Superbowl

[Panzram]

Pittsburgh or Seattle?

[Royce]

I'm the lone Seahawks vote.

[imgreat95]

Thats because you are the only one who doesnt know what he is talking about..;)

[Royce]

That may be the case, but we don't know yet.
:doublefin

[imgreat95]

oh.... i kn ow... i know...

[a_ndrew3000]

Third option....

I don't care, hopefully it is a good game

[Timberwolf]

I'm the lone Seahawks vote.

You got company.

Seahawks 20 Steelers 17 in OT.

I think Seattle's defense will come up huge and I think Hasselbeck will find a way to get it done.

[imgreat95]

OK... so I guess you are not the ONLY one who doesnt know what he is talkig about..;)

[BPBlueSox]

OK... so I guess you are not the ONLY one who doesnt know what he is talkig about..;)

Well, he's picked against the Steelers every single game thus far...so why buck that trend?

[imgreat95]

Apparently, though, this is going to be a SUperbowl full of firsts. We will have a running back running all over the Steelers for the first time this season. Us losing a game by 14 for the first time.... and our first overtime game. I am so excited. I cant wait.

[Spitball67]

Here we go Steelers, here we go (clap clap)
Here we go Steelers, here we go (clap clap)
:gt:

[Royce]

Well, he's picked against the Steelers every single game thus far...so why buck that trend?

I've also picked Seattle to win every game so far, and I only put down the Red Skins and Panthers because I was trying to make up points in the pick em' standings by going against everyone else.

[Dward00]

I'd rather the Steelers win, but I think it's crazy not to vote for the Hawks.

[Big R]

i hope it goes to ot and no one scores in ot and they dont reward either team the superbowl cuz they dont deserve it

[Royce]

Are you kidding? The Steelers beat the three best AFC teams on the road, they don't deserve it? The Seahawks won all of their playoff games to get there, they don't deserve it? What qualifies a team of being deserving of a Super Bowl title, being named the Dallas Cowboys?

[imgreat95]

I'd rather the Steelers win, but I think it's crazy not to vote for the Hawks.


Im baffled.... explain, please?

[Baseball Guru]

You're always baffled;)

[Dward00]

Are you kidding? The Steelers beat the three best AFC teams on the road, they don't deserve it? The Seahawks won all of their playoff games to get there, they don't deserve it? What qualifies a team of being deserving of a Super Bowl title, being named the Dallas Cowboys?


LOL!!!!!!

[Dward00]

Im baffled.... explain, please?


It means I want the Steelers to win, but I believe the Seahawks should be favored because they're a better team.

[Big R]

if carson palmer didnt get hurt by that cheap shot steelers wouldnt have got passed the first round and the seahawks only beat the panthers because they didnt have a running game down to there 4th string running back


either team has proven there worthy to play in the superbowl if i was the commisoner i would just call off the whole superbowl and anticipate next season

[a_ndrew3000]

if carson palmer didnt get hurt by that cheap shot steelers wouldnt have got passed the first round and the seahawks only beat the panthers because they didnt have a running game down to there 4th string running back


either team has proven there worthy to play in the superbowl if i was the commisoner i would just call off the whole superbowl and anticipate next season



OMG ROFFELLLLS!

[imgreat95]

It means I want the Steelers to win, but I believe the Seahawks should be favored because they're a better team.

What I am saying, is I dont understand why you think that the Seahawks are easily the better team.

[Dward00]

What I am saying, is I dont understand why you think that the Seahawks are easily the better team.


Answer 2 questions: Who has the better offense? Is Pittsburgh's defense much better then Seattle's?

[Dward00]

if carson palmer didnt get hurt by that cheap shot steelers wouldnt have got passed the first round and the seahawks only beat the panthers because they didnt have a running game down to there 4th string running back


either team has proven there worthy to play in the superbowl if i was the commisoner i would just call off the whole superbowl and anticipate next season

Well I think the Bengles could have easily beat Pitt in the first round too. With Carson not getting injured that is.

That being said with Pittsburgh beating my team I would prefer them to win the superbowl at least. It's always legitimate to lose to the eventual Super Bowl champ of course.

[imgreat95]

Answer 2 questions: Who has the better offense? Is Pittsburgh's defense much better then Seattle's?


I wont know who has the better offense until they play each other. You can look at the numbers all you want... but the fact is those dont tell the story. In almost every game this season, the Steelers jumped out to a big lead in the first half and then ate the clock up in the 2nd half. I dont know how many games where they could have easily put up 40, but instead only but up 24. It is all about the style of offense that they play, so you cant say who was better.

Numbers also dont mean much because you dont play against the same defenses on the same days. I honestly think these teams are pretty evenly matched. However, I do not think that the Steelers will have much trouble with them.

[I Are Baboon]

if carson palmer didnt get hurt by that cheap shot...


:laff:

The Bengals also would have beaten the Steelers if they scored more points than them.

[imgreat95]

Babs, didnt you know that the plan was for Carson to also play defense in the 2nd half???

[Thedatch]

:laff:

The Bengals also would have beaten the Steelers if they scored more points than them.

and the patriots would have won the superbowl already if there weren't any other teams!!!!!!!1111one!!

[Royce]

Lmao...

Big R, the Super Bowl is exciting every year no matter who plays in it if it's a good game. Pittsburgh has some of the most passionate fans in the league and Seattle hasn't been in the Super Bowl in their existence, a normal football fan would find this, and any Super Bowl appealing.

[Panzram]

Do it for Bettis.

[Dward00]

Look at how the experts are calling it.


http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2006/football/nfl/specials/playoffs/2005/02/02/picks.super.bowl/index.html


5-1 pittsburgh. You have got to be kidding me. This sb has upset written all over it.

[GaryMrMets]

This Sunday in the city of
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The Pittsburgh
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Will beat the Seattle
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[Dward00]

They say it's neutral but I think playing in Detroit favors Pittsburgh.

[ed500]

yes it does favor the Steelers because of Bettis
but no matter where it was played ,the Steelers fans would represent bigtime

[ORO45]

Go seahawks! the poll was closed and I could not vote :(

[Dward00]

Well Detroit is an East-Coast city with relatively the same conditions as Heinz field. Plus Pitt fans don't have far to drive.

[a_ndrew3000]

Well Detroit is an East-Coast city with relatively the same conditions as Heinz field. Plus Pitt fans don't have far to drive.

It is a dome. Not the same conditions at all.

[Dward00]

It is a dome. Not the same conditions at all.


that's not entirely true. conditions don't just mean weather.

[Tigers#1]

Is it just me, or does anyone else think that Ashley Simpson could of put on a better halftime performance than the Greatful Dead tonight?

[Mr. Met on Pot]

I thought that was an amazing game and wouldn't have it go any other way. Roethlisberger got the job done as did the Steelers defense. Bill Cower, Jerome Bettis, and the whole Steelers team deserved it. Anybody who thinks the game was rigged and favored the Steelers needs to live with the fact that the Seahawks lost because of TERRIBLE clock management and some bad decisions by Matt Hasselback.

~Tom

[rockin500]

amazing game! good job steelers!

a bit ugly on both sides with mistakes, still great game.

[Spitball67]

say it with me everybody...

PITTSBURGH STEELERS SUPER BOWL CHAMPIONS!!!!!


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:clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap:

[Timberwolf]

Congraulations to the Pittsburgh Steelers in winning their fifth championship. This was well-deserved. To win all three road games against very good teams in a hostile environment definitely meant that the Steelers earned this championship. They played great in this playoff run. Congrats to Bill Cowher for finally getting his first championship. It's great to see that his coaching career is validated with a championship. The guy is a great coach and his work speaks for itself. The last two years has been his two best years as a head coach IMO. It's great to see Ben get his ring in just his second year. He definitely earned it for sure with his play. It's also beautiful to see that Jerome will end his career on a great note. I tip my hat to the Steelers.

As for the Seahawks, they got nothing to be ashamed of. They had a great season and I thought they did a good job tonight. It just didn't worked out. They will get there again and they will eventually win it. Their future is bright and their core players will be there for a long time (I expect Alexander to eventually re-sign with Seattle). They have a great front office and they got a heckuva of a coach in Holmgren. I think Hasselbeck is only going to get even better. This is definitely going to bode well for the Seahawks for years to come. They will be back and they will be better for it.

Seahawks lost this game because they just couldn't finish up their scoring chances in the first half. They miss easy catches and they couldn't hold on the ball. Matt threw great passes and guys like Jermey Stevens, who did not have a great night, couldn't get it done. Seahawks had opportunities to really enter the half with a big lead. They just didn't get it done which is why they lost this game.

Steelers made plays when they had to as usual. How did you like that flea-flicker play to Hines Ward? That was the difference maker here. Willie Parker found a way to score in the third quarter as he did not break a sweat while scoring. He just ran through them. Ben made clutch plays like he always does whether it's getting that first down via his legs or when he somehow throws the ball to his receivers when he is about to tackled. He just did it again like he always does. That's why he is the successful QB as he is. He just knows how to get it done. Him and Tom Brady definitely the 1 and 1A QBs of football. Pittsburgh just knew how to get it done while Seattle couldn't finish up their opportunities.

I thought both QBs played well overall. I talked about what Ben did. Matty played pretty darn good. He did his job. He threw as well as he could. Don't blame him if his receivers had butterfingers. He could sleep well tonight and this off-season. He has to feel good at what he did. He is only going to get better. I think him and Carson Palmer about to take the next step to excellence.

Both defenses did a good job was actually impressed with Seattle's D a lot more than Pitt's D. Seattle's defense did the best they could in stopping Ben and their running back monster. I am not sure how anyone can fault the job they did out there. They did a very good job IMO.

Shawn Alexander could have done a better job. He had a good game in the second half, but where was he in the first half. Maybe if he did well in the first half, Seattle could have scored some points in the first half and then make a difference.

Don't fault Josh Brown for missing the two FGs. He was in a horrible position to kick those FGs. It was a tough task for him.

Who knew Joey Porter was a prophet? Porter talked about Stevens being an underacheiver on Wednesday. Who knew? Jermey Stevens did not have that great of game outside of that TD catch. He missed some easy, passable balls. He should have gotten it done.

The refs were lousy. How was Darrell Jackson's touchdown was nullified was beyond me? How? Where was the offensive interference? My dad watched the game with me and he even wondered where was the interference. He does not even follow football and he knew the ruling was crap. Seattle got screwed in several instances. With that said, that was not the reason why they lost. They lost because their receivers couldn't finish up their scoring chances.

This score may indicate a blowout, but remember Seattle could have led if Matt did not get that interception at the wrong time. That interception set the stage for Pittsburgh to finish up the Seahawks with that flea-flicker play. I thought Seattle played well and I thought it was a good game.

Was it a boring game? I didn't think so. It wasn't the greatest either. I would give this game a 3. This game is something fans will likely not talk about for years to come like the Titans/Rams game from 2000. This game was similiar to Carolina/New England from two years ago. Good game, but not the best.

This is an excellent ending in what was a great story for the Pittsburgh Steelers this playoff season. As for the Seahawks, the best is yet come.

[Timberwolf]

.Anybody who thinks the game was rigged and favored the Steelers needs to live with the fact that the Seahawks lost because of TERRIBLE clock management and some bad decisions by Matt Hasselback.

~Tom

I didn't think the game is rigged. With that said, the refs did not have a great night either. That Jackson nullifed TD was horsecrap.

I thought Matty did a good job with his decision making. Yeah he paniced a little bit in the fourth quarter, but he did fine overall. Seahawks lost because their receivers couldn't run their routes well when they caught the ball and they had problems catching the ball at times.

[Spitball67]

The Jackson TD that was called back was definitely pushing off. When you watch it in slow mo, it doesn't look that bad I will admit. But if you watch it in normal speed, it looks like a push off. Regardless, he is a pro WR and should know that if he, even in the slightest, looks like he uses leverage to separate himself from the DB, it's gonna get called. You cannot get nitpicky with how hard or soft a guy pushes off. It was a push off.

I thought the Roethlisberger TD was a borderline call. It does look like maybe the ball passes over the goal line for an instant. But I could see it going either way. Steelers would at the very least got a FG out of it.

Another bad call was a fumble that a Seattle WR made that was called incomplete. Looked like a catch and fumble, but the refs blew the play dead while two Steeler players were there to jump on it.

The one call that I thought was strange was the one on Hasselback when he made the tackle on the interception. I guess I understand the rule but I didn't think it applied in that case.

[Royce]

I thought that was an amazing game and wouldn't have it go any other way. Roethlisberger got the job done as did the Steelers defense. Bill Cower, Jerome Bettis, and the whole Steelers team deserved it. Anybody who thinks the game was rigged and favored the Steelers needs to live with the fact that the Seahawks lost because of TERRIBLE clock management and some bad decisions by Matt Hasselback.

~Tom

One bad decision? Hasselbeck played terrific. A couple of big plays are the reason the Steelers won this game. Otherwise, they didn't do much, neither team played well. Seattle never really got to run the ball after being down for the majority of the game. Overall, a pretty boring game unless you're a Steelers or Seahawks fan at heart.

[PissedPrincess]

Neither team played particularily well. If you weren't a fan of either team, the game was boring, had no flow. The half-time entertainment was appalling. Who the hell wants to see a wrinkled Mick in Spandex. Gross.

[I Are Baboon]

Who the hell wants to see a wrinkled Mick in Spandex. Gross.

I told the wife that I was almost embarrassed to watch...embarrassed for the Stones.

[Royce]

Yeah, I love the Stones, I think the show was decent at best.

[PissedPrincess]

The damn Super Bowl was in Detroit. They shoulda done a nice Motown show.

[Royce]

Or maybe some Eminem. ;)

But really, they should have a variety of performers.

[PissedPrincess]

Or maybe some Eminem. ;)

But really, they should have a variety of performers.

I'm actually a HUGE Eminem fan.:thumbsup: I just got Curtain Call.

[Thedatch]

Neither team played particularily well. If you weren't a fan of either team, the game was boring, had no flow. The half-time entertainment was appalling. Who the hell wants to see a wrinkled Mick in Spandex. Gross.

ugh, my sentiments exactly. At one point he raised his arm and you could see his arm skin flap around all over the place...wow. I definately lost my appetite after that one.

[Spitball67]

The Stones were off. They started out good and went down hill. I swear I don't know what the hell Keith Richards was playing during "Satisfaction". Some random crap. Don't know if maybe he couldn't hear his guitar or something but it was not good. So much for the World's Greatest Rock Band.

[Royce]

I'm actually a HUGE Eminem fan.:thumbsup: I just got Curtain Call.


Hahah, I'd never guess. I like his old stuff better then his new.

[PissedPrincess]

Hahah, I'd never guess. I like his old stuff better then his new.

Yeah, the Slim Shady stuff was my favorite.:)

[Mr. Met on Pot]

One bad decision? Hasselbeck played terrific. A couple of big plays are the reason the Steelers won this game. Otherwise, they didn't do much, neither team played well. Seattle never really got to run the ball after being down for the majority of the game. Overall, a pretty boring game unless you're a Steelers or Seahawks fan at heart.


He threw a couple bad passes + the INT return penalty and had horrible clock management. Other than that he had a great game.

[Royce]

Clock management isn't his responsibility, its the coaching staff's fault. They should have it made clear what they want him to do. And lmao at the INT return penalty, if that's a penalty, then I think there were 70 penalties in the game, cause then I guess a tackle is a penalty.

[PissedPrincess]

Yeah, the call on Matt was pathetic. It was factually incorrect. The officiating throughout the playoffs was brutally bad.

[PissedPrincess]

The call was extremely pathetic, because the EXACT thing happened in the Pats/Jags playoff game. Brady tackled the ball carrier's blocker, and was flagged. He screamed at the officials and they said if he tackled the ball carrier low, that would have been fine. You just can't tackle the blocker low.

How they effed that up I'll never know.

[Royce]

Yeah, the refs were pretty bad this postseason.

[Timberwolf]

Neither team played particularily well. If you weren't a fan of either team, the game was boring, had no flow. The half-time entertainment was appalling. Who the hell wants to see a wrinkled Mick in Spandex. Gross.

I thought the Steelers played fine. You have to give Seattle's defense a lot of credit for the way they played against a great offense. That's not an easy thing to do especially against a very good QB and that running back duo.

[Timberwolf]

The Jackson TD that was called back was definitely pushing off. When you watch it in slow mo, it doesn't look that bad I will admit. But if you watch it in normal speed, it looks like a push off. Regardless, he is a pro WR and should know that if he, even in the slightest, looks like he uses leverage to separate himself from the DB, it's gonna get called. You cannot get nitpicky with how hard or soft a guy pushes off. It was a push off.

From my vantage point, I am not sure if he pushed. I thought he went to the endzone and then slipped and then got back. That was an iffy call IMO.

[00_Agent]

I hate to join in this thread so late, but I wanted to offer my opinion of the officiating.

Darrel pushed off and created seperation. When you create seperation, it's a penalty. My problem is with the rule in general (sometimes it doesn't affect the play that much, like many instances of holding) but it was the right call by the book. If it wouldn't have been for a touchdown, no one would be talking about it.

The one that I thought was a little bad was the holding call later that negated Stephens catch near the goal line. But even on that one, there are bad holding calls EVERY game. I swear, I can't remember the last time I watched a football game and didn't take umbridge with any of the holding calls. Usually there is at least one weak one.

00

[Dward00]

Well roethlisburger definitely did not get in the endzone, and he even admitted it on the tonight show. The referees reviewed the play and still gave him credit for the touchdown. That's sad. Pathetic even.

The Darrell Jackson push in the endzone is iffy because it was an extremely weak push. As Michael Irvin put it: 'If they called me for that I would never have scored a single NFL touchdown.' The call is a tough one because those calls are more about oppinion. Recievers push off all the time and don't get called for it. Referee's are only supposed to make the penalty call if they believe that it's excessive pushing.

But no. The NFL can back the officiating up all they want and that won't change anything.

[imgreat95]

Well roethlisburger definitely did not get in the endzone, and he even admitted it on the tonight show. The referees reviewed the play and still gave him credit for the touchdown. That's sad. Pathetic even.




If I have to read that he said that one more time, I will literally go bananas...

He said and I quote..." I went up to coach Cowher and said 'I dont think I got in.' "

HUGE HUGE difference between that and admitting that he didnt get in.

[Timberwolf]

If Ben admitted that he did not think he got in, it basically mean he admitted that he didn't get in.

[imgreat95]

how do you figure so?? I have hit softballs before that I initially said, I didnt think that was fair... or have scored goals in hockey where i said, "I didnt think that went in." Yet they did. Ben was doing something from adifferent angle straight on... at a fast pace.... saying I dont think I did, and I didnt.. are two very VERY different things.

[Dward00]

how do you figure so?? I have hit softballs before that I initially said, I didnt think that was fair... or have scored goals in hockey where i said, "I didnt think that went in." Yet they did. Ben was doing something from adifferent angle straight on... at a fast pace.... saying I dont think I did, and I didnt.. are two very VERY different things.

Did you think he made it to the goal line? Because I honestly thought he was 3-4 inches short.

At the time I didn't really care if he made it or not because I knew that they would have gotten the TD on the next play anyways. I was just extremely amazed that when they reviewed it they didn't overturn it.

Anyways I don't think that play if it was called a TD, or 3-4 inches short would have made a difference on the game whatsoever. So don't think I'm hating on the STeelers. I'm hating on the refs.

[imgreat95]

honestly, i dont know. I do think he made it.. but its possible either way. I dont have the link to it, but I did see a still shot which looked like th eball crossed. The problem is that the cameras, for whatever reason, are not on the goal line, so we may never really know for sure.

[Dward00]

Btw i'm not attacking the Steelers. I think that play that they called where hasselbeck tackled the DB in the knees after that interception was the right call. Any time a player intentionally tackles another player in the knees that should be called, just like when the Steelers did it to palmer and injured him......hahahaha I had to.

[imgreat95]

who is carson palmer again?? i forget...

[Dward00]

In the years to come you'll grow to hate that name I'm sure. :luvkiss: