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Special_K19

01-15-2006, 05:45 PM

FIrst of all, Dungy will probably step down on his own after the horrible events he's been through. Secondly, if the Colts were to do that to him they would be run into the ground. The Colts were beat by a fiestier team who is red hot right now. It wasn't his fault the Colts lost. Dungy is a class act and doesn't deserve to be fired.

I Are Baboon

01-15-2006, 05:58 PM

Big R for Colts coach.

:laff: :laff: !!

Thedatch

01-15-2006, 06:35 PM

the colts may quite possibly be the worst playoff team ever...wow.

im pretty sure the fact that they havent played a meaningful game in a month helped, but jeez. They have the most talent in the NFL, but they just can't win when it counts...

so strange.

a_ndrew3000

01-15-2006, 07:03 PM

They won't fire him because it would make the organization look bad.

I do not think he is a very good head coach. What happened to Tampa when he left? ....He has the most talented offense in the league, and can't win a home playoff game in which they got all the calls and breaks.

Big R

01-15-2006, 07:08 PM

Big R for Colts coach.

you already know!!!!!!

1. draft marcus vick with my first round pick
2. trade manning for some draft picks
3. sign and trade james
4. draft white
5.draft a kicker

BPBlueSox

01-15-2006, 07:38 PM

you already know!!!!!!

1. draft marcus vick with my first round pick
2. trade manning for some draft picks
3. sign and trade james
4. draft white
5.draft a kicker
I love it. :D

Tigers#1

01-15-2006, 08:01 PM

the colts may quite possibly be the worst playoff team ever...wow.

No, i can think of a team who's only won one playoff game in over 50 years.

Dungy is a great coach at turning teams into dominant regular season teams. But, i'm sure if he was given more time with Tampa, he eventually would of won it all. Cowers been with Pittsburgh for 14 years with no Superbowl title, and i don't hear anyone calling for his head.

Eva

01-15-2006, 09:12 PM

Big R for Colts coach.
Lol, you have your moments, TW. :laff:

You know, I could say this and that, but why bother? Big R think everything is Cowboys in the NFL. ;)

Big R

01-15-2006, 09:38 PM

dont make me whip out the playbook!

i have one from freshman year back in highschool

3 state championships with my plays!

FUMBLE RUSKIE!!!

Royce

01-15-2006, 11:35 PM

Tony Dungy is one of the best coaches in the league. I don't understand you at all, really. Fire freakin' Bill Parcells and trade Bledsoe, cut your kicker, drop Julius Jones, and sign you to play some WR for your #1 draft pick Marcus Vick. Honestly, why do you think Tony Dungy is a bad coach, cause I'd love to hear some reasons. Backup your statements for once.

a_ndrew3000

01-16-2006, 12:19 AM

Postseason record 5-8...

Dungy is good in the regular season, and very average in the playoffs...He is not Schottenheimer bad, but still not very good in the postseason.

Dungy was completely outcoached today. They did not adapt and fix the
protection problems they had against the Chargers earlier this year, and it cost them.

Durango53

01-16-2006, 08:55 AM

Ya I cant believe Dungy missed that FG!!!!! And then he couldnt block worth a darn against that defense and let pressure on the QB. And speaking of QB I cant believe some of the throws Dungy threw!!!!! What was he thinking!!!
And then some of those passes just hit Dungy in the peter tongs!!! I cant believe he dropped them!!!!

And then Dungy getting tackled by Ben with a chance to win the game!!! Ya heard the screams at Dungy for that move. Then on defense Dungy missed some INT's he didnt get in and get pressure on the QB. Just for that he should be gone.

The players lost this game. Dungy wasnt playing and where is the credit to a very good and very solid Steelers team.

I Are Baboon

01-16-2006, 11:43 AM

where is the credit to a very good and very solid Steelers team.

That pretty much sums it up. People need to give credit to the Steelers for playing a better game rather than blame the Colts loss on poor play.

Thedatch

01-16-2006, 12:21 PM

Durango53

01-16-2006, 12:29 PM

Hell with all the blame going around I think some people thought Dungy was playing.

Spitball67

01-16-2006, 01:56 PM

Hell with all the blame going around I think some people thought Dungy was playing.

wha you didnt see him out there missing all of those tackles? And throwing those bad passes? What about that kick he shanked? Get rid of him! ;)

Spitball67

01-16-2006, 01:58 PM

1. draft marcus vick with my first round pick

lmao, he sucks!

a_ndrew3000

01-16-2006, 03:07 PM

Ya I cant believe Dungy missed that FG!!!!!
Actually, that was partially his fault. I believe it they had a 2nd down and 2....Instead of going for a first down, the next play they threw into the endzone. Then, another incomplete pass, when they should have been thinking about another 5-10 yards to make the kick easier. Vanderjagt missed it, but it wasn't a chip shot.

Bottom line is that the Colts were not ready to play and Steelers were. One coach had his team fired up, the other didn't. Maybe next time he will play the starters for more than one series a game at the end of the year.

Thedatch

01-16-2006, 03:10 PM

Actually, that was partially his fault. I believe it they had a 2nd down and 2....Instead of going for a first down, the next play they threw into the endzone. Then, another incomplete pass, when they should have been thinking about another 5-10 yards to make the kick easier. Vanderjagt missed it, but it wasn't a chip shot.

Bottom line is that the Colts were not ready to play and Steelers were. One coach had his team fired up, the other didn't. Maybe next time he will play the starters for more than one series a game at the end of the year.

weren't they at like the 28 yard line or something?

vanderjagt is the most accurate kicker in league history. That is all that needs to be said. He completely shanked that kick, it wasn't even close, that's nobody but his own fault. You can't blame dungy for not getting them closer...they were close enough.

Durango53

01-16-2006, 03:19 PM

Come on Datch.... Dungy threw that ball deep to the end zone because that is what he told himself to do. We all KNOW that Dundy didnt want to look toward the sideline to make the pass and kill the clock. The Steelers was doing nothing on defense!!!!!! They wasnt stopping nothing.

It was Payton's call to where he threw the ball. Just like he waved off the punter he was playing hero. And again lets give credit to a great Steelers team that had the sidelines pinned down and nothing open. Would it be better if Dungy (Manning) threw the ball to the sidelines and forced it in where the covearge was tighter?

And yes Datch the Colts kicker has the high's % of made field goals in the history of the game I heard. (Havnt check the stat out itself)

All I am saying is where is the credit to a Steelers team? Couldn't the Steelers players have just played better?!?!?

00_Agent

01-16-2006, 03:25 PM

That's what I was thinking...he knows Vanderjagt is not going to miss, so why not take a few shots? If I had Vanderjagt as a kicker, I would do the same thing. Why just accept going to overtime?

Anyway, I don't think Dungy needs to be fired. His team almost went undefeated this season, they'll be alright with him. Besides, it's hard to win in the playoffs. Take it from the fan of a team that has lost 4 out of 5 AFC championships in the last 14 years, all at home, all (I think) while being the favorite.

And as someone mentioned, no one is calling for Bill Cowher's head (though there are a few more people than you might expect that annually call the local radio shows and call for it.)

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Thedatch

01-16-2006, 03:34 PM

I think this happens a lot...when a team so heavily favored to win loses, it's never the opponent who gets credit for it, because if they did, all the experts would have to admit that they were wrong. Horribly horribly wrong.

The steelers are a damn good team. They have been for quite a few years, and they really stepped up on sunday. People talk about Manning having an off day like it was his fault and his fault alone, but he was sacked 5 times, and Manning hardly ever gets sacked! it's only the 2nd time in his life he's been sacked that many times. He got anxious, he got pressured, and he got scared, all because the steelers were coming after him. It's been Manning's problem all along, and it was how the patriots beat him last time too. Get him pressured, and get him on the run. Leave him in the pocket and he will kill you.

Steelers deserve credit for this win much more than the colts deserve credit for the loss. If that makes any sense.

00_Agent

01-16-2006, 03:43 PM

Manning didn't seem happy at all with his protection after the game. He stopped just sort of calling them out.

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Eva

01-16-2006, 04:31 PM

weren't they at like the 28 yard line or something?
I believe it was 48 yards.

Thedatch

01-16-2006, 04:33 PM

I believe it was 48 yards.

the fieldgoal was something like that, but they had the ball at the 28 yard line

Tigers#1

01-16-2006, 04:43 PM

Steelers deserve credit for this win much more than the colts deserve credit for the loss. If that makes any sense.
I don't think it's anything personal. The Colts were problably the biggest story this year, and came into the playoffs with a lot of expectations. And Manning and Dungy are known "choke artists" in the playoffs.

And that means it'll give the Steelers players a chip on their shoulders next week, and a little more to play for.

Durango53

01-16-2006, 05:02 PM

Jennifer

01-16-2006, 05:48 PM

No, i can think of a team who's only won one playoff game in over 50 years.

Dungy is a great coach at turning teams into dominant regular season teams. But, i'm sure if he was given more time with Tampa, he eventually would of won it all. Cowers been with Pittsburgh for 14 years with no Superbowl title, and i don't hear anyone calling for his head.But after losing seasons in 1998 and 1999 a whole lot of people were calling for his head. Another example is Holgrem (sp?) who went from a great coach to a terrible coach to a great coach again. Winning changes everything. If the Colts win the Super Bowl next year people will stop calling for Dungy's head.

a_ndrew3000

01-17-2006, 02:34 PM

It was Payton's call to where he threw the ball. Just like he waved off the punter he was playing hero. And again lets give credit to a great Steelers team that had the sidelines pinned down and nothing open. Would it be better if Dungy (Manning) threw the ball to the sidelines and forced it in where the covearge was tighter?

They had timeouts....

Maybe DUNGY should run the team and not Manning! I lost respect for Dungy when Manning called the punt team off the field and we found out who really runs the team. I know they converted on that play, but how can the players listen to the head coach when they know that Manning is really making the decisions.

As for giving the Steelers credit, I did that in another thread. I respect the fact that they defeated the Colts, and the refs. I hope they go into Denver and win that game as well.

ed500

01-18-2006, 03:57 PM

if i was Dungy i would be relieved its over
if anyone can put a superbowl above the loss of a family member
then maybe they should have their head examined

Timberwolf

01-18-2006, 04:00 PM

Maybe DUNGY should run the team and not Manning! I lost respect for Dungy when Manning called the punt team off the field and we found out who really runs the team. I know they converted on that play, but how can the players listen to the head coach when they know that Manning is really making the decisions

Best players tend to do that at times. If you are a great player and you have confidence that you can get the job done, I can't fault you for doing that. Peyton is the face of the franchise and if he feels that he can get it done in a situation like that one, I am not going to blame him.

Durango53

01-18-2006, 04:10 PM

I am with you Timber in a way. What did the Colts have to lose by going for it? The game? Oh ya they did lose the game. They was getting there butts handed to them. Someone had to do something so why not be the star player? Try to turn the game around on a big play. They made the play.