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Misha77Piazza
04-08-2002, 03:01 PM
I hope nothing is serious with his hand.....even though the x-ray showed negative but they decide to go for second opinion just to be on safe side.



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04/07/2002 9:40 pm ET
Injured Vaughn returns to N.Y.
First baseman to have hand checked
By Kevin T. Czerwinski / MLB.com




Mo Vaughn takes a curtain call afer his first home run as a Met on Wednesday. (Mark Lennihan/AP)



ATLANTA -- Any excitement the Mets may have felt about taking two of three games from the Braves this weekend was tempered on Sunday by the news that Mo Vaughn's right hand may be hurt worse than originally believed.
The big first baseman was out of the lineup for the second consecutive day as New York dropped a 5-2 decision in 14 innings at Turner Field. Vaughn did not accompany the team to Chicago afterwards. Instead, he headed back to New York Sunday night and will be checked out by team doctors on Monday. He will, however, join the team in Chicago in time for Tuesday's contest against the Cubs.

X-rays taken of Vaughn's hand in Atlanta were negative. However, New York manager Bobby Valentine said that there was some clouding in the x-rays, most likely due to swelling in the hand. He stressed that it wasn't "anything major" but admitted Vaughn might have suffered a slight break. Vaughn didn't know if that were the case. That said, Valentine indicated that the doctors in Atlanta didn't think the injury warranted time on the disabled list.

"I'm going to get it checked out with our own doctors tomorrow," said Vaughn, who is hitting .176 [3-for-17] in four games with a homer and two RBIs. "I'll get it checked out and then go to Chicago tomorrow night. I've already played 18 innings on it so we'll see. But the swelling is down and it feels better every day."

Vaughn was hit near the fourth metacarpal, just above the wrist, by a Jimmy Anderson pitch in the first inning of Thursday's game against Pittsburgh. He stayed in that game but went hitless in his next three at-bats. He started Friday's series-opener against Atlanta and picked up a hit in five at-bats, but his swing was awkward and lacked authority.

Though he said he was able to grip the bat, Vaughn said he didn't take any batting practice on Sunday.

"The swelling is still there so it's not as good a situation as I would like it to be," Valentine said. "There's moderate concern there. I don't want it to be a six week or two month thing. A couple of days are fine; I have no problem with that. But we can't deal with months. Hopefully tomorrow will be a better day."

One of Valentine's concerns is that Vaughn will downplay the severity of the injury and attempt to play through the pain. Vaughn has a history of playing hurt and has already indicated that he's used to playing while nicked up.

"We don't need any heroes in April," Valentine said. "I like his spirit though."

Vaughn's two seasons in Anaheim were marked by injuries. He hurt his ankle on opening night in 1999 and spent some time on the disabled list. Then when he hurt his bicep in 2000 he played through the pain for much of the second half of the season and still managed to hit 36 homers and drive in 117 runs. That injury eventually required surgery and caused him to miss all of last season.

When asked if he would be honest with Valentine and come clean if his hand really did hurt, Vaughn laughed and gave a quick, "No".

"I've played with injuries before," said Vaughn, who will likely have to wear a cumbersome pad on his hand when he returns to action. He called the pad "dumb".

John Valentin played first base over the weekend in Vaughn's absence and committed two errors, the second of which contributed to Atlanta tying the score in the eighth inning on Sunday. It marked the first two starts at first base in Valentin's career.

"It's a new position for him," Vaughn said. "When you do it right, it looks easy. But he's been on the other side of the infield his whole career."

Vaughn said he was getting ready to pinch hit once the game went into extra innings.

"I had my spikes on and everything," Vaughn said. "Sitting in the dugout the whole game was horrible. It's not a comfortable place for me."

Mike Piazza is still listed as day-to-day

Making matters worse for the Mets was the fact that they were also without the services of Mike Piazza on Sunday. The nine-time All-Star suffered a contusion of his left knee in a home plate collision Saturday night with Chipper Jones. X-rays taken of the knee were negative and Piazza is listed as day-to-day.

"It's still a little sore but I'm feeling better," said Piazza, who should play on Tuesday in Chicago. "Bobby asked me if I was ready to go in there today and I told him whatever he wanted. I felt as a last resort I could have hit. Whatever he wanted me to do."

Kevin Czerwinski covers the Mets for MLB.com. This story was not subject to the approval of Major League Baseball or its clubs.

Nanner
04-08-2002, 03:07 PM
Oh, man.:angry: Well, it's the beginning of the season, and I'm with Bobby V, being real cautious with these.

Rather than injure them more when they're playing slightly hurt.

Geez. Mo and Mikey... guys... they want to be such studs.:hmm:

Misha77Piazza
04-08-2002, 06:06 PM
Just found out the report from Ed Coleman saying Mo is on DL and the Mets is recalling Timo. :ohno:

So who'll cover the first base? Mark Johnson or Super Joe? I hope either would be fine since I don't want John Valentin to do the job.

Misha77Piazza
04-08-2002, 07:57 PM
Vaughn put on 15-day disabled list

Mets’ first baseman broke hand when hit by pitch
New York Mets first baseman Mo Vaughn was hit by a pitch on his right hand during a game Thursday.


BASEBALL NOTES
NBCSPORTS.COM NEWS SERVICES

April 8 — Mets first baseman Mo Vaughn is back on the disabled list with a small break just below the pinkie of his right hand. Vaughn was hit by a pitch from Pittsburgh’s Jimmy Anderson last Thursday in the first inning. Vaughn did not think the injury was serious, stayed in the game and even played the next day in Atlanta.


BUT HE FELT pain during the weekend, sat out Saturday and Sunday, and learned of the break from an X-ray Monday.
The team put Vaughn on the DL and recalled outfielder Timo Perez from Triple-A Norfolk. Vaughn is eligible to be activated April 21, and Mets general manager Steve Phillips thinks the burly slugger will be able to play then or a few days later.
“Mo has a high pain threshold,” Phillips said. “He’s not happy about it, but he understands it’s the thing to do.”

The 34-year-old Vaughn, acquired in an offseason trade, struggled with injuries during three seasons with the Anaheim Angels. He twisted his ankle on opening day of the 1999 season and never really recovered, then missed all of 2001 with a torn tendon in his left biceps.
Phillips was worried that if Vaughn continued to play, a larger break could develop if the hand got hit again. When he returns, Vaughn probably will wear padding under his batting glove.
“When you weigh the risk and the reward, it just doesn’t make sense to take a chance of losing him for 6-to-8 weeks,” Phillips said.
With two weeks of rest, according to the general manager, “it should heal enough in that time that another impact wouldn’t cause a displacement.”
In other injury news, Phillips said Mike Piazza will probably play in Tuesday’s series opener in Chicago. Piazza bruised his left knee Saturday in Atlanta and missed Sunday’s game.
“Mike’s swelling was significantly reduced today. It’s still a little discolored,” Phillips said. “He was moving better today. If this were the NFL, he’d be listed as probable for tomorrow.”
Until Vaughn returns, John Valentin, Joe McEwing and Mark Johnson will split time at first base. Vaughn was batting .176 (3-for-17) with two RBIs and one homer, the 300th of his career.
“It’s a minor setback, and one we’re going to get through,” Phillips said. “We have some depth. We’ll miss his bat and his presence.”
Perez, who slumped badly last year, was 9-fpr-16 (.563) at Norfolk with one homer, five RBIs and three steals.

Liter22
04-08-2002, 08:01 PM
Originally posted by Misha77Piazza
Just found out the report from Ed Coleman saying Mo is on DL and the Mets is recalling Timo. :ohno:

So who'll cover the first base? Mark Johnson or Super Joe? I hope either would be fine since I don't want John Valentin to do the job.

I really hpoe they pick Mark because he has very soft hands at 1B I would also like Joe. John Valentin really sucks at first:2guns:he has no range at that position

imgreat95
04-08-2002, 08:20 PM
umm. how do you know what kind of range vlentin has at first base? He has never played a single game there during the regular seson.

Nanner
04-08-2002, 08:23 PM
Originally posted by Liter22


I really hpoe they pick Mark because he has very soft hands at 1B I would also like Joe. John Valentin really sucks at first:2guns:he has no range at that position

Well, geez. :angry: John Valentin had never played 1st base before he was put in there on Saturday.

I'd rather see Mark Johnson or Superjoe there too, but it's hardly Valentin's fault that 1st base isn't his position.:hmm: so I prefer to cut him a little slack for those two games rather than saying he "sucks".

imgreat95
04-08-2002, 08:31 PM
not only that, but it's not like y'all had a great fielding 1st baseman that you were depending on to begin with. It's not like valentin at 1st would be any worse defensively than mo.

Nanner
04-08-2002, 08:39 PM
Originally posted by imgreat95
not only that, but it's not like y'all had a great fielding 1st baseman that you were depending on to begin with. It's not like valentin at 1st would be any worse defensively than mo.

Kind of what I was thinking.

:biggrin:

imgreat95
04-08-2002, 09:13 PM
Originally posted by Nanner


Kind of what I was thinking.

:biggrin:

that's scary. I think i must go jump out my bedroom window now...

Nanner
04-08-2002, 09:22 PM
Originally posted by imgreat95


that's scary. I think i must go jump out my bedroom window now...

I know. It is scary, isn't it.

How high is your window?

:biggrin:

imgreat95
04-08-2002, 09:33 PM
about 20 feet maybe. nothing super high.

Cyberlibrarian
04-08-2002, 09:35 PM
Mo doesn't suck at first base. He's no Keith Hernandez, but he's not terrible either.

I'd rather see Mark Johnson there during Mo's absence. He's a lefty bat who knows how to play first.

imgreat95
04-08-2002, 09:46 PM
i don't think that anyone said Mo sucked at first base. The concersation was wether there would be a dropoff from mo to valentin defensively. I don't believe there would be. Mo is a below average 1st baseman defensively, and the numbers are there to support it. His footowork on and around the bag is also actually pretty bad compared to what you would want from a first baseman.

Nanner
04-08-2002, 10:12 PM
I never said Mo sucked at 1st! I wasn't saying anyone sucked! But I sort of agree with Shawn that Mo isn't really known for his defensive skills at first.... so if the Mets can get a left-handed bat who's played first before, and is good at it, (Mark Johnson), that's fine with me..... not that the Mets organization cares what I think.



.... or even listens to me.:hmm:

:biggrin:

imgreat95
04-08-2002, 10:16 PM
Originally posted by Nanner
not that the Mets organization cares what I think.


.... or even listens to me.:hmm:

:biggrin:

it probably doesn't mean much, but I listen to you.

Nanner
04-08-2002, 10:31 PM
Originally posted by imgreat95


it probably doesn't mean much, but I listen to you.

You do?!?!?:uhoh:

Cool!



Thanks, Shawn.




:biggrin:

imgreat95
04-08-2002, 10:35 PM
you're welcome. Anything i can do to keep my fans happy. :biggrin:

Baseball Guru
04-09-2002, 11:46 AM
Personally I'd rather have Mark Johnson in there vs righties and Joe in there vs lefties...I was not at all impressed with Valentin at 1st the other day....

Cyberlibrarian
04-09-2002, 12:39 PM
Originally posted by Nanner
I never said Mo sucked at 1st! I wasn't saying anyone sucked! But I sort of agree with Shawn that Mo isn't really known for his defensive skills at first.... so if the Mets can get a left-handed bat who's played first before, and is good at it, (Mark Johnson), that's fine with me..... not that the Mets organization cares what I think.



.... or even listens to me.:hmm:

:biggrin: Gotcha. And having Mark Johnson at first will definitely do something for the cuteness quotient we lost when Robin and Toddles left. ;)