Ridiculous

[JoeMcClenahan]

HAHA, this is espn's prediction for the final standings for 2002.

AL East W L Pct GB RF RA #DIV #WC
New York 104 58 .642 - 919 680 45.5 1.5
Boston 92 70 .568 12 851 727 4.5 24.5
Toronto 77 85 .475 27 781 839 1.0
Baltimore 66 96 .407 38 721 861
Tampa Bay 61 101 .377 43 696 902

AL Central W L Pct GB RF RA #DIV #WC
Chicago 89 73 .549 - 827 762 40.5 .5
Minnesota 81 81 .500 8 791 796 6.5
Cleveland 78 84 .481 11 827 852 3.0 .5
Kansas City 64 98 .395 25 725 906
Detroit 63 99 .389 26 708 883

AL West W L Pct GB RF RA #DIV #WC
Oakland 96 66 .593 - 850 669 31.5 6.0
Seattle 91 71 .562 5 792 691 10.0 9.5
Texas 88 74 .543 8 901 830 6.5 5.5
Anaheim 82 80 .506 14 769 751 2.0 1.0

NL East W L Pct GB RF RA #DIV #WC
Atlanta 88 74 .543 - 748 686 25.5 5.0
Philadelphia 83 79 .512 5 735 706 13.0 1.5
Florida 82 80 .506 6 753 736 7.5 3.0
New York 80 82 .494 8 704 717 4.0 1.8
Montreal 69 93 .426 19 705 830

NL Central W L Pct GB RF RA #DIV #WC
St. Louis 90 72 .556 - 797 711 28.8 5.0
Houston 87 75 .537 3 837 783 13.8 11.0
Chicago 81 81 .500 9 779 781 4.8 2.0
Cincinnati 80 82 .494 10 785 796 3.0 3.3
Milwaukee 73 89 .451 17 735 832 .5
Pittsburgh 72 90 .444 18 689 765

NL West W L Pct GB RF RA #DIV #WC
San Francisco 88 74 .543 - 772 717 22.5 4.3
Colorado 85 77 .525 3 967 931 12.0 5.0
Arizona 84 78 .519 4 729 713 11.0 5.0
Los Angeles 79 83 .488 9 706 709 2.0 2.5
San Diego 77 85 .475 11 728 765 2.5 1.0

http://espn.go.com/mlb/spring2002/diamondmindprojections.html

[JoeMcClenahan]

What is ridiculous to me is that they put the Mariners behind Oakland. The M's only got better with the additions of Cirillo, and the addition of a better hitting left fielder, Ruben Sierra. While Oakland lost one of the most powerful and best hitters in baseball, Jason Giambi. THEN, the Mariners won 116 games last year, and IMPROVED their infield and outfield. They may have lost something with the pitching, but Piniero and Meche will compensate. HOW can Oakland be ranked higher?

And also, look at the position of the mets, who added the bats of Roberto Alomar, and Mo Vaughn to their lineup. They wernt half bad the second half last year. They are at least better than Philly.

[Baseball Guru]

Whoaaaaa, these rankings do suprise me:uhoh:

I agree that the M's should still win the AL West although it will be a lot closer this year...

I am shocked that they are predicting a 4th place finish for the Mets....Hell, last year with no hitting they finished with a better record than they are predicting here......Not quite sure why.....They upgraded their hiting tremendously and really only lost 1 key starter in Appier......Keys will be health but one cant predict that...If healthy the Mets will conted for the East, if not, they may be accurate...

I also see the NL West as being San Fran and Zona...Throw COlorado out of that mix...I think Zona will win it....

[Baseball Guru]

Joe, can you post these ranking in the Around the Horn Forum for everyone to check out...It shoul dmake for interesting discussion....

[Fullabull]

I don't see anything wrong with these predictions.:biggrin:

[evanreyes]

Wow, those predictions are blatantly flawed. The M's WILL repeat as West champs, and the Phillies should struggle for 3rd place, which I don't think they can acheive, what with the Marlins' amazing young pitching staff.

[645]

Experts?

What Make them Experts?

Could it be becouse they work for the press?

I think so.

[GiveHyzduashot]

645, this was a simulation done by Diamond something or other. It wasn't a straight forward prediction.

[SodoMojo2110]

And with the imergence of James Baldwin after a great first start, as well as the hitting skills of Ben Davis to compliment Dan Wilson, the Mariners are better than anticipated even a day ago. And the A's.....well, they still have Hudson, Zito, Mulder and Chavez, so they won't be BAD, but who knows, the rest of the field is full of question marks.

[645]

Originally posted by GiveHyzduashot
645, this was a simulation done by Diamond something or other. It wasn't a straight forward prediction.

That's even worse relaying on a computer to make up some numbers on what would happen in a perfect season where no one got hart or things like that.

[GiveHyzduashot]

Well it was a pretty advanced simulation. 50 seasons were simulated with formulas for how often a player is injured, where he's at in his career, etc. It's not like this is being done on a PlayStation2 or anything like that.

[645]

I'll give you that but it don't matter how advanced it is for you never know what could happen.

I belive Baseball is a game of streaks,Hot streaks,Cold streaks.And one thing can deside the whole season for a team.

[imgreat95]

this was not done by ESPN. It was done by Diamond Minds. They have been doing this stuff for years, and last season, their simulations actually proved to be VERY close. It is done to show what COULD happen if everything aligned perfectly. Of course, we know that won't happen. But that is not what it's all about.

[SodoMojo2110]

I bet the ol' Diamond Mind was about 20 games off of the Mariners record, huh? Well, nobody predicted that