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GaryMrMets
10-12-2005, 01:23 AM
19 years after '86, Buckner needs no forgiveness

By LARRY McSHANE
.c The Associated Press

NEW YORK (AP) - Bill Buckner does not need your absolution. He is not interested in your forgiveness.

Yet after the Boston Red Sox finally snapped their 86-year curse to win the World Series last year, fans across New England granted amnesty to the former first baseman for his infamous through-the-legs error in Game 6 of the 1986 fall classic.

Buckner saw no connection between his error and the end of an era, felt no sense of vindication - not that he needed any.

``It didn't make me feel any differently as far as what happened in '86,'' Buckner said Tuesday over appetizers in a Times Square restaurant. ``I was almost offended that people thought that was supposed to make me feel good.

``I mean, I've got to laugh at it: We forgive Bill Buckner. For what? What crime did he commit?''

At age 55, Buckner - who spent two decades in the majors, collecting more than 2,700 hits - is still best remembered for the Mookie Wilson grounder that slipped beneath his glove to lift the New York Mets to an unlikely comeback victory over the Red Sox. The Mets went on to win the next game and the series.

Buckner's comfortable now with his spot in baseball lore, and speaks easily about the early bitterness that eventually gave way to acceptance.

``When I look back at my job, baseball, and my life, I maxed out,'' Buckner said. ``I did physically everything I could do. What more could you ask of yourself?''

Buckner was helping promote a new ad campaign for a liquor, a sequel to ``Casey At the Bat'' where the mighty title character gets a second chance and hits a home run. Buckner, who has turned down several proposed commercials in the last 19 years, said the theme of second chances appealed to him.

``A lot of people have come up to me and said, `You really helped me in my life,''' Buckner said. ```I looked at what you had to go through, and how you handled it, and my life is better because of that.'''

Buckner's life is getting better all the time. He lives in Boise, Idaho, owns three car dealerships and several commercial properties. He has two older daughters, and a 16-year-old son who's playing high school baseball.

In the months immediately following his error, Buckner was the target of shots from the media and the fans. The veteran ballplayer quickly realized he had a choice to make regarding his brush with infamy.

``I think a lot of people would have really let it bother them,'' said the trim and tanned Buckner, still sporting his familiar mustache. ``Or you could use it in a positive manner. I'm a positive person.''

Buckner said he did appreciate Red Sox pitcher Curt Schilling's comments after last year's Boston championship, when the right-hander said the victory would let people remember Red Sox past as ``the great players that they were.''

Buckner remained quiet when others brought up the idea of redemption in the 2004 title.

``I know there were good intentions, so I kind of let it slide,'' he said. ``I didn't go out of my way one way or the other, but I was offended a little bit at the theory that I did something wrong.''

Buckner, who played in an earlier World Series with the Los Angeles Dodgers, even does card shows with Wilson - they were together last weekend, an '80s version of Ralph Branca and Bobby Thomson. And if people remember the one bad play rather than all the good ones, Buckner can live with that, too.

``Once you accept that, (the rest) doesn't matter,'' Buckner said. ``The thing with Mookie, it's fun, he's a friend. We both sent our kids to college with that deal. I look forward to seeing Mookie.''

10/11/05 16:52 EDT

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Timberwolf
10-12-2005, 06:11 AM
I wish Boston sports fans would get over Buckner. That started my hatred towards Boston sports fans along with the way they treated Jason Kidd at the Fleet Center several years ago in a playoff game. Gee whiz! It's a freaking baseball game. Crap happens. You want to blame someone for choking a World Series. Blame it on Bob Stanley who stunk and John McNamara, who did a lousy job managing in this series.

It's unfortunate what happened that night at Shea, but life goes on. I am really saddened that this is 2005 and we are still talking about that night. Enough is enough. I have forgotten it. It was fun to think about it for a while, but that's been a long time now. I wish the media would just move on and stop asking him about what happened that night.

I will remember Buckner for how hard he worked to be the player he was not for what he did that unfortunate night. It's a shame most fans though will remember him for what happened at Shea.

yagsy
10-12-2005, 09:49 AM
2700 hits? On gimpy knees? :Wow: That is something! :thumbsup:

ON Buckner, years ago, a friend of mine went to a garage sale at a house in a nice town north of Boston. She called me to say "do you know a baseball player named Buckner"? I asked why and she told me that she was talking to his wife about how they had been living with people driving by and throwing eggs, toilet paper, tomatoes and anything else to make a mess on their house and lawn. They were tired of dealing with these people and got out of their hatred. This was 1995, 9 yrs after the incident. I don't understand this behavior :notme:

NOT ALL RED SOX FANS ACT THIS WAY! Unfortunately it's enough though to give Red Sox fans a bad name.

I did find it odd that Buckner is still news. Maybe too he's or his agent is trying to maintain his name to get elected to the Hall.

Timberwolf
10-12-2005, 09:46 PM
Buckner is in the news because most writers have nothing else to do. He was doing a memrobaila show with the fans and such. Apparently, some writers found him and decided to bother him.

Not all Red Sox fans act that way, eh. Then how come Buckner was talking about the harassment he gets over there when he is in town and all. He mentioned that on Beyond the Glory on FSN as they did a segment on him.