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Tigers#1
01-17-2006, 03:40 PM
Best coach stresses effort and defense

Three coaching giants -- Larry Brown, Phil Jackson and Pat Riley -- have dominated the headlines. But if there were any justice, the little guy in Memphis would be getting all that publicity.

Nobody has done a better job this season than Grizzlies coach Mike Fratello, but he is toiling under the radar. Fratello has his team jockeying for home-court advantage in the first round of the playoffs, remarkably impressive after an offseason in which team president Jerry West jettisoned a load of talent (Jason Williams, James Posey, Bonzi Wells, Stromile Swift and Earl Watson).

The Grizzlies are doing it the way Fratello's teams always have done it: with defense. Memphis entered the week holding opponents to a league-low average of 86.7 points and stood fourth in field-goal percentage defense. The Grizzlies' strength is their ability to keep opponents out of the lane, and that keeps Pau Gasol and Lorenzen Wright from being exposed inside.


On offense, Fratello has a defined pecking order that starts with Gasol. It's a concept embraced in earnest now that Williams and Wells have been shown the door.

Fratello's critics call him arrogant and controlling, but there is no denying that when it comes to the effort meter, Memphis tilts far to the right.

Despite entering the season with more than 600 career wins, Fratello seldom is mentioned as one of the game's elite coaches. But if he has a few more seasons such as this one, the diminutive Fratello should start to get the large helping of credit he deserves.


Grading the rest

A's

Mike D'Antoni, Suns: A. He has the perfect temperament for an NBA coach.
Flip Saunders, Pistons: A. If Saunders has a flaw as a coach, it's a secret.

B's

Rick Carlisle, Pacers: B+. He absolutely, positively refuses to allow nonbasketball issues to affect his coaching style or his team's play.
Gregg Popovich, Spurs: B+. Popovich presides over the most functional locker room in the NBA.
Jerry Sloan, Jazz: B+. The mystery remains unsolved: How does Sloan continue to get his teams to play harder than most others?
Mike Dunleavy, Clippers: B. So far, Dunleavy has done a commendable job of distributing shots and minutes.
Phil Jackson, Lakers: B. It's not easy to coach Kobe Bryant, but all things considered, Jackson does it pretty well.
Byron Scott, Hornets: B. Most had the Hornets as Western Conference cellar dwellers. Instead, they're thinking playoffs.
Terry Stotts, Bucks: B. See? He wasn't nearly as bad as he looked with Atlanta.
Lawrence Frank, Nets: B-. The team leads the Atlantic Division, which is right where it should be.

C's

Larry Brown, Knicks: C+. After breaking the Knicks down in November and December, Brown has begun rebuilding.
Mike Brown, Cavaliers: C+. The Cavs have been somewhat stagnant after their 9-2 start.
Dwane Casey, Timberwolves: C+. Something is missing in Minnesota, and we're not talking about Sam Cassell or Latrell Sprewell.
Avery Johnson, Mavericks: C+. Johnson gets docked one full grade for his part in lobbying to acquire center Erick Dampier.
Maurice Cheeks, 76ers: C. He had a distinguished career as a player, but his coaching career? Somewhat indistinguishable.
George Karl, Nuggets: C. There always seem to be issues just under the surface with Denver, and sometimes Karl is one of them.
Sam Mitchell, Raptors: C. He's doing as much as he can with the roster he has.
Mike Montgomery, Warriors: C. Montgomery's strength as an NBA coach is yet to be determined.
Scott Skiles, Bulls: C. Squeezing 47 wins out of last season's far-from-perfect team increased expectations this season.
Jeff Van Gundy, Rockets: C. Tracy McGrady, Yao Ming, Bob Sura and Derek Anderson have been hurt. What's Van Gundy supposed to do?
Bernie Bickerstaff, Bobcats: C-. Injuries have hurt the Bobcats, but the team hasn't been able to build on early optimism.
Brian Hill, Magic: C-. You had to know Hill's walk-it-up style wasn't going to suit Steve Francis.
Eddie Jordan, Wizards: C-. Like Skiles, Jordan has been a victim of his team's overachieving ways last season.
Nate McMillan, Trail Blazers: C-. Any way you slice it, his team started the week with the worst record in the Western Conference.

D's

Rick Adelman, Kings: D+. He hasn't had a season this bad since he coached the Warriors in the mid-1990s.
Doc Rivers, Celtics: D. His best coaching job remains guiding a woefully thin Magic team to a 41-41 record in 1999-2000.
Mike Woodson, Hawks: D. He's probably not as bad as he looks with Atlanta.

Incompletes

Bob Hill, SuperSonics: Early returns indicate no discernible difference in the team's play since Hill took over for Bob Weiss.
Pat Riley, Heat: Riley will be judged by whether the Heat is playing in June.

Timberwolf
01-17-2006, 04:35 PM
I will give you my grades for the rest of the coaches later. This is a great interactive topic to discuss.

My grade for Dwane Casey is B-. I think C+ is fair though as far as his grade was. I think his insistence of not settling for a stable lineup and the fact that he fluctates Eddie Griffin in and out is why he got a C+. I think he has done a great job getting the most out of an awful roster. I doubt Flip, Phil, Larry, Byron, Mike D'Antoni, and others would have gotten the most out of a mismatch roster.

The thing I want to see from Dwane is that he needs to develop a mean streak. I want him to curse his players and get into their face the way my boss get into my face. I love Tony Dungy to death, but I worry that he may be too nice of a man to ever win all. I really don't want Dwane to have that feeling either.

Best coach in the NBA? I gotta go with Rick Carlisle. The fact he is getting the most out of the Pacers again is simply remarkable considering how Ron Artest once again bails out on the Pacers.

Tigers#1
01-17-2006, 05:01 PM
Carlisle is a great coach, but he has done very little in the playoffs.

Timberwolf
01-17-2006, 05:14 PM
I disagree, Kyle. He took his Pacers to the Eastern Conference Finals couple of years ago and he took his undermanned Pacers to the second round last year. His Pacers took the Pistons to 6 games. That was not easy. I think he is doing a fine job this year.

As for his time in Detroit in the playoffs, I think he did okay with what he had to work with. If Rasheed Wallace was there during Rick's tenure, maybe they go to the Finals instead of the Nets. You can fault Rick though for not playing Prince and the other guy (can't remember his name now) in the playoff series against the Magic till Dumars told him to play Prince when the Pistons were about to be eliminated.

Big R
01-17-2006, 07:19 PM
maurice cheecks and dunleavy= best coaches

Dward00
01-17-2006, 09:17 PM
Gregg Poppovich is the greatest coach in league history. I'm not impressed by any other coach in the NBA.

Timberwolf
01-17-2006, 09:22 PM
Not even Larry Brown or Phil Jackson?

I don't like Larry as far as his business ethics goes, but he can coach and his record speaks for itself.

Timberwolf
01-17-2006, 10:42 PM
Kyle: Do you know where you got that link for the thread that you posted? I wanted to post this link for MNSportsCentral.com so I can write my grades on NBA coaches for this season.

Timberwolf
01-17-2006, 10:42 PM
Kyle: Do you know where you got that link for the thread that you posted? I wanted to post this link for MNSportsCentral.com so I can write my grades on NBA coaches for this season.

Tigers#1
01-18-2006, 12:26 AM
I like Cheeks, but he too underacheived in the post season.

And the link is http://www.sportingnews.com/yourturn/viewtopic.php?t=54183

lal4l
01-18-2006, 01:04 AM
Phil ofcourse is a great coach he is doing very good....

Van Gundy I dont like that much

MY FAVORITE coach is Jerry Sloan... He is amazing! He is dedicated and a hard worker!

Timberwolf
01-18-2006, 01:08 AM
I think Phil Jackson is my Coach of the Year.

He has really gotten the most out of Kobe.

He has won with bunch of role players that are not even good.

I think this is his best work as a head coach. I think this year validates him as a legitimate coach.

lal4l
01-18-2006, 01:28 AM
Yes Tim also validates Brown as trash

Timberwolf
01-18-2006, 01:29 AM
Well as a human being, Larry is trash.

Timberwolf
01-18-2006, 01:54 AM
Thanks for the link, Kyle.

Here are my grades on NBA coaches so far this season:

Casey: B-
Flip: A
D'Antoni: A
Popovich: A
Johnson: A-
Jackson: A
Frank: D
Fratello: A
Montgomery: B
Larry Brown: D
Rivers: F
Cheeks: C
Mitchell: C-
Skiles: C
Carlisle: A-
Stotts: B
Mike Brown: B
Byron: B+
Riley: B-
Jeff Van Gundy: C (I could have given him an F, but since he had injuries that he could not control, C is good enough. I could give him a B, but I don't like him)
McMillan: B (I think Nate has done a great job developing his players and teaching them how to win. The Blazers play hard which is something that they haven't done in recent years)
Woodson: F
Jordan: C
Hill: C+
Bickerstaff: B-
Karl: B-
Dunleavy: B
Sloan: B
Rivers: F
Adelman: D

lal4l
01-18-2006, 02:09 AM
Yours are really good but Adelman a D- if not an F... TRASH
Fan Gundy a D
McMillan C+
Jackson A
Sloan B+
Flip-A
Carlisle B
Karl B-
Hill C+
Skiles-F

Timberwolf
01-18-2006, 02:10 AM
You know. I notice something. I decided to ask people at work, at the campus, and at supermarkets about who Dwane Casey is and most people don't even know who the heck he is. I got nasty looks by people too when I asked who Casey is. I might be the only one in the NY-NJ Metropolitan area that even knows that Dwane Casey is the coach of the Timberwolves. Heck I am not sure people in the Twin Cities know who Casey is. That is very alarming. I don't think he established himself as a coach when people don't know him.

That's too bad which is why I feel that it's important that he develops a mean streak in him.

How would you grade Casey, Tony?

lal4l
01-18-2006, 02:16 AM
I am the first to complain about the fireing Flip was one of the very most ill advised and STUPIDEST things McHale could have done. I like how Casey has gotten that fire back to Wally. Now for Kandi... I want someone to make something out of him. When yall get Blount that will be the true test. Also make Jaric into a better team player. This man is supposed to be bigger for yall... Hassell has been doing good with I like and Hudson is doing ok but I saw what he did against my Lakers one playoff series and if i was a Wolves fan Id want the same... It takes a coach to get that back...

Timberwolf
01-18-2006, 03:21 PM
Flip should have never been fired period. I mentioned that last year in this board. With that said, I would have been okay if Flip went as long as McHale went so the new GM hired his guy. I am not sure if Flip would have made a difference either with this group. This team is simply not good. I don't care who is coaching the Timberwolves.

Michael Olowokandi is simply not good. He is who he is. He is good enough once in a while and that's it. Other than that, he is worthless. I think people made way too much out of him and he could never live up to it. I wasn't crazy about him when he came out of the draft simply for the fact that I never knew about him. He had a good workout during the draft tryout and everyone became impressed with him. With the media hyping him up, Clippers had no choice but to draft him thinking he would be good. They should have gotten athleticism not a big man who no one heard of. Kandi is who he is. He is good for limited minutes. At this point of his career, he is better off coming from the bench. I don't think Kandi is lazy. I know he puts a lot of time at his job and Casey appeciates that. It's just that he is not good.

I am not crazy about getting Blount simply for the fact he makes a lot of money and the fact that he has more years in his contract.

Marko has clearly struggled. Marko did a good job with the Clippers. He always took the big shots and he was pretty darn good then from what I saw. I thought he would do a good job, but right now he stinks. He wasn't anywhere close to that with the Clippers. Was I crazy about getting him in return for Cassell? Definitely not. However, I thought Marko would have played well like he did with the Clippers. He played a great game Monday afternoon against the Knicks at MSG, but can he sustain this every game is a big question.

Trenton actually has struggled. I am down on him.

Troy has struggled since getting hurt at Utah.

I think Casey can only do so much. It says a lot about Flip Saunders that he got so much out of those guys from the same team in terms of getting points from them. Flip is a very good coach in terms of devising an offense. That's not to degrade Dwane here because I am not sure if Flip or anyone would have gotten anything out of this team.

lal4l
01-18-2006, 07:52 PM
Was Kandi EVER good?

Timberwolf
01-18-2006, 08:13 PM
I never thought he was that good at Pacific. It seemed everyone loved him for what he did at tryouts so the Clippers felt that they needed someone to combat with Shaq hence why they picked Michael. Thing is Michael was never ever that good. You don't know much about him so why draft him based on his workout.

Minnesota was dumb to even sign him. They used him playing for the Clippers is an excuse to why he stunk. I never even thought he should have been signed especially with the money he makes.