Chad Pennington done for year?

[PissedPrincess]

http://www.nfl.com/teams/story/NYJ/8895976

God Bless. :(

[rockin500]

yah. not good. while i am not a chad fan, you dont want to see this. its about the absolute worst injury that a QB can have. and twice in two years?

i guess some chad hater feels really happy about himself right now. :hmm:

[PissedPrincess]

I agree Ray. I was turned off by Chad when he gave his little "reporters should be blessed to interview me" speech, but this is terrible. :(

[rockin500]

my cousin had a partial tear of his left cuff last year and he couldnt do anything for like three months with that arm. which kinda sucked for him as he is a graphical artist. what people dont understand about this is that this injury is much worse than a pitcher needing tommy john surgery. at least with that, your arm is going to be healthy again in a year and you can still do normal stuff. with a cuff injury, you cant do anything with it.

[Royce]

Everyone is making it sound like it is a bad thing for the Jets.

[Tigers#1]

He's a great quarterback, but he's been playing injured the last few years. But i guess in New York your expected to play injured at 100%.

[rockin500]

Everyone is making it sound like it is a bad thing for the Jets.
i dont know. brooks bollinger isnt exactly the second coming of joe montana or anything. i was never really all that impressed with him at wisconsin.

[PissedPrincess]

Everyone is making it sound like it is a bad thing for the Jets.

Ummm...how is losing your starting QB not a bad thing? :confused:

[Thedatch]

Ummm...how is losing your starting QB not a bad thing? :confused:

well, i'm guessing Royce's thinking behind this was that Chad had been horrible this year anyway, so now they have a chance to turn it around maybe. Although Brooks Bollinger isn't exactly the answer, methinks.

[rockin500]

well, i'm guessing Royce's thinking behind this was that Chad had been horrible this year anyway, so now they have a chance to turn it around maybe. Although Brooks Bollinger isn't exactly the answer, methinks.
what i think really hurts is their backup got hurt too. the jets are pretty much where the bears are at at QB: relying on young untested kids

[Royce]

Ummm...how is losing your starting QB not a bad thing? :confused:

When Chad Pennington is your starting quarterback, losing your starting QB is a good thing. If Fielder wasn't hurt, it'd definately be a good thing. I guess it depends on Bollinger. But they weren't going anywhere this season anyway.

[Durango53]

Ya I cant believe the Fins gave up Fielder with all he did.......


Oh wait......

[Timberwolf]

Ray: I don't hate Chad personally. He is a nice guy and all. With that said, he is not a great QB. He never was. I think he got way overhyped by everyone especially in NY. That's where my beef is in him. I am sorry that he got hurt and I am sorry things have not went well with him since that 2003 season. With that said, I think the Jets are better off with Brooks Bollinger as Royce stated. Brooks has a great arm and I think he fits well under Heimerdinger's offense. I think it's time to see if Brooks can be that QB to lead the Jets the next step. If not and if Chad's career is over, they got no choice but to draft a QB which I think has to happen. I for one think the Jets will still be a playoff team and they can be even better with Brooks because it wasn't working with Chad. i know Generalissmo did a great job pointing out Chad's problems at the other sports board that you and I post in.

Bottom line is the Jets should have found a way to sign Gus Freotte this offseason knowing that Chad was not going to be ready for this coming season not to mention Fiedler has been injury-prone the last two years.

BTW, I think the Jets should had signed Jeff George and see if he can get the Jets over the hump. He would do well too. Instead, they signed Vinny Testerverde. It could have been a good signing, but after what he did in Dallas, I am not sure if he is the answer in case Brooks does not do very good.

[Tigers#1]

I heard Steve Bono is available.

[imgreat95]

Ya I cant believe the Fins gave up Fielder with all he did.......


Oh wait......


yeah.. I mean.. .come on... the only thing the guy did was go 35-17 as a starter... Dont know why they didnt cut him loose sooner...

[Royce]

yeah.. I mean.. .come on... the only thing the guy did was go 35-17 as a starter... Dont know why they didnt cut him loose sooner...


Thanks to Ricky Williams, Zach Thomas, Patrick Surtain, Sam Madison, and JT, he went 35-17

[imgreat95]

no QB can ever go 35-17 on their own. Of course it was also due to his supporting cast. That is like saying that Joe Montana wouldnt have won any Super Bowls without Jerry Rice, John Taylor, Roger Craig, Eric Davis, etc...

[Tigers#1]

Thanks to Ricky Williams, Zach Thomas, Patrick Surtain, Sam Madison, and JT, he went 35-17
Curtis Martin, John Abraham, Jonathan Vilma, Shaun Ellis, Ty Law would do the same then.

[Tigers#1]

Pennington might not have torn rotator cuffESPN.com news services


League sources from within and also outside of the New York Jets' organization told ESPN's Chris Mortensen and ESPN.com's Len Pasquarelli on Tuesday that orthopedic specialist Dr. James Andrews apprised franchise officials and Chad Pennington that the quarterback may not have suffered a torn rotator cuff, as originally diagnosed by team physicians during an MRI exam on Monday.



Andrews, the renowned Birmingham, Ala.-based specialist who performed the February surgery on Pennington to repair a rotator cuff tear, also told the quarterback and the Jets that he does not believe the latest injury is career-threatening.

While the six-year veteran is not expected to play again in 2005 -- Jets coach Herman Edwards announced earlier Tuesday, in fact, that Pennington will miss the remainder of the season -- Andrews was unable during his Tuesday examination of the quarterback's right shoulder to make a definitive diagnosis. Dye was injected into the shoulder but there was, a source said, "minimal leakage," making a definitive assessment difficult for now.

Andrews told Pennington that, if the recent injury is just a tearing of scar tissue and adhesions, and not a fresh tear, the quarterback might be able to play again in 2005. Even if that is the case, though, a Jets source said the team is likely to be "prudent to a fault" with Pennington, and not try to put him on the field again this season.

New York also lost backup quarterback Jay Fiedler, who suffered a partially dislocated right shoulder last Sunday, for an indefinite period.

"I think the best thing [the Jets] can do," said one source, "is sit Chad and not let him back on the field until every party to this is convinced that his shoulder is 100 percent recovered. One-hundred percent recovered and one-hundred percent agreement that he is recovered. That should be the minimum standard now. Until then, he [rehabilitates] and he sits. That's how it ought to be."

Beyond the football ramifications for the Jets, there are financial implications as well, and so the long-term viability of Pennington as the club's franchise-level quarterback carries significant weight in several areas. Before the 2004 season, the team signed Pennington to a seven-year, $64 million contract extension that included bonuses totaling $23 million.

The Jets on Tuesday morning signed 18-year veteran quarterback Vinny Testaverde and are expected to add another signal-caller, perhaps by Wednesday. Third-year pro Brooks Bollinger, a sixth-round draft choice in 2003, will make his first regular-season start on Sunday against the Baltimore Ravens.

During Dr. Andrews' examination and meeting with Pennington in Birmingham, on Tuesday, the orthopedist instructed the quarterback to perform specific rehabilitation techniques and exercises over the next 10 days. After that, Andrews might then perform an exploratory arthroscopic procedure on the shoulder to further examine the injury.

ESPN.com senior NFL writer Len Pasquarelli and ESPN's Chris Mortensen contributed to this report.

[PissedPrincess]

Miami didn't have much of an offense to support Fiedler with. Fiedler pretty much lost his job because he lost to the Pats in 3 crucial games. It really wasn't fair.

[imgreat95]

He also lost his job because the Dolphins were inexplicably enamored with AJ Feely who was essentially a rookie QB.

[Timberwolf]

Steve Bono? LMAO!

Jay Fiedler was cut simply because Nick Saban did not think Fiedler was a guy that would fit his system. Jay's record in the regular season was great, but he never was that playoff QB. Like Chad Pennington, he could not make big plays when it counted. Dolphins basically told him not to lose games. I think in Jay's first year, Lamar Smith did most of Jay's dirty work. If Jay made big plays, it was when he ran the ball not throwing the ball. Simply put, Saban wanted a guy who can make big plays and that's where Gus Freotte comes in. It's no secret the Phins are 2-1. It's because of Gus. Dolphins don't have that comeback win against the Panthers if Fiedler or Feely was starting.

As for Montana winning with the supporting cast, that's totally different. I always thought Montana made others better. With Fiedler, he was told not to throw the ball much while Montana did.

[Timberwolf]

Curtis Martin, John Abraham, Jonathan Vilma, Shaun Ellis, Ty Law would do the same then.

I agree.

[Eva]

Obviously, you need a supporting cast. Regardless how great you are. You're only as good as the players you're playing with after all. A lot of people say that about Montana. That he was so great with Rice. Well, yeah, but Rice was great, because of Montana. It's not a one way thing. ;)

[I Are Baboon]

This thread has shown me that a quarterback can not win games all by himself. Up until now, I thought a good QB could. Thanks for clarifying, guys. :thumbsup: