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mets81_2000
07-11-2001, 09:59 PM
I have a feeling that baseball officials paid off Chan Ho park to groove one to Cal Ripken, it is so obvious that major league baseball wanted to make a big deal out of Ripkin retiring , what are the odds that Ripken hits a homer on the first pitch he sees and also wins the MVP award???

Also how pathetic was Bud Selig for saying Ripken was among a handful of players to have more than 400 RBI , when this guy talks i try to block him out , he is a disgrace and an embarasment to baseball

pmeares17
07-11-2001, 10:54 PM
i got the impression to that a lot of the memories were orchestrated in that game. the way at the beggining they were saying oh theres going to be memories made tonight :). not that cal ripkin didn't deserve the award but that pitch looked decidedly slow and down the middle of the plate :). and notice how they went on and on about ethnicness of the game and isnt chan ho park asian or something?

redsoxfan45
07-11-2001, 11:54 PM
I don't think it was rigged. He just happened to hit it out. No conspiracy.

Besides, how could it possible be rigged? It's hard to hit one out of Safeco, just ask Sammy Sosa, Troy Glaus, Todd Helton, or anyone else that took part in the HR Derby (besides Giambi and Gonzo). Just enjoy the moment for what it was.

Nanner
07-12-2001, 12:25 AM
Originally posted by mets81_2000
I have a feeling that baseball officials paid off Chan Ho park to groove one to Cal Ripken, it is so obvious that major league baseball wanted to make a big deal out of Ripkin retiring , what are the odds that Ripken hits a homer on the first pitch he sees and also wins the MVP award???

Also how pathetic was Bud Selig for saying Ripken was among a handful of players to have more than 400 RBI , when this guy talks i try to block him out , he is a disgrace and an embarasment to baseball

HEY! Geesh!

:angry: :eviltongu

Don't go using words like "paid off" when you "just have a feeling"... and don't have proof.

... and even if Chan Ho Park grooved one to Cal on his own, the man still had to hit it, didn't he.

A little respect, please, for a man who's played for 20 years, with the same team and has remained a class act throughout his career...

Frankly I thought the All-Star Game was more entertaining and enjoyable this year than in a long while. It is a showcase... the fans vote on the main guys, the guys have fun doing it... it's an honor to go... and it was Cal's last appearance.

Sheesh.:hmm: Whippersnapper...:P

However, I will agree with you on Bud Selig. Hey, Bud, get your facts straight... if you're giving an award to somebody, get your dang facts straight!!!:uzi:

GiveHyzduashot
07-12-2001, 12:49 AM
I'm not buying into the Ripken conspiracy for a for a couple of reasons. One, a 400 foot homerun is legitamit anywhere ... but especially in Safeco. Two, the guy following Ripken hit the ball hard off him too so it's not like Ripken pounded it and nobody else made good contact. If that were the case then there's more of a base for this conspiracy.

I've gotta agree on Bud. Here he is honoring the two of the better players to play the game and he messed up If I were in his situation, I'd be 100% certain I did not mess up. Shame on Selig.

Nanner
07-12-2001, 01:40 AM
Originally posted by GiveHyzduashot
... One, a 400 foot homerun is legitamit anywhere ... but especially in Safeco. Two, the guy following Ripken hit the ball hard off him too so it's not like Ripken pounded it and nobody else made good contact. ....

Exactly!

Here are a couple of quotes from Thomas Boswell's column in today's Washington Post:

"In game No. 2,129 of his consecutive-games streak, Ripken homered. Everybody said, "How nice." In game No. 2,130, he homered again. Everybody said, "That's amazing." In game No. 2,131, with the whole sports world watching, Ripken homered once more. Nobody said a word. They had all fainted.

That's how it was here. As Ripken practically dashed around the bases, like a kid so bursting with joy that he couldn't stop his feet from racing, the faces in the American League dugout were almost blank with delighted amazement."

(This is just something Ripken seems to do. At dramatic times, he hits homeruns!)

"Some may say of the home-run pitch, "I bet Park grooved it." Maybe, though probably not. The point is Ripken parked it. Pitchers try to get ahead with first-pitch fastballs for strikes a dozen times a game. How many guys hit 'em into John Burkett's glove deep in the National League bullpen?"

:biggrin:

pmeares17
07-12-2001, 10:59 AM
i guess since he is getting old even a good pitch he would still have to hit.

mets81_2000
07-12-2001, 03:34 PM
I think the ball Ripken hit was attached to a string which was comming from John Burkett's glove, did anyone notice how Burkette just happened to be in the bullpen and the ball magically appeared in his glove??:confused:

Ok im just playin but Ripken had to know what was comming so i still stick to the part that Chan Ho Park was paid off to groove one to Ripken , but still like you all say he still had to hit it .

Also i think one of the yankees are going to groove a pitch to Cal during his last at bat of the season

GiveHyzduashot
07-12-2001, 04:03 PM
mets81, if you hold to Park being payed off to groove one to Cal, how do you explain the next batter ( I think it was Pudge) hitting the ball hard off Park too? And even if Park deliberately threw one down the middle, it is still tough to get your bat around on a 95 MPH pitch.

mets81_2000
07-12-2001, 04:11 PM
well if you know whats comming it isnt so hard to hit it , but i dont think it was a 95 mph fastball , but hey you have to admit it was very suspicious and maybe Park let Pudge hit it hard so people would think he didnt have his best stuff that night there for ruling out the possibility that he grooved one to Cal , also Jason Giambi said after the game that on his last at bat someone should "groove " one to him so he can hit a homerun in his final at bat....why would he bring that up ??? more little hints of a grooving here

GiveHyzduashot
07-12-2001, 04:29 PM
The pitch he threw was a fastball, and Park throws in the low to mid 90's. I don't think Park would let Pudge hit it hard just to cover himself up, it doesn't seem like something he'd do.

About Giambi, people say stuff like that a lot but it never happens.

Yankee 21
07-12-2001, 06:54 PM
God fobid you might just give Cal the credit he deserves for hitting an awesome homerun! No way Park gave him one! Cal wouldn't have been as excited about hitting it if it was handed to him! He's a true ball player and he's not going to accept a homer that's given to him!

Nanner
07-12-2001, 11:55 PM
Originally posted by mets81_2000
well if you know whats comming it isnt so hard to hit it , but i dont think it was a 95 mph fastball , but hey you have to admit it was very suspicious and maybe Park let Pudge hit it hard so people would think he didnt have his best stuff that night there for ruling out the possibility that he grooved one to Cal , also Jason Giambi said after the game that on his last at bat someone should "groove " one to him so he can hit a homerun in his final at bat....why would he bring that up ??? more little hints of a grooving here

Good Lord! Who are you, Oliver Stone?! For God's sake... you're spending an awful lot of time building up this huge "conspiracy" theory, talking about being "paid off"...

Geez. What... are you really bored or something?

As Kellye said, give the man his due. He hits homeruns in dramatic situations. That's what he does. He's been doing it all his baseball life.

You're really gettin' me a little riled here, Kid:angry:

pmeares17
07-13-2001, 12:21 AM
wouldnt you feel cheated if park gave cal a goof pitch to hit? even though it doesnt take away from what kind of player and impact he had it does seem a little suspicuous. trust me


the truth is out there:uhoh: :devillook :devillook :freak:

Nanner
07-13-2001, 07:17 AM
Oh, puhleese!!!:hmm: :P :uzi:

You wanna start talking conspiracies, let's talk about a real conspiracy... I think we should look into the whole James and the squirrels thing. Hmmm? How about that little conspiracy, eh?

Squirrels - does he love 'em? Does he eat 'em? Is he the ring leader? Is he their betrayer? Has someone paid him off? Huh? Huh? Huh?

What's up with that?:nut: :naughty: :devillook

Yankee 21
07-13-2001, 12:58 PM
Nanner, All I can tell you is that I'm the Queen of the Squirrels!:biggrin: for the rest of the "Squirrel " conspiracy, you'll have to ask James!

pmeares17
07-13-2001, 01:32 PM
i can tell you james is a very shady character he even edits posts so that they are in support of skewrls :confused: