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Royce
02-06-2006, 05:42 PM
http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2/story?page=bayless/060205

By Skip Bayless

DETROIT -- Dear Seahawks fans:

I've been tough on your team the last few weeks. I've called your club the Sea Frauds and said they didn't belong in a Super Bowl. After watching Sunday night's game, I believe that more than ever.

But, as I've also written, your team was blessed all the way to Detroit. This was the first Super Bowl that found itself with two Cinderella stories. These Steelers, the AFC's bottom seed, weren't exactly Terry Bradshaw's Steelers of the late '70s.

But although these Steelers were favored by 4 -- and although I picked them 24-14 -- I'm not sure they deserved to win this game.

And after spending a week in Detroit, I thought the city had cleaned up most of its crime.

The first-quarter offensive pass interference called on Darrell Jackson that turned a touchdown into a field goal was robbery enough. But the fourth-quarter holding call on Sean Locklear made you wonder whether the refs had even less of Aretha's r-e-s-p-E-c-t for your Seahawks than I do.

At that point, your guys had overcome enough mistakes to get blown out in most Super Bowls. In fact, this one had nearly gotten out of hand midway through the third quarter, when the Steelers drove to a first-and-10 at your 11-yard line with a 14-3 lead. But on third-and-6 from the 7, Ben Roethlisberger tossed a throw into the flat that cost him the MVP award and nearly caused coach Bill Cowher's head to explode.

It was, of course, picked off by backup cornerback Kelly Herndon and returned 76 yards. Matt Hasselbeck's 16-yard touchdown fling to Jerramy Stevens rather shockingly turned what looked like a 21-3 game into a 14-10 margin.

And suddenly your Seahawks were going to Motown.

Momentum Town.

The Seahawks forced another Pittsburgh punt, and here they came again. Hasselbeck still makes me nervous because he always looks as if he's running a frantic two-minute offense. But the biggest surprise of this game was how much time Walter Jones and Co. were giving him to throw. Blitzburg, schmitzburg. Your guys had continually knocked the bullies back on their heels and turned down the volume of a Ford Field crowd that looked and sounded more like a Heinz Field crowd.

Joey Porter, the loudest Steeler, was having the quietest game.

And on first-and-10 at the Steelers' 19, Hasselbeck had enough time to listen to Smokey Robinson and the Miracles' "Second that Emotion" before firing another strike to Porter's favorite pregame target -- Stevens. Eighteen-yard completion! First-and-goal at the 2! Seattle about to take a 17-14 lead!

I could almost hear Mount Rainier erupting.

But on this night, the Steelers had their own version of your 12th Man. He wore a striped shirt and a whistle. He threw a flag.

And Locklear went down in Seahawks history.

Way down.

Until the week before the NFC Championship Game, I barely knew who Locklear was. But he made national news by being charged with domestic violence after an incident with his girlfriend outside a Seattle nightclub. He did a couple of nights in jail, but coach Mike Holmgren allowed him to play pending his Feb. 13 hearing.

Now Locklear will be forever remembered in your fair city for an entirely different reason.

Holding, No. 75!

On the replay, I couldn't see Locklear do anything different from what most linemen do on every play. These days, you have to tackle to hold, and Locklear didn't tackle.

Phantom, killer penalty.

Your guys wound up in a third-and-18, and Hasselbeck cut loose one of his mystery balls that Ike Taylor intercepted, as he should have in the first quarter. Worse, Hasselbeck was wrongly flagged for a below-the-waist block when he was trying to make the tackle. Hasselbeck was punished 15 more yards.

At that point, your guys seemed to be hanging their heads as if they had decided the NFL just couldn't live with them winning its showcase game.

Moments later, it took another Pittsburgh trick play -- a reverse pass by Antwaan Randle El to Hines Ward for a 43-yard touchdown -- to basically ice the game on a snowy night. That made it 21-10, and that's the way it stayed.

Too bad your Seahawks didn't have Porter in their postgame locker room. Had he been a Seahawk, he surely would have filled tapes and notebooks telling the media how the refs stole the game.

Jackson definitely gave Steelers safety Chris Hope a little push. But it didn't give Jackson enough of an advantage to prompt a penalty. The ref called it only after Hope turned and begged for it.

That cost your team four points, a little momentum and a little more psychological edge. The Pittsburgh offense isn't built to come from behind or to win a shootout. A 7-0 Seattle lead would have tightened the Steelers' throats more than 3-0 would have.

The holding call on Locklear clearly cost your Seahawks seven more points. Four plus seven equals 11 -- Pittsburgh's margin of victory. And who knows how the Steelers would have responded if they had suddenly found themselves behind early in the fourth quarter?

No, I haven't yet mentioned Roethlisberger's dive for the goal line that was ruled a touchdown late in the first half -- and upheld after a replay review. To me, it looked as if the nose of the ball barely crossed the white line while Roethlisberger was airborne. Either way, it was so close that it was inconclusive and didn't warrant a touchdown reversal.

Besides, the odds were that Pittsburgh could have scored on fourth-and-inches. Then again, Cowher can be so conservative that he might have opted for the field goal that would have only tied the score 3-3.

The Jackson play, the Roethlisberger play, the Locklear play -- as the Rolling Stones sang in their halftime finale, you couldn't get no satisfaction, Seahawks fans.

Your team had only one turnover to Pittsburgh's two … and your team lost.

Your team held Roethlisberger to a 9-for-21 night for only 123 yards, with two interceptions … and your team lost.

Your Shaun Alexander surprised me by running for almost 100 yards (95 on 25 carries) … and your team lost.

Your offense had almost 400 yards (396) against that vaunted Steelers defense … and your team lost.

In the end, it lost because of two bad calls and because Pittsburgh simply made three or four more good plays. The Steelers converted 8 of 15 third downs to your 5 of 17. Too many drops and near-TD catches, too many off-target flings by Hasselbeck at crucial times, too much high-schoolish clock management by the quarterback and coach at the end of the half and game.

I'm sorry, I still don't think he's a top-echelon quarterback. Then again, I'm not convinced Roethlisberger is the next Elway.

The play he made that salvaged a first-half lead for the Steelers -- the scramble left and deep heave from barely behind the line of scrimmage -- should have been batted down or even intercepted by your safety Michael Boulware. Instead, Boulware made a poor play on the ball and Ward caught it.

On Randle El's trick touchdown pass -- Pittsburgh's best pass of the night -- your cornerback Marcus Trufant took a bad angle and ran underneath it.

So two bad plays by your defensive backs helped Ward -- who had dropped two passes, including one that should have been a touchdown -- win the MVP award. Oh, well, it was the kind of game that should have been played in Week 9. The Steelers didn't have one player on offense or defense who was clearly the difference maker.

Your Seahawks lost this game a little more than Pittsburgh won it.

Your defense battled its guts out and mostly stuffed Pittsburgh's run. But one breakdown allowed Willie Parker to escape untouched for a 75-yard TD. You can't overcome mistakes like that in a game like this.

But, no, you can't overcome 11 lost points worth of penalties, either. On this night, you belonged in the Super Bowl as much as Pittsburgh did, for what that's worth.

On this night, the only frauds wore stripes.

rockin500
02-06-2006, 06:01 PM
typical bayless Drivel.

Royce
02-06-2006, 06:04 PM
Hahaha. I only posted it for arguments sake.

I Are Baboon
02-06-2006, 06:06 PM
Anything that has Skip Bayless's name attached to it should be used for toilet paper.

Spitball67
02-06-2006, 06:08 PM
I swear if I hear one more dumbass that calls himself a football expert describe Darrell Jackson's penalty a "little push", I'm going to personally go out and kick their arse. "Little push", "Big Push", it's still a "push" and still a penalty no matter how you micro-dissect it. Learn the rules Skip Bayless you friggin dope!

Royce
02-06-2006, 06:12 PM
Anything that has Skip Bayless's name attached to it should be used for toilet paper.

Print this thread out then. :thumbsup:

Tigers#1
02-06-2006, 06:16 PM
Here's his article from a week ago. He's just another journalist looking to get noticed.



By Skip Bayless
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DETROIT -- I'm writing this as I travel to my 31st consecutive Super Bowl.

This has always been my second favorite sports event -- The Masters wins by a single blade of Augusta National grass. But this year, the Super Bowl is beginning to feel like the Indy 500 without Danica.

Super Bowl XL is anything but Extra Large. For most fans who aren't Seahawks or Steelers fans, this matchup seems like it should be returned and exchanged.

If you love your Seahawks or your Steelers, please quit reading now. This isn't for you. This is for everyone else out there who is trying -- and trying -- to get excited about the NFL's showcase game. I sense less buzz about this Super Bowl than any I've attended. If any Roman-numeral game has ever deserved only one week of buildup, it was this one.

Super Bowl life ends at 40?

While Seahawks fans are sleepless in Seattle, media members are sleepy in Detroit. Somehow, the Seahawks and Steelers in Detroit seems like a consolation game. After three sensational weekends of playoffs, this is an anticlimax. Now we're paying the price for all those upsets.

How can these teams ever generate enough star power to live up to the telecast's Oscar-worthy commercials?

No Peyton or Brady or Vick or buzz.

No rivalry or bad blood or controversy or buzz.

Only zzz.

These Super Bowl highlights shouldn't be immortalized by the towering tones of John Facenda. Shelley Duval should narrate: "Once upon a time, there were two teams..."

The problem here is that, for the first time, the Super Bowl features two underdogs, two Cinderellas, two teams that came from nowhere on destiny-kissed rolls. One underdog can make for a can't-put-it-down script -- see some kid named Brady vs. Kurt Warner's "unstoppable" St. Louis Rams four years ago. But though this year's point spread is Pittsburgh by 4½, this feels like a game without a favorite.

The Steelers, the first sixth seed to make it to the Super Bowl, barely made the playoffs thanks to a fairly easy closing schedule. They beat Kyle Orton's Bears in a snowstorm in Pittsburgh, then took care of Minnesota, Cleveland and Detroit.

But would they have won their first playoff game, in Cincinnati, if Bengals quarterback Carson Palmer hadn't been hurt on his second play? Doubtful. Would they have finished off the season's most shocking upset, in Indianapolis, if Colts cornerback Nick Harper hadn't weaved back into a sprawling ankle tackle by Steelers quarterback Ben Roethlisberger? No. Would the Steelers have been able to win in Foxborough if the Broncos hadn't upset the Patriots the week before in Denver? Highly doubtful. Would the Steelers have won in Denver if an early poor pass by Roethlisberger had been picked off in the flat by Champ Bailey and returned for a stadium-rocking touchdown? Probably not.

And now the AFC's sixth seed is favored over the NFC's top seed? This feels like a moderately interesting, Week 9 nonconference game.

Would the Seahawks have risen from 2-2 to home-field playoff advantage if Terrell Owens hadn't torn apart the Eagles? If Michael Vick hadn't regressed? If the Giants, Redskins and Cowboys hadn't been forced to do battle twice in the East and the Panthers, Bucs and Falcons hadn't beaten each other up in the South?

Things just kept breaking right for the Seahawks. Without bye weeks, the Redskins and Panthers were banged up before playoff games in Seattle -- where the Seahawks' 12th Man gives them the NFL's loudest and strongest home-field advantage.

Now we should write odes to a team whose MVP just might have been its fans? Who won't be much of a factor in Detroit?

A year ago, we had enough subplots to last us three weeks. We had the Belichick-Brady dynasty vs. the T.O.-McNabb Eagles. Would Owens' ankle and fibula miraculously heal in time for the game? Would Patriots enforcer Rodney Harrison separate Freddie Mitchell's head from his body after FredEx couldn't even remember his name?

I can't believe I'm writing this, but I'm starting to miss T.O.

This is a game without an established superstar -- unless you count Seattle left tackle Walter Jones, the lone cinch Hall of Famer. Pittsburgh's Jerome Bettis is not -- not after never leading his league in rushing and never having transcendent postseason impact. Bettis, a six-time Pro Bowl player, has been very good. Not great.

Bettis' returning to his hometown to play in his first Super Bowl in what probably is his final game is a nice story. But that doesn't make him Jim Brown or Walter Payton or O.J. Simpson or Emmitt Smith.

As much as I respect the Rooney family, I couldn't help chuckling the other day when Steelers owner Dan Rooney compared this team to the Terry Bradshaw team that won its first of four Super Bowls. Come on. That team had nine future Hall of Famers -- Bradshaw at that point being the least likely candidate.

Best case, this Steelers team has three candidates -- Bettis, Roethlisberger and Troy Polamalu.

Roethlisberger has the best chance of becoming this game's breakout Madison Avenue star. But as good as he is in his second season, it's laughable to hear angle-starved commentators already reaching to compare him with a young Marino or Elway. Calm down. Roethlisberger doesn't have Marino's trigger or Elway's mobility or either one's velocity. First let's see if Big Ben can beat the Seahawks.

Strictly from a football standpoint, this matchup is pretty intriguing. You have two pretty good, very hot teams that didn't play each other. Will the Seahawks be able to stand up to the spotlight and play as fast and furiously as they did at home? Will the "new" Steelers continue to be pass-first?

Whoops, another puncture in our Super Bowl balloon. The black-jerseyed, mud-and-blood Steelers often abandoned their running game early in their playoff road wins and opened up the offense and even resorted to trick plays. Though they're the Super Bowl home team, they've chosen to wear their white road jerseys. Now we don't even have a vaunted bully.

We have two very likable teams and coaches. We have Steelers coach Bill Cowher doing what a desperate, couldn't-win-the-big-one Mack Brown did at Texas -- backing off, loosening up, letting his young quarterback throw the ball. We have Seahawks coach Mike Holmgren, slipping off an early-season hot seat and now admitting he was beginning to doubt his ability.

You can't wait for Sunday, can you.

That's why I'm rooting for Steelers linebacker Joey Porter. Not in Sunday's game, but during Tuesday's media day. Porter is the only player on either team whose mouth is big enough to launch this game back into watercooler America's consciousness.

Please, Joey, say: "It's hard to get excited about playing the Seahawks. They wouldn't have made the playoffs in the AFC."

Please say: "Matt Hasselbeck has a lot of Jake Plummer in him. He rattles in big games."

Please say: "I guarantee we'll win by three touchdowns."

You're our only hope, Joey. Don't let us down.

a_ndrew3000
02-06-2006, 11:37 PM
Anything that has Skip Bayless's name attached to it should be used for toilet paper.
:thumbsup:


That pass interference call wasn't that bad.....I think the league is too touchy-feely now anyways. If the CB had his pinky on him, they would call it...So the same standards should be applied to the WR.

Eva
02-07-2006, 12:18 AM
I think Woody Paige is out there, but Skip Bayless makes Paige look reasonable at all times. Shesh, only Seahawks fans and a few writers are whining about the calls. You know, the Seahawks players have yet to whine about the calls. I say yet since I won't be too surprised if we hear them complain soon. Doesn't change the fact that Stevens couldn't catch a thing, even then, nobody really paying attention to calls that went for Seahawks. Bigger calls are the only things getting attention. We know Stevens' fumble, but it was never called.

In short, this game was just called badly by the officials. Nothing much else to say about it. Steelers still beat the Seahawks. The Seahawks played poorly, but also just got out-played by the Steelers. That why you only see a small number of people complaining and Seahawks fans obviously.

Dward00
02-07-2006, 06:29 PM
I wouldn't say the Hawks were robbed but there were 2 plays that I wasn't sure of. The Darrel Jackson TD toss, and the Roethlisberger TD run. Both of those seemed like bad calls, and the announcers seemed to think so too. In fact I was watching the NFL network afterwards and they were pointing out that they were terrible calls. I don't know what's wrong with the NFL refs this year. They're usually the best in the world.

Dward00
02-07-2006, 06:31 PM
In short, this game was just called badly by the officials. Nothing much else to say about it. Steelers still beat the Seahawks. The Seahawks played poorly, but also just got out-played by the Steelers. That why you only see a small number of people complaining and Seahawks fans obviously.


No I would say they both played terribly. I don't think the Seahawks played any worst then Pitt except for the final score.

BPBlueSox
02-07-2006, 07:37 PM
I wouldn't say the Hawks were robbed but there were 2 plays that I wasn't sure of. The Darrel Jackson TD toss, and the Roethlisberger TD run. Both of those seemed like bad calls, and the announcers seemed to think so too. In fact I was watching the NFL network afterwards and they were pointing out that they were terrible calls. I don't know what's wrong with the NFL refs this year. They're usually the best in the world.

1. The dude pushed off. That's gonna get called 50% of the time, probably. Especially right in front of the official.

2. The tip of the ball broke the plane. Go look at a photo.

I'm sick of this whining about the game. People are always trying to make a conspiracy out of nothing.

Durango53
02-07-2006, 07:51 PM
How about the pass that Stevens caught turned around took one step and then fumbled? The officals called the play dead and there was Steelers all over the ball on that one ready to pick it up. But called it dead so they couldnt even look at the replay.

I was watching as a fan of football nothing more and nothing less. I to dont want to hear about a conspiracy issue because the officals was crap both ways.

Thedatch
02-07-2006, 08:11 PM
1. The dude pushed off. That's gonna get called 50% of the time, probably. Especially right in front of the official.

2. The tip of the ball broke the plane. Go look at a photo.

I'm sick of this whining about the game. People are always trying to make a conspiracy out of nothing.

yeah, both calls were the right call. The push off was small, but football is a game of inches, and the stopping of momentum from the push could have made the difference in the play.

As for the touchdown, damn that was close! You have to remember that the call on the field was a touchdown, so they needed clear and credible evidence to overturn it. Also, the referee only overturned like...40 percent of all coaches challenges, so this was pretty much a call he would make.

I think it was the right call. The tip of the ball, regardless of how small it is (and damn it was small) touched the plain, and it was a td.

Royce
02-07-2006, 09:01 PM
1. The dude pushed off. That's gonna get called 50% of the time, probably. Especially right in front of the official.

2. The tip of the ball broke the plane. Go look at a photo.

I'm sick of this whining about the game. People are always trying to make a conspiracy out of nothing.


If calls that made the game went against your team I'm sure you'd be pissed too. Anyone would be. I'm not saying that he didn't push off, cause he did, but not that much. But I doubt that ball cross the goal line. I just don't see the tip crossing the plane at all.

Timberwolf
02-07-2006, 09:32 PM
Look the refs did a lousy job. However, you can't blame the refs if the Seahawks miss some catches that their receivers should have caught.

Royce
02-07-2006, 09:45 PM
That's why the Seahawks haven't gone anywhere the last few years, their WRs.

Timberwolf
02-07-2006, 09:56 PM
Their last best wide receiver was Joey Galloway. They haven't replaced him at all. They got decent receivers, but as you can see, it was Shawn Alexander that really did most of the work. They gotta find someone or hope they improve.

Dward00
02-07-2006, 09:58 PM
The officiating, though, has been a the major topic of discussion since Sunday night. Right after the game, Seahawks coach Mike Holmgren suggested that a first-quarter offensive interference call on the Seahawks' Darrell Jackson, negating what would have been the game's first touchdown, probably should have been "a no call."

Holmgren, a former chairman of the NFL's rule-making competition committee, fueled the debate Monday during a rally for the Seahawks at Qwest Field when he said, "We knew it was going to be tough going up against the Pittsburgh Steelers. I didn't know we were going to have to play the guys in the striped shirts as well."

Well I don't know if I'd call it whining when, as illustrated in this quote, a former chairman of the NFL's rule-making competition committee is saying that the calls sucked. He's probably a little bit more qualified then me, or any of you for that matter.

I was rooting for the Steelers. I'm not qq'ing because my team lost, because my team won. I just have that uncanny ability to be unbiased.

a_ndrew3000
02-08-2006, 12:05 AM
They need to re-vamp some rules next year...

Dward00
02-09-2006, 02:50 PM
It's really sad because I hate to rag on the NFL refs. Even if they sucked this postseason they're still 20 times better then the officials in the NBA, and MLB combined.

If the calls had been called correctly during the superbowl Seatle very much could have won. Truth being, both teams played about the same: Crappy. The only difference was the score.

EDIT: You can't say they were robbed though. They definitely didn't play good enough to win(and neither did Pitt), but yes they could have won if some of those calls hadn't been screwed up.