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Chisox73
11-15-2005, 11:29 PM
Miller, Kreutz admit to altercation

By RICK GANO, AP Sports Writer
November 14, 2005
http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news;_ylt=As.o.zGJGONyjevxamKTJ6xDubYF?slug=ap-bearsfight&prov=ap&type=lgns

LAKE FOREST, Ill. (AP) -- Bears center Olin Kreutz will not be suspended by Chicago coach Lovie Smith for breaking teammate Fred Miller's jaw in a fight last week.

The players admitted Monday they had the fight. Smith, obviously unhappy he wasn't told the truth about what happened until late last week, said he won't suspend the players but will discipline them. He wouldn't be specific, but fines are expected.

Miller needed surgery last week after initially saying he hurt his jaw in a fall at his home last Monday.

"We're disappointed -- and I really found this out later on in the week -- we're disappointed in the fact we weren't told right away," Smith said Monday.

"But you know when you have a season going like this, guys like to protect the team as much as possible and that's what happened."

Miller and Kreutz came to the Bears locker room Monday -- it is often not open after the team wins the previous day -- made statements and took a few questions about the incident.

"We realize it was something very stupid on both of our parts and it's not going to happen again," Miller said as he apologized to his family, his teammates and Kreutz.

Details of the fight were not clear, and neither Kreutz or Miller would provide them. They came forward with their admission after reports came out Sunday, saying Miller's broken jaw did not come from a fall.

"I found out about it later in the week on the weekend and I started dealing with it then," Smith said. "Guys make mistakes and sometimes you say things to try to cover up something, and in the end most of the time the truth comes out. Which it did. Now we're admitting the truth of what happened and we're going from there."

Miller missed Sunday's game against the 49ers, ending a stretch of 110 straight starts dating back to 1998. He will also be sidelined this Sunday when Carolina visits Soldier Field. John St. Clair will start again in his place against the Panthers' talented defensive front.

Kreutz, a four-time Pro Bowl center, said: "Things got out of hand. Something happened and it just got out of hand."

Kreutz, who is 6-foot-2, 292 pounds, and the 6-7, 320-pound Miller, an offensive tackle, said they talked after the altercation.

"I don't know if it will ever be completely gone, you know, but we're over it," Kreutz said. "The team is the No. 1 thing and we're going to try to move on."

Miller, a 10-year veteran who was one of the Bears' main offseason acquisitions, characterized the incident as "immature and stupid."

"Olin and I don't have a problem with each other," said Miller, who has a steel plate in his jaw.

"We're still going to go out there and play and we're going to work together. We're still going to go out on our regular nights and have dinner together as an offensive line and as a unit."

Smith reiterated that the concocted story was as big an issue as the actual incident.

"We had a fight, or not even a fight, there was an altercation. It was no more than that," Smith said.

"It's not a big deal really. The big deal is that we didn't report what really happened right away. And that's what we are trying to clear up. ... As you deal with family matters, I have a brother. Sometimes brothers fight. No more than that and you move on. "

Defensive back Jerry Azumah said Monday he doesn't expect the incident to be a distraction.

"I think adversity happens on every team and it's all about how you deal with it and how you handle it," Azumah said. "Right now we're on a bigger thing, a bigger aspect right now and that's about winning."

rockin500
11-16-2005, 12:07 AM
eh, not really that big of an issue to me. teammates fight all the time. anyone remember Jordan punching Steve Kerr? dont think that really affected team chemistry. :)

Durango53
11-16-2005, 12:31 PM
Olin Kreutz's former boxing coach wasn't surprised at the Pro Bowl center's proficiency with his dukes. "I guess I trained him pretty well," Gary Dobry joked Tuesday, a day after it became public the Bears center broke the jaw of teammate Fred Miller in a fight. Dobry, owner of Pug's Gym in Marengo, said Kreutz first came to him a few years ago looking for a personal trainer to help him with his hand speed, with the aim of making him a better snapper. As part of his training, Dobry said, he had Kreutz punching target mitts and sparring.

Agreed with Ray. Fights happen all the time but 99.9% of the time they are keep in house.

The only reason this got brought out is because of a broken jaw.

PissedPrincess
11-16-2005, 01:08 PM
Agreed. Fights are normal. They actually help.

Spitball67
11-16-2005, 04:19 PM
The only reason this got brought out is because of a broken jaw.

I agree with that.

Chisox73
11-16-2005, 06:19 PM
Supposedly,this happened at an FBI shooting range and there was alcohol involved.

Durango53
11-16-2005, 06:25 PM
That could add a twist to it.....

Chisox73
11-16-2005, 10:23 PM
Here's what I've picked up on this.

Supposedly Kruetz and Miller were pretty blasted at an FBI shooting range when they got to scuffling.As they were going at it,Miller took a 5 lb weight to Kruetz' head.Kruetz then broke Miller's jaw.

So now,this gets intersting when you throw in the element of the FBI here,and getting smashed on Federal propery.

Stay tuned. :cool:(FBI agent smilie)

rockin500
11-17-2005, 03:39 PM
booze, guns, FBI, 5 lb weights. and the NFL had a problem with Playmakers? :cool:

Chisox73
11-18-2005, 01:03 AM
Bears keep downplaying fight
November 17, 2005
BY BRAD BIGGS Staff Reporter
http://www.suntimes.com/output/sports/cst-spt-bear17.html

As the FBI's interest in the events that led to Fred Miller's fractured jaw spread to Washington on Wednesday, the Bears' right tackle returned to the practice field intent on putting the issue behind him and the team.

With the NFC North-leading Bears (6-3) preparing for the Carolina Panthers (7-2) and their biggest game since 2001, more questions filled Halas Hall in the wake of reports that the fight between Miller and center Olin Kreutz on Nov. 7 occurred at the FBI shooting range in North Chicago after they and other players had been drinking at a barbecue after a session at the shooting range.

With guns and alcohol part of the interest in the team now, the Bears must handle a distraction they hoped would go away Monday, when the players fessed up to a concocted story about Miller taking a spill in the middle of the night at his home.

"Every day someone is going to bring something up, but as far as we're concerned, it's done,'' Kreutz said. "I'm not going to comment on the stories. People are going to keep bringing up stories, and some things are made up and some things are true. But we're done with it, and people can keep going with it if they want to.''

Miller had a streak of 110 consecutive starts ended -- and lost an opportunity for a $100,000 bonus -- when he was inactive for the victory over San Francisco on Sunday. He's listed as questionable on the injury report this week, though he is expected to start opposite All-Pro end Julius Peppers.

His only issues are dealing with the pain and maintaining his strength. He has dropped 15 pounds from his 6-7, 320-pound frame while on a diet of soup and shakes with a plate surgically inserted into his jaw.

''I want to get on the field and continue playing football and do what I enjoy doing,'' he said. "You guys care about this more than we do. We've put it behind us.''

Some teammates declined to comment on the fight fallout; others reiterated that it's a non-issue.

"It's something that happened and you can't take back,'' quarterback Kyle Orton said. "I'm not going to get into details or anything like that. That's for them to do. I don't think it causes any problems in the locker room. We got past the last game. It was an unfortunate situation that Fred was out, and it happened off the field. It's back to work.''

Said middle linebacker Brian Urlacher: "It's nobody's business but the people on this team.''

The NFL disagrees and is looking into the matter. It's believed the league will levy some fines.

"As I said [Monday], we'll handle it inside,'' coach Lovie Smith said. "The story has come out -- I think everyone knows what it is. If you find out more, I'm sure that will come out and we'll go from there. I think everyone has tried to come clean with what's happened.''

Wide receiver Muhsin Muhammad can testify that this is nothing compared with what he went through during nine seasons with the Panthers. He was called to court hearings for teammate Rae Carruth, currently serving a prison sentence for having his girlfriend murdered, and Deidra Lane, who was convicted of killing her husband, former Panthers running back Fred Lane.

"We had a lot in Carolina,'' Muhammad said. "One of the guys is doing a whole lot of time. There was a lot of serious stuff that went on. We just put it behind us.''

Kreutz said it's not difficult to focus on the task at hand.

"We're all football players,'' he said. "That's what we do. Any team that's winning, you have to limit some distractions.''

Durango53
11-18-2005, 10:50 AM
booze, guns, FBI, 5 lb weights. and the NFL had a problem with Playmakers? :cool:
I said in the Vikings thread Ray that of corse the NFL had problems with Playmakers. It wasnt real enough. Playmakers was to tame.

Booze, Guns, FBI, Sex Boats, murder, drug selling..........