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Royce
02-07-2006, 09:47 PM
ODDS FOR 2007 SUPER BOWL (from MGM Mirage Race & Sports Book)
TEAM OPENING ODDS ODDS AS OF FEB. 6
Indianapolis Colts 7/2 4/1
Seattle Seahawks 5/1 5/1
New England Patriots 7/2 4/1
Carolina Panthers 6/1 6/1
Pittsburgh Steelers 6/1 6/1
Dallas Cowboys 10/1 10/1
San Diego Chargers 10/1 10/1
Denver Broncos 15/1 10/1
New York Giants 15/1 15/1
Chicago Bears 15/1 15/1
Tampa Bay Buccaneers 15/1 15/1
Cincinnati Bengals 18/1 18/1
Washington Redskins 20/1 20/1
Jacksonville Jaguars 22/1 22/1
Kansas City Chiefs 22/1 22/1
Atlanta Falcons 25/1 25/1
Philadelphia Eagles 25/1 20/1
Miami Dolphins 25/1 20/1
Minnesota Vikings 25/1 25/1
Green Bay Packers 35/1 35/1
Baltimore Ravens 40/1 40/1
Cleveland Browns 50/1 50/1
St. Louis Rams 50/1 50/1
Buffalo Bills 50/1 50/1
Oakland Raiders 60/1 60/1
Arizona Cardinals 60/1 60/1
Detroit Lions 60/1 50/1
Houston Texans 75/1 75/1
New Orleans Saints 75/1 75/1
San Francisco 49ers 100/1 100/1
Tennessee Titans 100/1 100/1
New York Jets 125/1 100/1

Royce
02-07-2006, 09:49 PM
Sry I suck with keeping that junk straight.

Chisox73
02-07-2006, 09:52 PM
Put me down for the Bucs and Bengals.:cool:

Timberwolf
02-07-2006, 09:53 PM
I think Bengals and the Redskins are going to the SB next year with the Bengals winning em all. Carson Palmer will play with a chip on his shoulder.

Dward00
02-07-2006, 10:06 PM
I think those are fair odds. Colts should be 50/1 every year though.

Dward00
02-07-2006, 10:08 PM
BTW the only thing I can't understand is the 10/1 Cowboys odds. I don't think they've earned those types of odds.

Royce
02-07-2006, 10:16 PM
BTW the only thing I can't understand is the 10/1 Cowboys odds. I don't think they've earned those types of odds.


Yeah, same.

Royce
02-07-2006, 10:17 PM
I'm probably biased but if the Dolphins can possibly get T.O. and draft Cutler, I think they can be a very good team next year and they have been a pick of several analysts for a suprise team. If not next year, definately the year after, and they can get some homefield advantage in the Super Bowl in 2009.

Thedatch
02-07-2006, 10:25 PM
patriots...




























:D

Timberwolf
02-07-2006, 10:28 PM
Dolphins will be a playoff team next year. Super Bowl? I think they are a year or two away for that to happen.

Eva
02-08-2006, 11:33 AM
How can you even predict who will win the Super Bowl at this point? Free agent signing and the draft hasn't even happen. Heck, I find it ridiculous the Colts are ranked first. They don't have The Edge signed for next year yet. If the Edge takes his services elsewhere, the Colts are left with Rhodes, I believe. That's not much of a running game.

Lol, unless the Cowboys have T.O., I don't understand how they're ranked that high. Hell, even with T.O., they don't deserve such a ranking with the old wonder of the wonder Blesode as their QB.

Seattle Seahawks have a damn good chance at the Super Bowl next year. Alexander look like he's walking, but Seahawks can re-sign everybody else then. They also have an impressive looking back in Morris. They'll be fine if Alexander walks this season.

I wonder where T.O., Alexander, The Edge and the rest of the big name free agents will sign. Give me a better time looking at what team has a chance to win the SB next year.

indygirl
02-10-2006, 12:44 PM
How can you even predict who will win the Super Bowl at this point? Free agent signing and the draft hasn't even happen. Heck, I find it ridiculous the Colts are ranked first. They don't have The Edge signed for next year yet. If the Edge takes his services elsewhere, the Colts are left with Rhodes, I believe. That's not much of a running game.

how is it ridiculous that the colts are ranked first? granted, i am fully aware of what happened from the san diego game on....but still, no one can say they just "got lucky" this year. the same cannot be said for many of the "better" teams this year.

the colts will sign Edge...no need to even hypothesize as to what would happen if they didn't (although you're right, next in line is Dominic Rhodes). he (Edge) is too valuable to the organization to let him leave. the coaches and the management have finally reached a common ground in balancing out the high-octane offense with a defense that doesn't get laughed at quite so much...so really it's just a number crunching issue and i know they'll figure out a way to keep him.

but, i do agree, it's a little too early to be talking odds for next year - we're not even a week out of the 05 season yet...lol

of course, it's no big surprise who i'd pick -- any day, any game...doesn't matter...i am loyal and true to the blue - even when they embarass themselves (like we did against *ugh* pittsburgh)

Baseball Guru
02-10-2006, 01:17 PM
I see no reason the Steelers can't win it again;)

Eva
02-10-2006, 03:28 PM
You have no clue if they're going to re-sign the Edge or not, so stop pretending you do. Hell, the Colts have made it clear they put the re-signing of Wayne above the re-resigning of the Edge. I think the Colts should re-sign the Edge, like everybody else. I think they can replace Wayne easily with another WR. Look what Manning did in 04.

It's only ridiculous to rank the Colts in first is because the draft and free-agent signings have happen just yet. It's not the fact they're the Colts. After free-agent signings and the draft, then I will accept the Colts as the number 1, depending on what moves they make.

KY-Steeler-Fan
02-11-2006, 12:13 AM
I see no reason the Steelers can't win it again

Im with you. But they are going to have to shore up that run game. I am not sold Parker is da man yet.

And must resign Randal El for the gimick plays and backup for Ward.

indygirl
02-11-2006, 05:30 PM
You have no clue if they're going to re-sign the Edge or not, so stop pretending you do. Hell, the Colts have made it clear they put the re-signing of Wayne above the re-resigning of the Edge. I think the Colts should re-sign the Edge, like everybody else. I think they can replace Wayne easily with another WR. Look what Manning did in 04.
It's only ridiculous to rank the Colts in first is because the draft and free-agent signings have happen just yet. It's not the fact they're the Colts. After free-agent signings and the draft, then I will accept the Colts as the number 1, depending on what moves they make.

wow...and i thought i took things personally...

umm...yeah... -- lighten up just a bit, it's only February. i didn't attack you personally, or tell you that you have no clue what you're talking about (even if that's what i wanted to say). not trying to start a fight, but you're being awfully offensive for this being a friendly discussion...

Eva
02-11-2006, 06:15 PM
wow...and i thought i took things personally...

umm...yeah... -- lighten up just a bit, it's only February. i didn't attack you personally, or tell you that you have no clue what you're talking about (even if that's what i wanted to say). not trying to start a fight, but you're being awfully offensive for this being a friendly discussion...
Nice post that totally had nothing to do with the resigning James and Wayne. :thumbsup:

There was no personal attack in that post, so I really have no clue what you're on about. Go ahead and tell me I have no clue what I'm talking about. I really won't take that offensive and most people won't. :hmm:

If you want to be offend by my opinion, then you're welcome to it, I guess. :confused:

Dward00
02-12-2006, 03:39 AM
I see no reason the Steelers can't win it again;)


Me neither, but I pray to god they get beat into gravvel before I have to hear the same old Pittsburgh biased drivvel from all of you crazy ppl. :nono1:

cxlx
02-13-2006, 09:22 AM
how is it ridiculous that the colts are ranked first? granted, i am fully aware of what happened from the san diego game on....but still, no one can say they just "got lucky" this year. the same cannot be said for many of the "better" teams this year.

the colts will sign Edge...no need to even hypothesize as to what would happen if they didn't (although you're right, next in line is Dominic Rhodes). he (Edge) is too valuable to the organization to let him leave. the coaches and the management have finally reached a common ground in balancing out the high-octane offense with a defense that doesn't get laughed at quite so much...so really it's just a number crunching issue and i know they'll figure out a way to keep him.

but, i do agree, it's a little too early to be talking odds for next year - we're not even a week out of the 05 season yet...lol

of course, it's no big surprise who i'd pick -- any day, any game...doesn't matter...i am loyal and true to the blue - even when they embarass themselves (like we did against *ugh* pittsburgh)

Finally, an Indy fan. :thumbsup:
Its nice to finally have a real Indy fan. The usual Indy/Pats arguements that I get myself involve with are usually Steeler fans. :D
Welcome to the board. :wavey2:

indygirl
02-13-2006, 07:55 PM
Finally, an Indy fan. :thumbsup:
Its nice to finally have a real Indy fan. The usual Indy/Pats arguements that I get myself involve with are usually Steeler fans. :D
Welcome to the board. :wavey2:

why thanks for the welcome. :D at least you didn't jump down my throat about being a colts fan the way most pats fans do...lol

cxlx
02-13-2006, 11:12 PM
why thanks for the welcome. :D at least you didn't jump down my throat about being a colts fan the way most pats fans do...lol

Season's over. ;)

Dward00
02-14-2006, 05:31 AM
I'm picking KC for superbowl.

Good defense + Herm Edwards = SB caliber defense

Best RB in game + Terrell Owens(who i think is going to go to KC) + best OL in football + veteran pro bowl QB = best offense in football

Impossible to win in KC = huge win season

It has upset written all over it.

22/1 odds is so not right

Eva
02-14-2006, 01:53 PM
The Chiefs still have Priest Holmes, but Larry Johnson should be the full-time back next year. Not sure what the Chiefs plan to do with Holmes next season at this point. On Trent Green, you forgot under-rated veteran Pro Bowl QB. Trent Green one of the most solid consistent QB in NFL most people don't give a hoot about.

For my actual pick, I think the Patriots will pull another SB out of their bums. Though, I still want to wait until the draft and free agency all done before I seriously think about who's got the best chance at SB next year.

Royce
02-14-2006, 02:52 PM
T.O. will not land in KC. It's probably going to be Denver or Miami.

http://www.kansascity.com/mld/kansascity/sports/football/nfl/kansas_city_chiefs/13865214.htm

Dward00
02-14-2006, 08:15 PM
well the most talk right now is him landing in KC

Royce
02-14-2006, 09:31 PM
most of the talk is him landing in MIA or DEN

Dward00
02-15-2006, 01:58 PM
It's more or less a decision between KC and Denver. Talks about him joining Miami stopped a long time ago.

KC sounds more interested then Denver right now, but if Denver wants him they'll get him.

He's going to land in KC, and I would bet the odds on that one.

Royce
02-15-2006, 03:15 PM
Talks didn't stop in Miami a while ago. He visited the practice in Miami less than a week ago!

Royce
02-15-2006, 03:17 PM
http://cbs4.com/topstories/local_story_040080440.html

Royce
02-15-2006, 03:18 PM
http://www.sun-sentinel.com/sports/sfl-dolphins15feb15,0,6085664.story?coll=sfla-sports-front

Dward00
02-16-2006, 07:53 PM
Earth to Royce: He's not going to join Miami.


Why? Because they aren't a legitimate super-bowl team.

I'm P-o-s-i-t-i-v-e. There's no way he's going to go to a team that's still 2 years off.


Kansas City, and Miami wants him sure, but he's gonna make a choice and go with KC every time no doubt. Denver is flirting with him, but I don't think they'll make the move.

Royce
02-16-2006, 08:57 PM
Did I say he was going to? No I said he'll PROBABLY either go to Miami or KC. Note: I'm not always right.

imgreat95
02-16-2006, 09:36 PM
Note: I'm not always right.


Oh.. so what you are admitting is that you arent me??

Royce
02-16-2006, 09:38 PM
Exactly. :)

Dward00
02-17-2006, 02:37 AM
I can't believe he's turning 33 though. He has maybe 3 or 4 more good years? No way, with his ego, he's signing with a mediocre team.

Royce
02-17-2006, 02:47 PM
If you're referring to the Dolphins, they're not a mediocre team. They went 9-7 without a QB.

PissedPrincess
02-17-2006, 04:15 PM
Earth to Dward00:D KC is $20 million over the cap. They will not get T.O.

das&kml
02-19-2006, 10:51 PM
Well, the cap is being pushed up $20 million for next season, so the Chiefs can possibly find a way to get T.O. signed. Also, there is a rumor that the salary cap may be abolished in the NFL, just like in the MLB. (Gotta believe Steinbrenner is looking to buy one of the NY teams and spend, spend, spend).

I'm pissed that Bill Polian is choosing to resign/franchise Reggie Wayne and not keep Edgerrin James. The Redskins were going to pursue Wayne and actually have the inside track to get him, with former college teammates Santana Moss and Clinton Portis already on board with the Skins.

If the Skins have any chance of advancing in the playoffs, they need a #1/#2receiver opposite Santana. I don't think T.O.'s antics would fit in Gibbs' system, but a helluva athlete is kinda worth taking a risk with.

Oh, the reason for posting: Going with Joe Theismann's prediction for this past year's Super Bowl for next year's: Skins vs Steelers. Steelers are still good and the defense is solid. With more experience, Roethlisberger will be a Pro-Bowler.

Of course, injuries, free agency, trades, draft, etc have a role to play. I may pull a John Kerry and change my selection before the season starts, but that ain't til September.

rockin500
02-19-2006, 11:32 PM
Earth to Royce: He's not going to join Miami.


Why? Because they aren't a legitimate super-bowl team.

I'm P-o-s-i-t-i-v-e. There's no way he's going to go to a team that's still 2 years off.


Kansas City, and Miami wants him sure, but he's gonna make a choice and go with KC every time no doubt. Denver is flirting with him, but I don't think they'll make the move.
whats the difference? KC isnt a super bowl caliber team either. at least not on par with New England, Pittsburgh, Indy, or Cincy.

as jacqui mentioned, KC doesnt have the cap space for him and they have more holes on that team than Wide Receiver. If they do sign TO, they still arent going to be significantly improved.

Dward00
02-19-2006, 11:45 PM
whats the difference? KC isnt a super bowl caliber team either. at least not on par with New England, Pittsburgh, Indy, or Cincy.

as jacqui mentioned, KC doesnt have the cap space for him and they have more holes on that team than Wide Receiver. If they do sign TO, they still arent going to be significantly improved.

Rockin500 you were probably saying the same thing about New England in the 2001 offseason right before they went on to win the NFL championship. If you want to impress me then back up something that isn't a proven commodity. That would mean you'd have to not be afraid of being wrong.

If you actually read what I posted above you'll see that signing T.O. was the least of the reasons that I thought KC would be a great team next year. Even if they don't sign T.O. I'm still picking them to at least come close to sb gold. They have a lot of upsides that I think are favorable, and a lot of people on that team with stuff to prove.

And to back up my claim that there's no way that he's going to Miami: As critical as he is about his teams quarterbacks[Garcia, and Mcnabb], do you really think he's going to be interested in a team with the worst stable of QB's in the league?[debatable]

rockin500
02-20-2006, 12:15 AM
i dont think he's going to miami myself. they will be a playoff team next year (or at least contend) but you are right that they dont have a QB. not to mention i dont think Saban would be willing to really take that big of a gamble on him.

btw, i thought new england had a good team before that super bowl run. pretty good receivers, good QB (if injury prone as I thought Bledsoe if healthy could lead the team to the playoffs) very good defense, and a decent running attack.

The problem with KC is their defense. its pretty hard to change that overnight. Obviously, with Larry Johnson, their running game is strong, and their passing game is strong too. But do they have playmakers enough on defense? I dont care how good herm edwards is at coaching defense, if he doesnt have the players, you arent going to stop the other team.

Dward00
02-20-2006, 01:16 AM
i dont think he's going to miami myself. they will be a playoff team next year (or at least contend) but you are right that they dont have a QB. not to mention i dont think Saban would be willing to really take that big of a gamble on him.

btw, i thought new england had a good team before that super bowl run. pretty good receivers, good QB (if injury prone as I thought Bledsoe if healthy could lead the team to the playoffs) very good defense, and a decent running attack.

The problem with KC is their defense. its pretty hard to change that overnight. Obviously, with Larry Johnson, their running game is strong, and their passing game is strong too. But do they have playmakers enough on defense? I dont care how good herm edwards is at coaching defense, if he doesnt have the players, you arent going to stop the other team.


Thank you. Yes that is the question. Can the defense perform? They're not a terrible defense. They do have some defensive playmakers. Kendrell Bell, Shawn Barber, Ashley Ambrose, and Sammy Knight are all capable. They have a lot of young players that could possibly have breakout seasons also.

Seeing if Herm Edwards can reinvigorate them and have them playing good is key. Remember that the Detroit Pistons couldn't play offense before they picked up Flip Saunders this season? You can say comparing the NBA to the NFL is apple and oranges but I don't see it that way. Coaches can make a huge impact in any sport.

But yes this is an unpopular oppinion with K.C., and really all I started out saying is that for those reasons alone this has the potential to be a breakout season for K.C.

Dward00
03-09-2006, 01:32 PM
Kansas City seems to be emerging as Terrell Owens' most likely destination. -- Philadelphia Daily News.


That's a new rumor, but anyways I'd like to say: In your face! :wave1:

I don't know why I"m always right. It's a curse. :lightning

Royce
03-09-2006, 08:07 PM
That's a new rumor, but anyways I'd like to say: In your face! :wave1:

I don't know why I"m always right. It's a curse. :lightning


...Rumor...weren't the Yankees supposed to trade Sheffield last year?

Dward00
03-11-2006, 12:34 AM
shrug..........wait and see what happens.

Royce
03-11-2006, 01:13 PM
He's most likey going to the Broncos or Cowboys, according to ESPN.

Dward00
03-11-2006, 07:37 PM
It's really hard to find any solid information on it right now. I been trying.

Sports Convo
03-19-2006, 12:12 AM
TO signs with Dallas

Dward00
03-24-2006, 04:47 PM
10. Vince McMahon[as NFL commisioner]: OK, so the XFL wasn't a hit. Can't a guy get a second chance? Donald Trump was a prominent USFL figure and nobody seems to hold that against him. Who knows more about the sports-entertainment field than McMahon? Conspiracy theorists, such as those who still insist in all seriousness that the NFL actively tried to hand the Super Bowl to Jerome Bettis and the Steelers, would be in clover for years if pro wrestling's poobah sat in the commissioner's chair.



:wazup:

DPark1
03-31-2006, 11:38 PM
i agree, vegas posting odds before fa and the draft is ridiculous; anywhoo, i like NYG in the NFC and KC in the AFC