World Cup 2006 Stuff

[PopTop]

Though I'm hardly a huge soccer fan, I am getting a tinge of excitement about the upcoming World Cup. Love to watch WC action since it's the very best of the game.

First up, a photo from the recent friendly between Poland and Lithuania. Couldn't help but think there's a Polish joke in here somewhere with one team scarf upside down and another backwards :D
http://img254.imageshack.us/img254/1807/polandfans5ma.jpgImage Shack!


And here's an article about the England side and their new teenager Theo Walcott...

FIFA World Cup.com ... 09May06 (http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com/06/en/060509/1/6q8u.html)
Theo Walcott may not have kicked a ball in anger for Arsenal but the England teenager will be writing his name into the record books in the coming weeks.
The surprise name in Sven-Goran Eriksson's provisional England squad for the FIFA World Cup™, Walcott will supplant Wayne Rooney as his country's youngest ever player if, as some expect, he makes his senior international debut against either Hungary or Jamaica in the run-up to the finals.

Walcott will be 17 years and 86 days old when England play their opening match against Paraguay, meaning he could become the second youngest player in finals history behind Northern Ireland's Norman Whiteside, who appeared at the 1982 FIFA World Cup 41 days after his 17th birthday.

And if, as England fans hope, Eriksson's men go all the way to the Final on 9 July, he could, at 17 years and 116 days, become the youngest player to appear in a FIFA World Cup Final, beating the record set by Pele in 1958, when the Brazilian was 17 years and 249 days. Not bad for a teenager not included in Arsenal's 18-man squad for the UEFA Champions League final.

Walcott, who was taking his driving theory test when the England squad was announced, has played only 23 times in senior football, appearing in second division and cup matches for his first club, Southampton, prior to joining Arsenal in January.

Like any Premiership football watcher, Eriksson has not seen Walcott play 90 minutes in the flesh – the Swede said yesterday that he had "seen a lot of him on videos" – and admitted his likely role was as a substitute. "I don't think Walcott or (Arsenal manager Arsene) Wenger think he is going to play seven games of 90 minutes in the World Cup. But sitting on the bench, if I see there is space out there, I will use his pace."

Teenage kicks
However, Walcott and Aaron Lennon - the uncapped Tottenham Hotspur winger also included by Eriksson - are not the only precocious talents preparing to pack their suitcases for the FIFA World Cup. Of the other teenagers seeking kicks in Germany, great things are expected of the 18-year-old Argentina forward Lionel Messi (who turns 19 on 24 June), while Cesc Fabregas, 19 last week and a colleague of Walcott's at Arsenal, will be looking to shine in the Spain midfield.

Elsewhere, Netherlands coach Marco van Basten's attacking options include 19-year-old Ryan Babel, England's first opponents Paraguay will take to Germany the promising 18-year-old Jose Montiel, and midfielder Joao Moutinho, 19, is hoping for the call from Portugal coach Luiz Felipe Scolari.

Finally, Mexico fans have high hopes of Andres Guardado, a 19-year-old winger who made his international debut last December only three months after his first senior appearance for his club, Atlas. A rapid elevation by any standards – at least until Walcott came along.


Ten youngest players in FIFA World history:
1 - Norman Whiteside, Northern Ireland, 1982 - 17 years and 41 days
2 - Samuel Eto'o, Cameroon, 1998 - 17 years and 99 days old
3 - Femi Opabunmi, Nigeria, 2002 - 17 years and 101 days
4 - Salomon Olembe, Cameroon, 1998 - 17 years and 185 days
5 – Pele, Brazil, 1958 - 17 years and 235 days old
6 - Bartholomew Ogbeche, Nigeria, 2002 - 17 years and 244 days
7 - Rigobert Song, Cameroon, 1994 - 17 years and 353 days
8 - Carvalho Leite, Brazil, 1930 - 18 years and 25 days old
9 - Manuel Rosas, Mexico, 1930 - 18 years and 88 days
10 - Segundo Durandal, Bolivia, 1930 - 18 years and 122 days

[BPBlueSox]

Hup Holland, Hup!

[Thedatch]

Hup Holland, Hup!

:thumbsup:

[BPBlueSox]

Here's a cool site where you can do your own forecasting for the WK:

http://fo.reca.st/wm.php?u=BPBlueSox (this one is mine ;) )

[BPBlueSox]

..and to mention what that says above about Theo Walcott...

If he even snifs much of the field for England, they're in trouble. The guy hasn't even come close to the pitch for Arsenal yet...

[Obri]

The fuss surrounding the selection of Walcott has been outrageous....everyone's hailing him the new Rooney already.:evillol

The most embarrassing aspect was Eriksson being forced to admit that he'd never even seen him play.

And Dan, about Holland....I fancy them to take their group ahead of Argentina, and go on to knock out England in the Quarter-Finals.:thumbsup:

[a_ndrew3000]

The Walcott thing is hilarious...Sven is on the way out, so he finally takes a risk.


Why pick a player who was NEVER played in the top-flight? Oh well, at least Rooney and Owen are ready to play. :hmm:

[dtomlin]

I got a free mobile phone Cup reader from the <a href="http://addictsports.com">I'm A Spammer website</a>

[AJgreene]

I've really been into soccer a lot lately. Like the OP I was never really into it much before. After seeing the movie green street hooligans I am really into it now though. That movie was so cool. Can't wait until it comes out on DVD.

[BPBlueSox]

I've really been into soccer a lot lately. Like the OP I was never really into it much before. After seeing the movie green street hooligans I am really into it now though. That movie was so cool. Can't wait until it comes out on DVD.
That's a good flick.

You should go rent Football Factory.

[AJgreene]

Haven't seen that one. I dont think most americans have heard of Green Street Hooligans yet. With the DVD coming out in the next couple of weeks it will give more people a chance to see it. It really is one of the best sports movies I have seen.

[Blue56]

Here's a cool site where you can do your own forecasting for the WK:

http://fo.reca.st/wm.php?u=BPBlueSox (this one is mine ;) )
As much as I'd love Italy to win.......i don't think they will.

[Blue56]

Germany win first game 4-2 against Costa Rica. Costa Rica's going didn't look good at all, way too many rebounds. Germany wasn't that great either, but their 4th goal was amazing.

Poland lost to Equator 2-0........my oh my.

[BPBlueSox]

Poland got a bit unlucky there hitting the post twice.

Engerland just beat Paraguay 1-0 on an own goal. They were thoroughly unconvincing. Holland plays tomorrow! :cool:

[BPBlueSox]

T & T!!!! :clap:

[rockin500]

well, it didnt take long for riots to break out. :cool:

[Blue56]

T & T!!!! :clap:
" Cause I'm T & T. I'm dynamite

T & T. and I'll win the fight

T & T. I'm a power load

T & T. watch me explode."

Ac/Dc

[a_ndrew3000]

Good matches so far....I can't wait for tomorrow to see if the USA can get a result against the Czechs. We need something out of this one considering we have Italy next. I would have rather played Ghana to start...oh well.

England, Portugal and Holland didn't look too impressive in their wins.

[BPBlueSox]

Holland was fine. We looked good going forward...Serbia is just a very tough defense to crack. They only gave up one goal in all of qualifying, to Spain. We'll be fine in that aspect...especially if Robben learns how to pass/cross the ball. :tongue: Anyways, I didn't enjoy how much space the outside backs gave them attacking, and a more proficient team may have made us pay.

The next game against Ivory Coast should be a real cracker. My gut feeling says 2-2 draw, although I'd really appreciate the three point! :)

As for the US...in the predictor game I did, I predicted a draw vs Czech and Ghana and a loss to Italy. However, I'm not feeling so confident about the US getting any points off of the Czechs right now. I think I'm gonna go for a 2-1 defeat.

[BPBlueSox]

Czech Republic 3 - 0 USA

Ouch.

Can't say I'm really that surprised, however.

[Blue56]

Italy wins, but they had an awful first half.

[bcon23]

Definitely not surprised about the U.S....the way they were talking they were a little over confident going in. Their number 5 world ranking going in was severly inflated. US will be challenged to get any points in their group.

[Liverpool FC]

Hi guys. First time posting here. Nice forum. I love all things football ( soccer for our American friends ). Some might laugh when I say this but I think france will win the WC. England are dreadful. They don't have a chance. I watched Brazil last night. That Ronaldo is over-ratted. I alwys thought so anyways and last night proved it to me beyond doubt. I think he ran about 30 yards in the whole game.

PS Thanks for having me :thumbsup:

[a_ndrew3000]

Welcome to the forum LFC...Nice to have another fan around :thumbsup:

Ronaldo is a fat, lazy bastard, but they don't even need him

I don't think France will win it...they looked pretty miserable against the swiss...Spain looked good, but they always do until the knockout phase :tongue:

The US didn't deserve to lose 3-0..The Czechs just punished us for every mistake...oh well..it just stinks to have your world cup ruined after one game...Playing Italy next, and needing a win is not a good situation.

[Spitball67]

can't believe Germany pulled out a win today, in extra time nonetheless. I thought for sure it would end up 0-0. Poland is done now.

Spain looked great today. I thought Ukraine was a better team them that. At least they (Ukraine) did the US a favor by surpassing our futility. Hopefully we will have a better showing against Italy this weekend.

[Liverpool FC]

Welcome to the forum LFC...Nice to have another fan around :thumbsup:

Thanks Andrew.

Quick question, do you guys in The states get to see much of the English Premier League?

[Liverpool FC]

can't believe Germany pulled out a win today, in extra time nonetheless. I thought for sure it would end up 0-0. Poland is done now.

Spain looked great today. I thought Ukraine was a better team them that. At least they (Ukraine) did the US a favor by surpassing our futility. Hopefully we will have a better showing against Italy this weekend.

I think Germany were very lucky. Poland looked very tired near the end. Pity. It was a gutsy performance.

As for the USA v Italy game, I can't see USA beat Italy. They're very strong in defence.

[Spitball67]

I think Germany were very lucky. Poland looked very tired near the end. Pity. It was a gutsy performance.

As for the USA v Italy game, I can't see USA beat Italy. They're very strong in defence.

Germany was very lucky. The red card against Poland certainly helped.

Regretfully, I have to agree with you on the US v Italy game.

[Spitball67]

FINAL - Ecuador 3 Costa Rica 0

which clinches a spot in the next round for Ecuador.

[Spitball67]

FINAL - England 2 Trinidad & Tobago 0

clinches a second round berth for England :clap2:

[Thedatch]

FINAL - England 2 Trinidad & Tobago 0

clinches a second round berth for England :clap2:

T&T deserved a tie in that game...they played their asses off. England only managed to score in like the 87th minute.

England is not going much farther than this if they keep playing the way they have.

[Liverpool FC]

England are a woeful team. I have an English friend and he was saying how good England were in the friendlies they played before the world cup. Well, they're bound to play better in friendlies if they play in England all the time. I can't remember the last time they played a friendly away from home :eyebrow

[Blue56]

I would have loved TNT to tie or even win against them. England hasn't shown that they're a good team as of yet, which in my opinion aren't.
The top teams in the world Cup are: Brazil, Italy, Czechs and thats about all that comes to mind. I really do hope that Italy face Brazil in the elimination match because they'll beat the brazilians (they're the only team that can).

[Blue56]

I really enjoyed watching Ecuador play, they were great. From what I saw Germany don't stand a chance against Ecuador or in the next round. The weakest group is G (Korea, France, Switzerland and Togo).

[a_ndrew3000]

Quick question, do you guys in The states get to see much of the English Premier League?

We can watch 3 or 4 matches live or on a short delay every weekend. They also show throughout the week from the previous weekend. I watched just about every LFC match this season (if I couldn't find it on tv, I used the internet)


England were very poor again....Owen hasn't been the same since he spent that season on holiday in Madrid.

Anyways, 2 England goals from 2 LFC players. Plus Xabi got one for Spain. :cool:

[Spitball67]

sorry I forgot to post this:

Sweden 1 Paraguay 0

while this win doesn't clinch the next round for Sweden, it puts them in good position only needing a draw against England to move on.

[BPBlueSox]

Damn, I was hoping that TnT could pull it off against Engerland. Stupid lucky John Terry saving it off the line!

Anyways, ten hours til Holland - Cote d'Ivore

Hup Holland Hup!

[BPBlueSox]

I really enjoyed watching Ecuador play, they were great. From what I saw Germany don't stand a chance against Ecuador or in the next round. The weakest group is G (Korea, France, Switzerland and Togo).
Ecuador looked very good. They're gonna end up with either England or Sweden...and honestly, they could probably beat either of them.

[Thedatch]

Anyways, ten hours til Holland - Cote d'Ivore

Hup Holland Hup!

i'll be following it online at work!

:woohoo

[Spitball67]

FINAL Argentina 6 - Serbia-Montenegro 0

[Liverpool FC]

I was watching it. Argentina were awesome. I can't ever remember watching a more complete team in a World Cup game. I take back what I said earlier. France won't win it. I think we may very well have seen the 2006 World Cup winners score 6 today.

[Liverpool FC]

We can watch 3 or 4 matches live or on a short delay every weekend. They also show throughout the week from the previous weekend. I watched just about every LFC match this season (if I couldn't find it on tv, I used the internet)
:cool:

Nice to know The Pool have fans in The States :love2:

[Thedatch]

2-0 Holland now in the 35th minute...some nice goals by Van Persie, and Van Nistelrooij.A Also, the goalie Edwin Van der Sar has now played 1000 minutes of meaningful soccer without giving up a goal...that's crazy!

when I was still living in Holland I got to meet him, and got his autograph :thumbsup:

[Thedatch]

and Holland wins 2-1. Cote D'ivoir played a great game, and had many more chances than the dutch, but they couldn't capitalize. A lot of people may say they should have won, but you have to take advantage of the chances you get, and they couldn't do that.

So Argentina and Holland move on to the next round.

[Blue56]

Angola's keeper RICARDO is frekin awesome!!!! What team does he play with during the year?

[Blue56]

Tomorrow should be an awesome day!
Portugal vs Iran (POR)
Czech vs Ghana (CZC)
Italy vs USA (ITL)

[BPBlueSox]

Angola's keeper RICARDO is frekin awesome!!!! What team does he play with during the year?

http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com/06/en/w/player/162685_JOAO_RICARDO.html

None at the moment!

[Thedatch]

well im sure someone will find a place for him if he keeps playing like this!

[Baseball Guru]

Anyone watching the USA/Italy game?

What a bullshit call at the end of the 1st when Mastroeni was given a red card... What a bunch of crap!:Pissed:

[Blue56]

Anyone watching the USA/Italy game?

What a bullshit call at the end of the 1st when Mastroeni was given a red card... What a bunch of crap!:Pissed:
He plunged right at Pirlo and striked him on the ankle. Even though his intentions were for the ball he missed, which (to the ref) looked like intent to injure. Italy didn't play good AT ALL. They were lousy, LOUSY! They were lucky to come out with a tie. Although they played lousy generally they took over in the last 20 minutes or so, too bad Keller made some great saves. Stupid DE ROSSI for elbowing the US player, thats just stupid. Gillardinio's goal was superb. USA got to work on the attack and defence!

[Blue56]

How did GHANA beat the Czechs?
Standings:
ITALY +2 4pts
CZECH +1 3Pts
GHANA +0 3Pts
USA -4 1Pts

Next week will be tight and crucial for all teams. Ghana vs USA and Czechs vs Italy. Italy must win to qualify. If Italy/Czech ties and Ghana win, the Czechs are out. USA can still make it by winning, thats if Italy wins.

[a_ndrew3000]

Officials from South America shout NOT be at the World Cup.

The only exception is Argentina...They seem to do a good job. The rest are corrupt/card crazy.

We were the better team 11v11...I actually feel kinda robbed at not beating Italy. Normally, I would be happy to get a draw, but we outplayed them.

[Blue56]

I don't know if Italy always starts out like that but they haven't played the way they should be playing. Right now they should have won both games, no disrespects to either team, but Italy is way to powerfull, yet they failed to show it.

[rockin500]

who cares? the rules for soccer are so damned asinine that I'd rather gargle glass while watching hockey before caring about this damned sport.

[Thedatch]

who cares? the rules for soccer are so damned asinine that I'd rather gargle glass while watching hockey before caring about this damned sport.


I feel the same about hockey :)

what I love about soccer is that regardless of the score it's still exciting! be it 0-0, 1-0, or 10-0, there's always stuff going on, always a chance to score. Unlike baseball which has so many dead moments and can be boring as hell.

[PHXsuns13]

USA ties with ITALIA! 1-1
....Italy's goal was scored by Gilardino and the USA's goal by Zaccardo!....

[BPBlueSox]

who cares? the rules for soccer are so damned asinine that I'd rather gargle glass while watching hockey before caring about this damned sport.

This is idiotic, asinine, and immature all at the same time. Way to go. :nono1:

[BPBlueSox]

Anyone watching the USA/Italy game?

What a bullshit call at the end of the 1st when Mastroeni was given a red card... What a bunch of crap!:Pissed:
See, here's the thing about that. Most of the time, that's probably gonna be yellow instead of red. However, refs are always looking for an opportunity to even it up after they send someone off from the other team. Stupid, I know. Anyways, Mastroeni has to know better than that to make a stupid tackle like that. If he's making that tackle before a goal is imminent, fine. However, they were out around the middle of the pitch when that happened. An absolutely unecessary tackle. It's really too bad. The USA was in great shape at that point, a man up, and controlling the run of play. But still, a draw against Italy after going down to 9 men is an amazing result. They could still make it to the second round which would be unbelievable coming out of this group.

[rockin500]

This is idiotic, asinine, and immature all at the same time. Way to go. :nono1:
yawn.

[rockin500]

I feel the same about hockey :)


eh, so do i. but there has to be a good reason why neither one of those sports are big in america.

[BPBlueSox]

yawn.
Isn't there a no trolling policy on this site?

And as a supermod, too...impressive.

[Blue56]

But still, a draw against Italy after going down to 9 men is an amazing result. They could still make it to the second round which would be unbelievable coming out of this group.

Yeah, thanks to Keller they kept it 1-1 at the end.

[BPBlueSox]

Yeah, thanks to Keller they kept it 1-1 at the end.
Yeah, that one save he made to his right, world class.

First game today wasn't that great. Croatia had a thousand chances and blew all of 'em. Time for the Brazilians to put on a show against the Aussies.

[rockin500]

Isn't there a no trolling policy on this site?

And as a supermod, too...impressive.
if you had such a problem with the post, you should have PM'd me, not respond like that. :angry:

[Baseball Guru]

But still, a draw against Italy after going down to 9 men is an amazing result. They could still make it to the second round which would be unbelievable coming out of this group.


You are right on with that comment! After we went down to 9 I was just praying for a tie although we almost got a goal shorthanded which would have been incredible!!

[Baseball Guru]

I feel the same about hockey :)

what I love about soccer is that regardless of the score it's still exciting! be it 0-0, 1-0, or 10-0, there's always stuff going on, always a chance to score..


Isn't it the same way in hockey?:notme:

I think baseball is exciting in its own way as well.. Any game can turn on 1 single pitch...

[Liverpool FC]

who cares? the rules for soccer are so damned asinine that I'd rather gargle glass while watching hockey before caring about this damned sport.
Then why read this thread? It does say WORLD CUP .... :evillol

[Thedatch]

Isn't it the same way in hockey?:notme:

I think baseball is exciting in its own way as well.. Any game can turn on 1 single pitch...

I never got into Hockey...I hate the stupid fights they always get into...and I thought a lot of the rules were really weird.

[a_ndrew3000]

who cares? the rules for soccer are so damned asinine that I'd rather gargle glass while watching hockey before caring about this damned sport.

Actually, it's pretty simple....get the ball into the net without using your hands.... Oh, by the way, 95% of the planet thinks that baseball is retarded. :doublefin



Anyways, did anyone catch the France match? Looks like they are choking again this year...

[Thedatch]

Actually, it's pretty simple....get the ball into the net without using your hands.... Oh, by the way, 95% of the planet thinks that baseball is retarded. :doublefin



Anyways, did anyone catch the France match? Looks like they are choking again this year...

yeah...i don't quite understand how soccer rules are asanine but...to each his/her own I guess. Soccer is picking up steam in the US too, and it wont be too long before it becomes a lot more popular I think.

[Baseball Guru]

yeah...i don't quite understand how soccer rules are asanine but...to each his/her own I guess. Soccer is picking up steam in the US too, and it wont be too long before it becomes a lot more popular I think.

I'm not a HUGE fan of soccer but I used to play when I was a kid and will always watch the USA during WC action.. (I think it is A LOT more fun to play as opposed to watching it)
I think maybe what Ray meant is that some of the fouls are kinda petty.. It seems, at least in a few of the games I have watched, that they are so quick to blow the whistle.. Is this the norm or are they more strict during WC play? I think it really slows the game down a lot...

[Royce]

I usually don't like soccer. But for some reason I'm really into the World Cup this year. I've been watching pretty much every game when I have the chance. I also bought FIFA World Cup 2006 for Xbox 360; awesome game.

[PissedPrincess]

Go Ecuador. :smokin:

[Baseball Guru]

Go Ecuador. :smokin:

lol:laff:

[Liverpool FC]

It seems, at least in a few of the games I have watched, that they are so quick to blow the whistle.. Is this the norm or are they more strict during WC play? I think it really slows the game down a lot...

It's down to FIFA. They know they're on just about every TV on the planet during the WC and they suggest (in other words warn) the refs to book any "intended and/or malicious" fouls to keep their image "clean". Typical FIFA really. They want the best WC ever and they kill the pace of evey game by telling the rafs to book players for petty challenges :hmm:

[a_ndrew3000]

I think maybe what Ray meant is that some of the fouls are kinda petty.. It seems, at least in a few of the games I have watched, that they are so quick to blow the whistle..

This is something that I just don't understand. Americans always complain about the amount of fouls in soccer...Or "it's too slow"....Yet they watch basketball, a sport where you can barely touch each other. Or they are NFL fans, a sport where a flag is thrown every 2 plays, and the average play lasts only 4 seconds. Don't forget Commercials Commercials Commercials Commercials Commercials.

Yet soccer is "too slow".

It boggles my mind. :no:

[Blue56]

Just wondering, who's the Italian ref(s) in the World CUp?

[Royce]

Go Ecuador. :smokin:


My Germans took it to them today. :D

[Royce]

Just wondering, who's the Italian ref(s) in the World CUp?


Roberto Rosetti (Ref), Alessandro Stagnoli (Assistant Ref), and Cristiano Copelli (Assistant Ref).

http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com/06/en/w/ref/index.html

[PissedPrincess]

My Germans took it to them today. :D

Figures. Damn Yank fan supporting the Nazi's. :hmm:

:D

Eh, it was an exhibition game for us. Christ, 5 of our starters were out. We chose to relax. :smokin:

[Royce]

Figures. Damn Yank fan supporting the Nazi's. :hmm:

:D

Eh, it was an exhibition game for us. Christ, 5 of our starters were out. We chose to relax. :smokin:

Haha I'm 25% German, Polish, Sweedish, and Lithuanian. Only Lithuania isn't in the WC :(.

[PissedPrincess]

I'm German, Polish and Greek.:)

I don't know a damn thing about soccer, but my co-worker who is from Ecuador is making me root for them. :D

[PopTop]

The company I work for has its main office in Costa Rica, with Brazilians and Mexicans joining the many Ticas who work for us. But I'm pulling for England just because I like their pubs :smokin:

[PissedPrincess]

The company I work for has its main office in Costa Rica, with Brazilians and Mexicans joining the many Ticas who work for us. But I'm pulling for England just because I like their pubs :smokin:

And I'm rooting for Ecuador because my co-worker always goes home for Xmas and brings me back cool gifts like Ecuadorian coffee, suntan oil, little good luck statues, etc.....

Bring PP cool gifts from your country=I root for your team in the World Cup.

:smokin:

[Blue56]

England vs Ecuador
Germany vs Sweden

[Royce]

Go Ecuador. I hate Beckham.

[Blue56]

Go Ecuador. I hate Beckham.
Agreed on Beckham, he's been pure garbage since he left Man. U.

[BPBlueSox]

Agreed on Beckham, he's been pure garbage since he left Man. U.
Actually, I've had quite a few people tell me that he was one of Real Madrid's best players this past season, for what that's worth.

[Thedatch]

holland vs. argentina in 14 hours...I'm excited :banana:

[PissedPrincess]

Agreed on Beckham, he's been pure garbage since he left Man. U.

Agreed again. I despise Beckham.

[Royce]

Actually, I've had quite a few people tell me that he was one of Real Madrid's best players this past season, for what that's worth.


From what I've seen of him this World Cup he's been pretty good. He's had really nice crosses...very accurate. But I just don't like the guy.

[BPBlueSox]

holland vs. argentina in 14 hours...I'm excited :banana:

Oh yeah, heading to the pub shortly! :)

Too bad we're resting some of the better players and so are the Argies. Should still be a great game, though!

[BPBlueSox]

From what I've seen of him this World Cup he's been pretty good. He's had really nice crosses...very accurate. But I just don't like the guy.
He has been pretty decent during this WK. Anyways, I saw him a few times for RM this season...and yeah, he was pretty good. But he is still terribly overrated, and I suppose that is a reason not like him.

[Thedatch]

Holland and Argentina tied 0-0, which is exactly what I expected...both teams rested their stars and people who had yellow cards, and both defenses are very solid, so there wasn't going to be much scoring anyway.

boring game, but not surprising.

[Liverpool FC]

Actually, I've had quite a few people tell me that he was one of Real Madrid's best players this past season, for what that's worth.
Just goes to show how bad the reast of the Real team played ....

[Blue56]

Portugal vs Netherlands
Mexico vs Argentina

Nice games

[a_ndrew3000]

I could see the Portugal v Netherlands going to penalties...I'll pick Holland for the win.

I hope that Argentina thrash Mexico. 5-0

[Thedatch]

I could see the Portugal v Netherlands going to penalties...I'll pick Holland for the win.

I hope that Argentina thrash Mexico. 5-0

in penalties? haha...Holland has never won a game in penalties in its history...:tongue:

[BPBlueSox]

in penalties? haha...Holland has never won a game in penalties in its history...:tongue:

hahaha, that is pretty much the case. However, during the last Euro Cup in 2004, we did beat Sweden on penalties. Amazing, huh? :tongue:

[Thedatch]

hahaha, that is pretty much the case. However, during the last Euro Cup in 2004, we did beat Sweden on penalties. Amazing, huh? :tongue:

are you serious?! that is crazy...

I just remember the 98 WK when we went to penalty kicks with Brazil...We would have won that cup too, had we won that game...I'm sure.

[PHXsuns13]

Ghana upsets the United States, 2-1. The score should have at least been tied 1 to 1, but there was a penalty against the United States, which the replay showed differently, but too late to do anything about that now.

[PHXsuns13]

Ghana upsets the United States, 2-1. The score should have at least been tied 1 to 1, but there was a penalty against the United States, which the replay showed differently, but too late to do anything about that now.

[Thedatch]

Ghana upsets the United States, 2-1. The score should have at least been tied 1 to 1, but there was a penalty against the United States, which the replay showed differently, but too late to do anything about that now.

It wasn't an upset...

[Blue56]

Italy vs Australia
Brazil vs Ghana

[BPBlueSox]

It wasn't an upset...
I agree. Not an upset.

[Blue56]

I still can't figure it out how USA are ranked 5th in the world by FIFA, were they drunk when they did that or something. No offence, but the USA soccer team is garbage.

[Thedatch]

I still can't figure it out how USA are ranked 5th in the world by FIFA, were they drunk when they did that or something. No offence, but the USA soccer team is garbage.

well, they aren't that bad...the FIFA rankings are a joke, for sure...czech republic number 2?! please. they didnt even make it through the first round.

[Blue56]

well, they aren't that bad...the FIFA rankings are a joke, for sure...czech republic number 2?! please. they didnt even make it through the first round.
I have no problem seeing the czechs as #2 because they are infact a good soccer team (although they didn't show it this year), but USA 5th?? Give me a break. When teams like Italy, Argentina, Portugal, Spain, etc are ranked AFTER USA, there's something wrong.

[Thedatch]

I have no problem seeing the czechs as #2 because they are infact a good soccer team (although they didn't show it this year), but USA 5th?? Give me a break. When teams like Italy, Argentina, Portugal, Spain, etc are ranked AFTER USA, there's something wrong.

I'd put italy about the same as US at this point actually...they haven't shown me anything.

But I agree with you on argentina and spain. i haven't seen portugal play, but i'll take your word that they're better.

[Blue56]

Italy hasn't shown yet that they are a strong team both Offensively and deffensively, but there's no doubt that they have the best goalie in the WORLD!!!!! There's no Goalie as of yet better that Ganluigi Buffon!

[Thedatch]

Italy hasn't shown yet that they are a strong team both Offensively and deffensively, but there's no doubt that they have the best goalie in the WORLD!!!!! There's no Goalie as of yet better that Ganluigi Buffon!

umm...Van der Sar? 1000 minutes of international play without a goal!? are you kidding?

-edit- let's not argue...how about we say both are great goalies? :D

I do think italy has great potential, but they seriously gotta step it up if they want to win this thing.

[Blue56]

umm...Van der Sar? 1000 minutes of international play without a goal!? are you kidding?

-edit- let's not argue...how about we say both are great goalies? :D

I do think italy has great potential, but they seriously gotta step it up if they want to win this thing.
HEHE Datch, we ain't arguing we're just stating our opinions. But it's a fact and u can ask anyone, that Buffon is the best goalie out there,Period!

[Thedatch]

HEHE Datch, we ain't arguing we're just stating our opinions. But it's a fact and u can ask anyone, that Buffon is the best goalie out there,Period!

buffon :wedgie: vandersar

:tongue: :boxing: :banana:

we'll have to see when italy plays holland...:D

[BPBlueSox]

The FIFA rankings are a total joke. They use some cock-a-many equation that rates games way too high that shouldn't be...and ones that are worth a lot too low. A better one is the ELO rankings. They had the USA around 18th or something. That sounds a bit better to me.

And as for Italia vs Nederland? We can only hope to be so lucky as to see that matchup. :D We got a tough one with the Portugese first, though!

[Blue56]

According to this "ELO Ranking;"

1. Brazil
2. Netherlands
3. Spain
4. England
5. Argentina
6. Portugal
7. Italy
8. France
9. Germany
10. Czech Republic
11. Denmark
12. Mexico


looks much better

[BPBlueSox]

First Round of 16 Matches were this evening:

Germany 2, Sweden 0
Argentina 2, Mexico 1 (ET)

Tomorrow is Ingerland v Ecuador (upset brewing??) and my favourite match in the knockout: Porutgal v Nederland!! :)

[Thedatch]

First Round of 16 Matches were this evening:

Germany 2, Sweden 0
Argentina 2, Mexico 1 (ET)

Tomorrow is Ingerland v Ecuador (upset brewing??) and my favourite match in the knockout: Porutgal v Nederland!! :)

what do you think dan? portugal v. nederland...? who's got the edge?

[Blue56]

Nice games tomorrow, Portugal vs Netherlands and England vs Ecuador. I predict England and Portugal (I'm sticking with Portugal, as the underdog)

[BPBlueSox]

what do you think dan? portugal v. nederland...? who's got the edge?

Honestly, I think this is a 50/50 match. I'm worried about Portugal overrunning our midfield...which has been pretty lousy of late. Also, van Nistelrooij may not start with Dirk Kuijt playing in his place. I have a feeling this match is going to end up 2-1...just not so sure who will be the victor!

[Blue56]

Game' about to begin in 10 minutes here :D :D :D
Did anyone hear what happened in Germany? England fans attacked Germans after Germany's 2-0 win, that's disgusting.

[Blue56]

England won 1-0, no surprise
Beckham scored at 59th minute

[Blue56]

Germany vs Argentina
England vs Portugal
Italy vs Ukraine
Brazil vs Spain


Italy vs Argentina
Portugal vs Brazil

Italy over Brazil

[Blue56]

Portugal scored 1-0 by Maniche in the 22nd minute.

[Blue56]

Portugal still leading despite being one player short (Costinha red card). + way to many cards givin' out

[Blue56]

Wow...Deco got 2 yellows (red), Costinha got 2 yellows (red), Boulahrouz got 2 yellows (red).
15 Cards given out in total, 9 to Portugal.

[Thedatch]

that is by far the WORST soccer game I have ever seen!!! the dutch team played like SHIT! that Kuyt guy can kiss my ass, he sucked! Van Nistelroy should have been in that game from the beginning, and the referee was just terrible.

unbelievable

[Blue56]

Another upset?
Portugal win 1-0 and face England sometime this week.

[Blue56]

that is by far the WORST soccer game I have ever seen!!! the dutch team played like SHIT! that Kuyt guy can kiss my ass, he sucked! Van Nistelroy should have been in that game from the beginning, and the referee was just terrible.

unbelievable
So, was the Netherlands goalie any good?
BUFFON

[Thedatch]

So, was the Netherlands goalie any good?
BUFFON

um, yeah he was actually. if it weren't for him it would have been 4-0...:)

[Blue56]

um, yeah he was actually. if it weren't for him it would have been 4-0...:)
By any chance did u watch the Italy vs Czech game?

[Thedatch]

By any chance did u watch the Italy vs Czech game?

nope, I was at work at the time.

[Blue56]

nope, I was at work at the time.
Shucks, u missed an awesome game and a win thx to Gigi Buffon, seriously.

[Thedatch]

Shucks, u missed an awesome game and a win thx to Gigi Buffon, seriously.

yeah I heard it was a good game. I'm sure I'll catch an Italy game at some point this tournament :tongue:

[Blue56]

yeah I heard it was a good game. I'm sure I'll catch an Italy game at some point this tournament :tongue:
Be sure not the miss it :D They play tomorrow against Australia

[BPBlueSox]

that is by far the WORST soccer game I have ever seen!!! the dutch team played like SHIT! that Kuyt guy can kiss my ass, he sucked! Van Nistelroy should have been in that game from the beginning, and the referee was just terrible.

unbelievable

See: http://www.bigsoccer.com/forum/showthread.php?t=375200

[Blue56]

Didn't this happen to Poland, that they didn't make their top goal scorer play? This remeinded me of Italy in the last World Cup and so on, when they would have a lead and instead of pressing and playing to win, they would play to defend giving the opponent ample of oppertunities to tie the game. This ugly strategy by the italian coach kept backfiring. It got me on my nerves, but now they play differently, but still haven't proven that they're "THE" team to beat.

[a_ndrew3000]

Another example of a game ruined by a bad ref....Most of these yellows should NOT be given. This game was full of diving and cheating and whining....

Kuyt was bad. I really hope that Liverpool have lost interest in this guy because he doesn't look to be worth 10 mil.

[Blue56]

With Deco missing next game and probably Christiano Ronaldo missing it too, due to injury, it's quite hard imagining them beating England.

[a_ndrew3000]

Deco ----> Tiago
Cronaldo---> Simao



Not exactly terrible replacements.

[Thedatch]

See: http://www.bigsoccer.com/forum/showthread.php?t=375200

yeah, you hit the nail on the head with that post...incredible. you know what else? I never saw him show any emotion whatsoever! he just stood there looking stoic as usual. He needed to be out there yelling his lungs out, because his team was playing like shit, and he knew it!!!

oh and blue...i cant watch tomorrow, I work every weekday...:(

[Blue56]

Italy vs Australia

Australia really surprised me, they dominated the entire game, playing with a men more. The red card given to Italy's defenceman was questionable. It shouldn't have been a red card, a yellow I would be able to live with but red??? Anyways Australia were all over Italy, but if it wasn't Italy's defence it was Buffon stopping them. The most disappointing thing that happened for Australia was in the 95th minute, when Grosso deeked one player and another, but while the Australian defenceman was on the floor (he slided to early) he lifted his elbow, preventing Grosso from going through. Grosso was tripped and Francesco Totti was taking the penalty shot. This was at he 95th minute, so if Totti was to score it was over. Basically Totti scored, ending the game. But all in all Australia deserved to win. Sometimes when teams play better than the other they lose. Italy wasn't there at all, Hopefully they learn from this and play the way they're expected to. Nesta should be back by Friday, hopefully. Canavaro + Buffon were lifesavers.

Quick Notes:
Australia's goalie made some nice saves but a very LUCKY save on Toni as he dived opposite of where the ball was heading, but fortunetly to him the ball hit his foot.....very lucky. Gigi Buffon made quite a few life saving saves, denying them from the corner kick and from a couple of feet.
BTW Datch, the commentary on TSN said "This is why Buffon is the best Goalie in the world."

[Blue56]

WOW, thats a surprise, no one's talking about todays game except for me :eek:

[Blue56]

Switzerland vs Ukraine 0-0 in the 106th minute.

[Blue56]

Ukraine win 3-0 on Penalty kicks.

So far;
Germany vs Argentina (A)
England vs Portugal (B)
Italy vs Ukraine (C)
Winner of Brazil/Ghana vs Winner of Spain/France (D)

Winner of A vs Winner of C (1)
Winner of B vs Winner of D (2)

Winner of 1 vs Winner of 2
Loser of 1 vs Loser of 2

[Blue56]

Brazil easily won today 3-0, but Ronaldihno should have recieved a card when he stepped on Ghana players foot.
Franze--Spain 1-1 48th minute.

[Blue56]

France upsets Spain with a 3-1 win!!
FRance have always played good and caused lots of problems to Brazil. hehehe

England vs Portugal (Saturday)
France vs Brazil (Saturday)
Italy vs Ukraine (Friday)
Germany vs Argentina (Friday)

[I Are Baboon]

Today's World Cup highlights brought to you by I Are Baboon:

http://users.on.net/~billt/italianjob.gif

[Royce]

Lmao!

[Blue56]

Today's World Cup highlights brought to you by I Are Baboon:

http://users.on.net/~billt/italianjob.gif
That's insulting. They don't dive like other teams do, and you'd be surprised how a small shot to the leg can hurt. I'll admit sometimes they exagerate a bit but who doesn't? Every team dives on purpose or fakes an injury. Look at Thiery Henry against Spain, when he went down, which the free kcik led to France's second goal. What was that? He didn't get hit in the face.

[Blue56]

By the way, it's good to FINALLY see someone, other than me posting in this thread. Some conversation about this week's game(s)?

[Thedatch]

That's insulting. They don't dive like other teams do, and you'd be surprised how a small shot to the leg can hurt. I'll admit sometimes they exagerate a bit but who doesn't? Every team dives on purpose or fakes an injury. Look at Thiery Henry against Spain, when he went down, which the free kcik led to France's second goal. What was that? He didn't get hit in the face.

it's not just Italy doing the diving, although I was really pissed off at that "penalty kick" that was awarded in the late late minutes of the aussie-italy game.

fact is, every team is doing it, and it's disgusting. It completely ruins the game for me. They're all acting like a bunch of freaking pussies, and Blue, they're wearing shin guards. You can hardly feel a thing. instead of just winning because they're the better team, teams now take to falling to the ground everytime they get touched (even if they don't.)

This WK is especially bad.

[Royce]

Who wins tomorrow...Germany or Argentina...?

I got Germany. 1. Because I'm rooting for them and 2. because I think them being the host nation helps a lot. Otherwise I think this game is evenly matched. After all, Germany does have Ballak, Klose, and Polinsky. 3 good players.

[Thedatch]

Who wins tomorrow...Germany or Argentina...?

I got Germany. 1. Because I'm rooting for them and 2. because I think them being the host nation helps a lot. Otherwise I think this game is evenly matched. After all, Germany does have Ballak, Klose, and Polinsky. 3 good players.

I like seeing the host nations win...and I'm not such a fan of argentina, so I'll root for Germany, although i agree, the game is pretty evenly matched.

[Blue56]

it's not just Italy doing the diving, although I was really pissed off at that "penalty kick" that was awarded in the late late minutes of the aussie-italy game.

fact is, every team is doing it, and it's disgusting. It completely ruins the game for me. They're all acting like a bunch of freaking pussies, and Blue, they're wearing shin guards. You can hardly feel a thing. instead of just winning because they're the better team, teams now take to falling to the ground everytime they get touched (even if they don't.)

This WK is especially bad.
The penalty shot awarded to Italy was indeed a penalty shot because of the way the aussie defenceman lefted his arm instead of keeping low. Yes, the ref maybe should have stopped the game and let it continue in extra time, but then if Australia would score and win (Which they played better, but with an extra man) how would the Italians react and feel, when the penalty shot should have been awarded.

The refs at the world cup have been totally garbage but they've always have been, atleast from what I remember. And Datch, about the shinguard, they also get hit right on the side where it doesn't protect. I've played soccer in the passed and I got that alot. Refs should be more strict on dives (red cards automatic).

[Blue56]

I like seeing the host nations win...and I'm not such a fan of argentina, so I'll root for Germany, although i agree, the game is pretty evenly matched.
Argentina's going to win, and will most likely face Italy (if Italy plays the way they're expected to).

[Thedatch]

The penalty shot awarded to Italy was indeed a penalty shot because of the way the aussie defenceman lefted his arm instead of keeping low. Yes, the ref maybe should have stopped the game and let it continue in extra time, but then if Australia would score and win (Which they played better, but with an extra man) how would the Italians react and feel, when the penalty shot should have been awarded.

The refs at the world cup have been totally garbage but they've always have been, atleast from what I remember. And Datch, about the shinguard, they also get hit right on the side where it doesn't protect. I've played soccer in the passed and I got that alot. Refs should be more strict on dives (red cards automatic).

giving red cards on dives will ruin the game even more! there will be 6 or 7 red cards a game, and they'll end up with 5 people on each side. Maybe start fining them a couple million dollars everytime they dive, that should do it.

as for the shinguards...I've played soccer too, and you know what? pain is a part of the game. I can't believe you're defending people who fall to the ground as if their legs have just been shot off, then get up right away and limp a little 5 seconds later after they realize that nobody freaking cares.

they're babies, and they need to grow the hell up.

and I guess we differ in opinion about the penalty kick, which makes sense since you're a fan, and I'm not.

[Royce]

Argentina's going to win, and will most likely face Italy (if Italy plays the way they're expected to).


Why are you so sure? ;)

But I agree with you on Italy...the USA are the only team to score on Italia, and it was an OG. (if i heard that right on ESPN)

[Blue56]

Why are you so sure? ;)

But I agree with you on Italy...the USA are the only team to score on Italia, and it was an OG. (if i heard that right on ESPN)
What can I say, I have "this" feeling. And yes the goal counted for USA was an own goal by the Italians.

[Royce]

I knew it was an OG but was that the only goal the Italians let up in the Cup?

[Blue56]

I knew it was an OG but was that the only goal the Italians let up in the Cup?
yup

[BPBlueSox]

so I'll root for Germany,

Datch, you know this is not allowed!

[Thedatch]

Datch, you know this is not allowed!

this is very difficult for me, but I truly do not like Argentina. With Maradona's "hand of God", and that little bastard Ariel Ortega in 1998...old wounds die hard I guess.

I wish neither team could win, but i'm still going with Germany in this one, as much as it pains me.

[Blue56]

Out of these four matche's this week, which should be the most intriging and interesting to watch?
I'd say Germany vs Argentina.

[BPBlueSox]

this is very difficult for me, but I truly do not like Argentina. With Maradona's "hand of God", and that little bastard Ariel Ortega in 1998...old wounds die hard I guess.

I wish neither team could win, but i'm still going with Germany in this one, as much as it pains me.

Honestly, I very much feel the same way as you do...but would never admit it to anyone! :tongue:

[BPBlueSox]

I'd say Germany vs Argentina.

It really should be. The Argies have a lot of individual attacking talent...and the Germans are playing like Dutch-wannabies. (Playing much better than us at our own game :tongue: ) Anyways, it should be an entertaining match. Speaking of, gotta shower so I can get down to the pub!

[Thedatch]

Honestly, I very much feel the same way as you do...but would never admit it to anyone! :tongue:

haha, I guess i've been too Americanized...:D

[I Are Baboon]

That's insulting. They don't dive like other teams do, and you'd be surprised how a small shot to the leg can hurt.

Ehhh...my little cartoon was not directed at any one team in particular. JHFC, get a sense of humor, Blue. :D As a sports junkie who is enjoying the World Cup but doesn't really follow the sport, I see players flopping and diving all over the place, and it's not any one team in particular.

I want to see England win. The rioting in England will be HISTORIC if they win the Cup! :D

[Royce]

Germany wins in PK's...great match, I thought the Germans were done after that corner went in for Argentina.

[PissedPrincess]

Germany wins in PK's...great match, I thought the Germans were done after that corner went in for Argentina.

:Puter:

Go Portugal. :blondsmok

[Royce]

Portugal is screwed with all the yellows they've had this tourney.

[BPBlueSox]

Portugal is screwed with all the yellows they've had this tourney.
They've got some depth to make up for it...especially in the midfield. It should be a battle between them and Ingerland.

Brazil v France should be a good one as well. France might just give them enough trouble...

[Thedatch]

brazil lost! england lost!!! freaking insane!!!!!!

[Blue56]

Je suis telement content que les francais ont batus les Bresiliens. France was and always will be Brazil's black sheep. Portugal should have put it away when Beckham went out and when Rooney got the red card, lucky for them Ricardo made 3 saves in the shootouts.

[Blue56]

Tuesday's game:
Germany vs Italy (Italy should win)

Wednesday's game:
Portugal vs France

I'm rooting for an Italy-Portugal Final

[uj4l]

Wow big games today, first off with the shootout with Portugal/England. Sucks Beckham got an injury, and the 2nd game with France and Brazil. France played way better, Brazil seemed they were gonna actually do something in the late minutes of the game. Henry terrific goal. France only to beat Brazil in how many or so games? Im still going for Italy, since they are neighbors with Greece. We know only one thing. Europe is the champs!

[BPBlueSox]

Ack, and Italy v Portugal final would be the most disgusting final. I'd explain why but I don't particularly want to offend Blue!

I suppose of the final four remaining I would prefer for France to win.

(And I think we're gonna end up with a Germany - France final)

[Royce]

I agree, Germany vs. France

[metsfan001]

I don't think Italy will win; if the refs would give yellow cards for diving the Azzurri would have 2 players eligible for this game.

[a_ndrew3000]

Who does everyone like in the final?

I don't care who wins at all.... I just hope it is entertaining.

[Royce]

I'm rooting for France. I think they'll win too.

[Blue56]

ITALY! ITALY!
They should and will win. I doubt France will be able to beat our defence and the worlds best goalie! Barthez was good and bad during the France-Portugal game. Near the end when he threw the ball upwards, he was VERY lucky Figo missed the net. Did anyone notice that France played like Italy did? take the lead and play defence for the rest of the game.

[Royce]

That's how everyone tries to play soccer.

[Blue56]

That's how everyone tries to play soccer.
Have you ever seen Italy play a couple of years back, when they scored and played defence which sometimes backfired. It's the way they played, they brought their fowards back to help the defence, meaning no attack. Trust me, no team played like Italy did defensively.

[BPBlueSox]

That's how everyone tries to play soccer.

Wrong.

[BPBlueSox]

Have you ever seen Italy play a couple of years back, when they scored and played defence which sometimes backfired. It's the way they played, they brought their fowards back to help the defence, meaning no attack. Trust me, no team played like Italy did defensively.
catenaccio

[Royce]

Wrong.

I guess I didn't read what he said in depth. I took it as general as possible and I skipped the last sentence. I'll read the whole thing next time. :D

[Thedatch]

I really hope France wins. not only because of my dislike for Italy, but because I want Zidane to go out with a win.

[Blue56]

Germany finished 3rd with a 3-1 win over Portugal today

[Blue56]

catenaccio
huh?

[Royce]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catenaccio

Catenaccio describes a tactical system in football with an emphasis on defence and tactical fouls.

[Thedatch]

well...italy won in PKs...the worst way to win a final game.

Frankly, I don't think they deserve it, but they won every game somehow, so you gotta give them credit for that.

and zidane...what the hell?

[Royce]

and zidane...what the hell?

lol...wtf was that...

[a_ndrew3000]

That's how everyone tries to play soccer.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Total_football

Check that out...





Anywho, Zidane... :lmao: :lmao: :lmao: :lmao: :lmao: What a prick.

[Thedatch]

hell yeah...the dutch used to embody totaal voetbal. Dunno about now though, with all the young guys.

[a_ndrew3000]

http://content.ytmnd.com/content/1/2/5/125e067ac32841a86fc20e71015e584b.gif

[Thedatch]

hahahahahaha, nice, where'd you find that?

[a_ndrew3000]

I got it off another forum...

I couldn't stop laughing at it.

I like this one too.
http://img250.imageshack.us/img250/7552/zidane20lk.gif

[Blue56]

What ZIdane did was terrible, it destroyed his reputation and who he is. I still love him as a soccer player and consider him one the best players in soccer, but what he did was just wrong. I understand that players can get on your nerves by insulting you but as a professional you got to keep your cool and and striking your anger towards them by scoring. If he would have spit in Matterazi's face or puched him, it wouldn't be that bad, but by head butting him like a rhino just destroyed his career. People will not look at him the same.

[Blue56]

http://www.stoo.cc/images/SAimages/6561zidane.gif

[Thedatch]

What ZIdane did was terrible, it destroyed his reputation and who he is. I still love him as a soccer player and consider him one the best players in soccer, but what he did was just wrong. I understand that players can get on your nerves by insulting you but as a professional you got to keep your cool and and striking your anger towards them by scoring. If he would have spit in Matterazi's face or puched him, it wouldn't be that bad, but by head butting him like a rhino just destroyed his career. People will not look at him the same.

punching him, or spitting at him in the face is better than headbutting a guy?! are you joking? they're all just as bad.

although if it's true he called zidane a terrorist, like one french newspaper said, frankly, I think he deserved it.

[Blue56]

I'm not saying spitting and punching or shoving isn't bad it just isn't that bad compared to what he actually did. If he would have spit in Matterazi's face, people wouldn't be critizing Zidane all that much and his career wouldn't have been destroyed. Take a look at Totti. He spit in the guys face a while back, yes it was bad, but then again we don't know what the other player said to him. All in all I'm against all this and I truly believe players such as these professionals should be able to calm themselves down and not pay any attention to any comments.

[Blue56]

Translated to english by a lip reader. I wish an ugly death to you and all your family, Go F*** Yourself.
Thats pretty dirty espeically considering the fact Zidane's mother is sick, you can see why he would be pissed off.

Zidane has had a history of dirty ass plays. He has headbutted someone before, and also stepped on a guy purpously, and served a ton of suspensions. this is from another forum. I don't know if thats what Materrazi really said, it's possible, but if thats what he said he deserved the head but.

[Blue56]

This just in...

PARIS (AP) - French soccer star Zinedine Zidane apologized for head-butting an Italian opponent during the World Cup final, saying Wednesday that he was provoked by insults about his mother and sister.

''I apologize, to all the children'' who watched the match Sunday, Zidane said in his first, highly-awaited comments about the act of violence that marked the end of his career.

Zidane did not specify exactly what Italian defender Marco Materazzi said that enraged him, but that it was insulting to his sister and mother.

''I would rather have taken a punch in the jaw than have heard that,'' Zidane said, stressing that Materazzi's language was ''very harsh.''

Zidane and Materazzi exchanged words after Italy broke up a French attack in extra-time. Seconds later, Zidane lowered his head and rammed Materazzi in the chest, knocking him to the ground.

Zidane was sent off, reducing France to 10 men. Italy went on to win in a penalty shootout.

The France captain said he felt no regret for his act, ''because that would mean (Materazzi) was right to say all that.''

At nearly the same moment Zidane was appearing on French TV, excerpts from an interview that Materazzi gave to Italian sports daily Gazzetta dello Sport were posted on the newspaper's website.

''I didn't say anything to him about racism, religion or politics,'' Materazzi told the Gazzetta. ''I didn't talk about his mother either. I lost my mother when I was 15 and even now I still get emotional talking about her. Naturally, I didn't know his (mother) was in the hospital, I give her my best wishes.''

''He's always been my hero, I admire him a lot.''

For days, sports fans around the world have been riveted by the question: What could Materazzi have said to set Zidane off? Media from Brazil to Britain hired lip readers to try to figure it out, then came up with different answers.

Materazzi has acknowledged he insulted Zidane, without giving specifics.

Materazzi spoke to Zidane in Italian. Zidane, who played for several years at Turin club Turin, speaks Italian.

Despite the head-butt, Zidane was awarded the Golden Ball award for best player at the World Cup - though FIFA president Sepp Blatter has suggested Zidane could be stripped of the honour.

''The winner of the award is not decided by FIFA, but by an international commission of journalists,'' Blatter said in Italian newspaper La Repubblica. ''That said, FIFA's executive committee has the right, and the duty, to intervene when faced with behaviour contrary to the ethics of the sport.''

In France, many have already pardoned Zidane, even without his explanation. A poll published Tuesday in Le Parisien newspaper showed that 61 per cent of the 802 people questioned forgave Zidane.

[Blue56]

This just in;
According to a radio host at the team990, the stories said by Zidane and hjis mother didn't conenct and make much sense. Zidane said that Materazzi insulted his mother and his sister, but Materazzi has told the media what he told Zidane.
"When I grabbed his shirt (Zidane) he told me 'if you want it I'll give it to you after the game,' to which i replied 'I rather where your wife's shirt."

Is Zidane the liar?

[Blue56]

More interesting stuff, this time on Materazzi.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6dj3-UjAGyo&search=materazzi

[Thedatch]

This just in;
According to a radio host at the team990, the stories said by Zidane and hjis mother didn't conenct and make much sense. Zidane said that Materazzi insulted his mother and his sister, but Materazzi has told the media what he told Zidane.
"When I grabbed his shirt (Zidane) he told me 'if you want it I'll give it to you after the game,' to which i replied 'I rather where your wife's shirt."

Is Zidane the liar?

who knows? who cares?

[Blue56]

You mean, you're not curious as to what has been said on the field that provoked Zidane to that limit?

[Thedatch]

You mean, you're not curious as to what has been said on the field that provoked Zidane to that limit?

not in the least. Regardless of what was said, Zidane was completely wrong in doing it, whether he called him a terrorist, his mom a dirty whore, I don't care.

[Blue56]

Overal, what did you guys think of this year's refering? Too many cards, worse than the previous world cups.....

[Thedatch]

Overal, what did you guys think of this year's refering? Too many cards, worse than the previous world cups.....

I think the semi-finals and the final games were very well officiated. Other than that, it was a complete travesty.

Mostly I blame the players for being a bunch of pussies and lying down on the field writhing in pain after every tackle.

[Blue56]

Some players do that so they (and their team) can rest for a while.

[Thedatch]

Some players do that so they (and their team) can rest for a while.

so?

[Blue56]

so?
I'm just saying that it's one of the reasons why they do so, but I'm not implicading that it's right.

[Thedatch]

I'm just saying that it's one of the reasons why they do so, but I'm not implicading that it's right.

exactly...I don't care why they do it, it ruins the game.

[Thedatch]

this just in! zidane was actually saving the italian guy's life!!!

http://regmedia.co.uk/2006/07/14/zidane_jackal.gif

:laff:

this is great: http://www.theregister.co.uk/2006/07/13/zidane_headbutt_outrage/

[Royce]

lmao!

[Blue56]

thumbsup: datch :lol: