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Dward00
02-20-2006, 02:34 AM
I think it's Cutler. The recent mock draft* has Reggie Bush going 1, then Leinart, Cutler, and Young.
EDIT: *recent sports illustrated mock draft
The order in which Cutler, Leinart and Young is still up the air. Though, I'm going with Leinart to the Saints, Young to the Titans and Cutler to Jets. Of course, Reggie would go first still. Though, it's still up in the air which QB will go first.
Dward00
02-20-2006, 05:35 AM
The Sports Illustrated mock draft created by Don Banks just last Friday has Reggie bush going 1, then Leinart, Cutler, and young. There's quite a few that don't have Cutler that high though. Some people are even picking Cutler to go low enough for Miami to pickup, and yes having young go to Tenessee.
But anyways this isn't about how you think the draft is going to go. It's about who do you think is the best QB in the draft? If you remember I believe Ben Roethlisburger was pick 18 in his draft, and now he's probably popularly considered the best QB from that draft.
I should have made this a poll.
Dward00
02-20-2006, 05:46 AM
One of the reasons I'm picking Cutler is because I've been reading on how he's outperformed Leinart, and Young at the NFL combine from quite a few articles. I personally think the combine is nicely accurate with quarterbacks more so then other positions.
I'm a fan of results over hype so that's 1 good reason for me to go with Cutler. That's why I'm not a fan of Michael Vick.
I'm not going to rip Leinart, or Young[even though there's a few things I can think of] because i don't want it to be a 'omg i have to defend my QB thread'. Not yet anyways. :)
Timberwolf
02-20-2006, 09:43 AM
I will go with Vince Young as the best QB in the draft.
Royce
02-20-2006, 11:53 AM
The order in which Cutler, Leinart and Young is still up the air. Though, I'm going with Leinart to the Saints, Young to the Titans and Cutler to Jets. Of course, Reggie would go first still. Though, it's still up in the air which QB will go first.
D'Brickashaw is going to go the Jets I think.
a_ndrew3000
02-20-2006, 02:03 PM
I'm a fan of results over hype so that's 1 good reason for me to go with Cutler. That's why I'm not a fan of Michael Vick.
What has Cutler done? I see three national championships between Leinart and Young. Those are results. I will say that Cutler was a good player on a poor team, but you have to admit the combine is way overhyped. Alex Smith had a great combine.
Leinart, then Young for me.
Dward00
02-20-2006, 04:41 PM
What has Cutler done? I see three national championships between Leinart and Young. Those are results. I will say that Cutler was a good player on a poor team, but you have to admit the combine is way overhyped. Alex Smith had a great combine.
Leinart, then Young for me.
Well I never put any stock in heisman trophies or ncaa championships or anything like that.
Tigers#1
02-20-2006, 05:21 PM
What has Cutler done? I see three national championships between Leinart and Young. Those are results. I will say that Cutler was a good player on a poor team, but you have to admit the combine is way overhyped. Alex Smith had a great combine.
Leinart, then Young for me.
You mean like Jason White, Matt Mauck, Ken Dorsey, Craig Krenzel, Eric Crouch, Josh Heupel, Chris Weinke, and Tee Martin?
Dward00
02-20-2006, 06:16 PM
Cutler is going to be the next Favre. :thumbsup:
EDIT: And I think Tenessee will take him.
a_ndrew3000
02-20-2006, 07:58 PM
You mean like Jason White, Matt Mauck, Ken Dorsey, Craig Krenzel, Eric Crouch, Josh Heupel, Chris Weinke, and Tee Martin?
Did I mention any of those guys?
Anyone with some common sense would know that Leinart and Young are much better prospects than anyone on that list.
Leinart was better than Palmer with the same system. Young put up better
numbers than Vick. Is that better?
Tigers#1
02-20-2006, 08:06 PM
All you said was those 2 were better than Cutler because they have 3 national championships between them, and those are results.
And the combine hasn't started yet.
Royce
02-20-2006, 11:17 PM
Young throws weird.:confused:
Dward00
02-21-2006, 04:21 AM
and leinart has a weak arm. David Klingler anyone? :thumbsup:
Could Vince Young could be the improved verison of Mike Vick?
I don't know why, but I have a feeling Leinart just going to be another QB in the NFL. Though, I still think the Saints would take him with their second pick of the draft, pass up on Cutler and Young.
rockin500
02-21-2006, 01:36 PM
The saints will pick Leinart. I dont think they will take Young since they've already had one attempt at a mobile QB and we all saw how that turned out. Leinart is pretty damned polished and while he doesnt have the strongest arm in the world, its still good enough (not to mention Stronger than Pennington's). Remember, there arent too many arms in the class of Elway, Favre and Marino. Leinart is accurate (Young is too, I admit) and that counts for a lot in the pros. If you cant complete more than 58% of your passes, it doesnt matter how strong your arm is.
Durango53
02-21-2006, 01:46 PM
The saints will pick Leinart. I dont think they will take Young since they've already had one attempt at a mobile QB and we all saw how that turned out.
I agree.... :thumbsup:
a_ndrew3000
02-21-2006, 01:55 PM
and leinart has a weak arm. David Klingler anyone? :thumbsup:
Joe Montana had a "weak" arm too.:thumbsup:
Mr. Met on Pot
02-21-2006, 03:38 PM
Young throws weird.:confused:
Damon throws weird....
Royce
02-21-2006, 03:46 PM
Damon isn't a quarterback in the NFL Draft. And he actually gets on base like a leadoff man should.
:yadda:
:doublefin
Dward00
02-23-2006, 05:30 AM
I think you pick Cutler over Leinart and Young if you have the number 2 pick for the same reason Indy picked Edgerrin James over Ricky Williams.
Dward00
02-23-2006, 05:33 AM
However if he drops to number 5 that would be really cool. The Packers could pick him up, and beg Favre to come back 1 more year to show Cutler everything he knows. He could sit the season as Favre's backup.
:uzi: :spam: Die spam-man die!!!!!!!!
Why would the Packers pick up Cutler or any QB in the first round when they drafted Aaron Rodgers last year during the first round?
Dward00
02-23-2006, 12:52 PM
I don't think they're too interested in Rodgers. All the articles I've read, and all the shows I've seen focusing on Favre's retirement keep saying the Pack want to know if he's retiring or not because they might want to draft a QB in the first round. You're aware of this right?
I don't think they're too interested in Rodgers. All the articles I've read, and all the shows I've seen focusing on Favre's retirement keep saying the Pack want to know if he's retiring or not because they might want to draft a QB in the first round. You're aware of this right?
Because articles say they're not interested in Rodgers, it must be true? Are you aware that articles in newspaper and online sites are not always true?
Drafting Culter mean they gave up on Rodgers, who only threw 16 passes last season. I doubt any team would call it quits on a first round draft pick after he threw only 16 passes total the previous season. Drafting another QB would defeat the purpose of even bother with Rodgers. Are you aware that drafting Cutler makes no sense from Packers' standpoint? Not like Cutler has all the hype of becoming a great NFL player. :hmm:
You know, media like to say a players ''done'' even though he had limited playing time during his rookie season.
Dward00
02-24-2006, 05:31 PM
Because articles say they're not interested in Rodgers, it must be true? Are you aware that articles in newspaper and online sites are not always true? .
ummmm....what's your point? There's probably just as good a chance that it's being reported correctly.
If you don't get your information from articles, tv, and the internet then where do you get it evangelion? Do you work for the NFL? :lmao:
Drafting Culter mean they gave up on Rodgers, who only threw 16 passes last season. I doubt any team would call it quits on a first round draft pick after he threw only 16 passes total the previous season. Drafting another QB would defeat the purpose of even bother with Rodgers. Are you aware that drafting Cutler makes no sense from Packers' standpoint? Not like Cutler has all the hype of becoming a great NFL player. :hmm:
Not like it hasn't happened before. I said 'wouldn't it be cool if they drafted cutler' because i didn't think they would. If i thought they would draft cutler I'd say: The packers should draft Cutler. Dig?
Oh....and are you aware that you're overusing the 'are you aware' phrase?
Dward00
02-24-2006, 05:36 PM
Making fun of me for getting information from tv, articles, and the internet would be highly hypocritical from anyone. :wave1:
ummmm....what's your point? There's probably just as good a chance that it's being reported correctly.
Point being newspaper articles and online sites are not always true. Just like I said in my previous point. Why did I bring that up? Becuase you said you read in articles that Packers are no longer interested in Aaron Rodgers, while I just look at the simple fact that Aaron Rodgers is a first round pick last season, threw 16 passes total last season and didn't start a singal game last season. I don't need articles to tell me that it would make no sense the Packers would have lost interest in Aaron Rodgers after seeing so little on him last season.
If you don't get your information from articles, tv, and the internet then where do you get it evangelion? Do you work for the NFL?
Wasn't aware I said I didn't get my information from articles and online sites in my previous post. I think I just said that articles and online sites are not always true. Don't recall saying they're never use them.
No, I don't work for the NFL. I'm just trying to discuss this subject with you without having to take cheap shot at you, because I disagree with what you're saying. If it makes you feel better, you're welcome to continue making smart ass comments. They really don't bother me all that much.
Not like it hasn't happened before. I said 'wouldn't it be cool if they drafted cutler' because i didn't think they would. If i thought they would draft cutler I'd say: The packers should draft Cutler. Dig?
I'm discussing why would the Packers would draft Cutler or not. That's all there is to that.
Oh....and are you aware that you're overusing the 'are you aware' phrase?
This matters because...? Does phrase ''are you aware'' bothers you?
Making fun of me for getting information from tv, articles, and the internet would be highly hypocritical from anyone.
Who's making fun of you? If I was making fun of you, then I tell you're a moron for getting your information from articles and online sites. I just stated that they're not always true. Nothing more to it than that.
Dward00
02-24-2006, 07:54 PM
Usually if you get the same information from more then one medium there definitely is a legitimacy to it. I think anyone that's read anything about the Favre retirement has seen that it's a possibility they're interested in drafting another QB. I would grade it a little bit above a rumour, or media corruption. That's the only reason I brought it up. Maybe they have given up on Rodgers. I'm sure I'm not the only one to believe this.
The reason I thought it would be cool to have Favre coaching Cutler is because I think Cutler has a lot of the gifts that made Favre a great QB in the NFL.
Either way I don't really care about this subject nearly as much as it seems you do.
Why don't you stay to subject and tell us who you think the best QB in the draft is going to be?
Not really the fact I care. Just the fact I enjoy discuss issues, but if you don't really care, then that's fine. I'll stop discuss that issue.
Who I think the best QB in the draft? I have to go with Vince Young myself. While he does have odd delivery, I think he has everything Vick has and more. He has the potential to become a good QB in NFL and much better a QB than Vick. Though, it depend on what team he's drafted by. I think the Titans, if they drafted Young, can build a team around Young while McNair coaches him. Don't really see much of future for Young if he ends up with the Saints. He might just become another Aaron Brooks then.
I don't really like Leinhart being that he was surround by great talent at USC. I don't see what all the hype about Cutler about.
a_ndrew3000
02-25-2006, 02:38 PM
The Packers will not draft another QB in the first few rounds. If they do, they are stupid.
Actually, drafting Rodgers was stupid because I don't think he will ever be very good (Tedford QB). They will give him a couple of years of failing before they get a new QB.
Dward00
02-26-2006, 02:42 AM
I can't wait to find out how these QB's do. This has got to be the best draft for QB's in a long time. And look at the variety. They all 3 have different play styles.
I mean isn't next year going to be exciting to see how well they do? I wonder if any of them are going to start their rookie seasons. I think all 3 should, and that would be interesting.
ultimatesb
02-27-2006, 09:52 AM
I like Vince Young as the best QB in the upcoming draft... Just my opinion hope no one jumps on me about it
Dward00
03-14-2006, 12:45 PM
Well now ppl are talking about Vince Young dropping out of the top 10, and Jay Cutler going to the Titans with the 3rd pick.
a_ndrew3000
03-14-2006, 01:16 PM
Who is saying that?
Mel Kiper said that Cutler was part of the "Hype Machine". He will be a Cardinal. Kiper knows all. :)
Dward00
03-14-2006, 04:36 PM
sports illustrated and yahoo. I haven't watched the nfl network yet. Do I know what's going to happen? No idea, and I doubt Cutler is going to be in the top 10 because I think most teams are going to buy that 'hype machine bs' and let him drop.
I thought Leinhart was predicted to go to the Titans, not Cutler. Isn't the offensive coordinator of the Titans, the former offensive coordinator for one year of Leinhart at USC? Vince Young would go to the Jets, unless they solve their QB problem before the draft.
Remember, Cutler and the Cardinals would be a great fit. If Cutler really that good, I think a lot of people, include Cutler himself, would love to go to a team that just brought a the Edge in and have two sick WR in Boldin and Fitzgerald.
Dward00
03-18-2006, 01:40 AM
I thought Leinhart was predicted to go to the Titans, not Cutler. Isn't the offensive coordinator of the Titans, the former offensive coordinator for one year of Leinhart at USC? Vince Young would go to the Jets, unless they solve their QB problem before the draft.
Remember, Cutler and the Cardinals would be a great fit. If Cutler really that good, I think a lot of people, include Cutler himself, would love to go to a team that just brought a the Edge in and have two sick WR in Boldin and Fitzgerald.
Well everybody seems to have written off Vince Young now. They think he's retarded for his score on the wonderlick[explanation for name plz] I guess? Weird.......but he's expected to drop out of the top 10.
Sports Convo
03-19-2006, 12:05 AM
i'd say Leinart, then Culter, then Young
Leinart just has the most experience and 2 championships and a heisman
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