he hit a shot to the 2nd level of the Western Medtal Building, so the guy can hit at Petco rather nicely. He's coming around too, and I don't think he's the piece they need to move.

Timberwolf
07-24-2005, 02:30 PM
THE GIRL OF MY DREAMS IS BACK.

Good seeing you, yagsy.