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Chisox73
10-20-2005, 10:24 PM
I just want to extend my hearty congratulations to all my friends here at the Astros forum on finally seeing the Astros finally win thier 1st NL Pennant.It has been a long time coming and you guys deserve this.

I also want to wish you guys the best of luck in the World Series. :thumbsup:

I know we are all looking forward to a spectacular series beginning this weekend.

Let's have some fun,and may the best team win. :) :beer:

barzilla
10-20-2005, 10:30 PM
Amen to that, it will be a return to great pitching.

Chisox73
10-20-2005, 11:06 PM
I can't wait for it to get started. :thumbsup:

PopTop
10-21-2005, 11:54 AM
Mike Bauman / MLB.com (http://houston.astros.mlb.com/NASApp/mlb/news/article_perspectives.jsp?ymd=20051020&content_id=1256041&vkey=perspectives&fext=.jsp)

White Sox and Astros provide fresh new Fall Classic

CHICAGO -- This is new, this is fresh, this is different, but this is still about great pitching. This is good for baseball.

The Chicago White Sox have not been in a World Series for 46 years. The Houston Astros have never been in a World Series in their 43-year history. There is novelty value in the 2005 Fall Classic, but there is so much more than that.

Oh, I know, the "aura" will not be the same without the Yankees or the Red Sox. Too bad. We will have to get some new aura. Baseball can be played west of the Hudson River. This Series might be proof. Neither the Yankees nor the Red Sox will be here, and yet, there is an excellent chance that the Astros and the White Sox will play until one of them wins four games.

Neither one of these teams is here by accident. These teams are here because, when it counted most, they pitched better than any of the other 28 clubs.

Moreover, the White Sox won 99 games in the regular season, more than anybody else in the American League. They were indisputably the best team in the league. And then, in the postseason, their starters pitched as though the clock had been turned back to an era when the players were smaller and the parks were bigger. They completed four games in a row in the AL Championship Series as they defeated the Angels, the first time that feat had been accomplished in 49 years in the postseason. (The last club to do that was the Yankees, but, once again, it appears that they are not here.)

The Astros were the National League Wild Card team, but you have a hard time putting down somebody in that category, since the last three World Series were won by Wild Card teams.

The Astros have their own terrific story. They were 15-30 to begin the season. How bad was this? The Astros were buried, even though they were not actually dead. The Houston Chronicle placed an obituary on the Astros on the front page of its sports section. This just proves that you should never bury something in the spring when its natural life expectancy runs at least through September.

But the Astros resurrected themselves. No surprise there, they had reached the postseason with a tremendous second-half surge in 2004, as well.

What might have surprised some people was that the Astros beat the St. Louis Cardinals in six games in the NL Championship Series. The Cardinals were, for the second straight year, the best regular season team in the Senior Circuit.

But the Astros were stronger on the mound, particularly when Roy Oswalt was pitching. This is a Houston team, with its three elite starters and its top-shelf closer, that is probably better off in the postseason than it was in the regular season. With this pitching, nobody in the NL wanted to match up against the Astros in the postseason. The question with them was whether they could get into October. Once in the postseason, they did what their pitching said they could do.

So what we have here, far from being some aura-less matchup of mere newcomers, is a World Series drawn up along classic lines. These are two teams whose real strength is pitching. They have other assets, no question, but pitching is primarily what brought them to this point.

What will make this meeting even more fascinating is the fact that this Series will be played in two parks that have typically been hitter-friendly. The Crawford Boxes in left make Minute Maid Park a haven for right-handed hitters. U.S. Cellular Field is truly a hitter's park in the summer, but now, when the wind tends to shift and blow in off Lake Michigan, the equation might change to favor the pitchers. Not that the pitchers on either of these clubs require any external assistance.

So what do we know about the people who are saying that it's a weird World Series because neither of these teams make it often? We know that they're not from Chicago or Houston. In fact, they are probably from somewhere outside the Central time zone entirely.

It is a good sign for competitive balance in baseball that teams other than the usual soaring-payroll suspects reached the World Series. But beyond that, the White Sox and the Astros are not flukes, they are not aberrations. They are the two teams that, by the historical definition of what succeeds in the postseason, were supposed to be here. Good for them, good for baseball.

lal4l
10-21-2005, 01:15 PM
this is gonna b sexy whats the format?

Baseball Guru
10-21-2005, 02:21 PM
Great article Willie...

Oh, I know, the "aura" will not be the same without the Yankees or the Red Sox. Too bad. We will have to get some new aura. Baseball can be played west of the Hudson River. This Series might be proof. Neither the Yankees nor the Red Sox will be here, and yet, there is an excellent chance that the Astros and the White Sox will play until one of them wins four games.

AMEN to that.... While I love the Sox and wish they were there, I am not devestated by the teams that are in... I am excited for the new teams in and think its great for baseball and the fans of those cities...

Chisox73
10-21-2005, 10:51 PM
this is gonna b sexy whats the format?
2-3-2.First 2 in Chicago.

PopTop
10-21-2005, 11:21 PM
While I love the Sox and wish they were there, I am not devestated by the teams that are in... I am excited for the new teams in and think its great for baseball and the fans of those cities...You know what's weird, James? I always wanted to see a Boston-Houston World Series. When I first started to follow the Colt .45s, that was the only way I thought I was ever going to get to see Carl Yastrzemski play! Turns out that I got to see him play in the '68 All-Star game in Houston, plus later when the Senators II moved to the D-FW area.

Not sure what my point was when I first started this post :freak:

Eva
10-22-2005, 06:47 AM
AMEN to that.... While I love the Sox and wish they were there, I am not devestated by the teams that are in... I am excited for the new teams in and think its great for baseball and the fans of those cities...
Agreed.

I'm a big Red Sox fan myself, but I'm not sad at all with this World Series match-up. Two great club with a history going at each another for the WS title. How can this not be excited? Fans of baseball in general should also enjoy this series, which will focus on pitching over offense for the first time in a long time. Fans of the city are coming out and showing their support.

Astro's never being in the Series once in their 40+ existent while the Chicago White Sox not winning the series since 1917. Hell, not even a World Series game once since 1917 and only made one appearance in the World Series since then. How is this not good baseball? Sure, you can be disappoint that your team not here, but this is a great match-up of two damn good baseball teams. :)