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Luvofthegame
10-09-2006, 12:25 AM
Skipper likely gone after 11-year stint

BY BILL MADDEN and T.J. QUINN
NY DAILY NEWS STAFF WRITERS

DETROIT - Despite an 11-season run that will put him in the Hall of Fame, Joe Torre has probably spent his last day in a Yankee uniform after last night's stunning 8-3 loss to the Detroit Tigers.
After winning four World Series titles in his first five seasons but failing to win the Fall Classic over the past six, Torre is expected to be fired, sources said, and his replacement is expected to be former Yankee Lou Piniella.

Unless other team officials can talk The Boss out of it, or unless Torre, 66, agrees to resign in order to save face, sources said principal owner George Steinbrenner will replace the manager who was credited with returning the team to its fabled glory. Yankees General Manager Brian Cashman is expected to keep his job, as are most members of the front office. Torre may be offered another position within the organization.

Asked about possible changes after yesterday's loss, an emotional Torre said he had not thought about it.

"We felt pretty good about ourselves. But again, that's something for Cash and I and other people to talk about," he said. "But right now, it's just ..." - here he choked back tears - "it's just tough."

Sources said Steinbrenner lost his patience over the team's listless play in its division series loss to the Tigers - and Steinbrenner is not expected to wait long to make his move.

Sources told the Daily News that Piniella has been in discussions with the Chicago Cubs, San Francisco Giants and Washington Nationals, and Steinbrenner does not want the Yankees to miss a chance to sign the man considered the natural successor to Torre for years.

Piniella managed the Yankees from 1986 to 1988 but developed his reputation as one of the game's best and most emotional managers during his years with the Cincinnati Reds and Seattle Mariners.

When the Yankees first hired Torre to replace Buck Showalter, the choice of the Brooklyn native was hammered in most media outlets. Torre was considered a good announcer, a good person and a mediocre manager who could never get the Mets, Atlanta Braves or St. Louis Cardinals to the World Series.

After inheriting Showalter's Yankees, however, the former New York Giants fan took the Bombers to their first World Series in 15 years in 1996, and won the first of his two Manager of the Year awards. He has one year and $7 million left on his contract.

PopTop
10-09-2006, 11:22 AM
Again I ask: Is this the same Daily News that told us the past two years it was all but done for Clemens to be traded from Houston to the Yanks?

Oh well, I guess if you throw enough darts, one of them could stick in the bull's eye every now and again.

Dumping Torre and bringing in Piniella would be the worst mistake Steinbrenner has ever made. And considering all of the mistakes he has made over time, that's an achievement.

Durango53
10-09-2006, 12:14 PM
While I agree with you Willie this could be a shot also to get some return out of A-Rod with bring in Piniella to team them up again.....

Luvofthegame
10-09-2006, 04:44 PM
Again I ask: Is this the same Daily News that told us the past two years it was all but done for Clemens to be traded from Houston to the Yanks?

Oh well, I guess if you throw enough darts, one of them could stick in the bull's eye every now and again.

Credibility from the media......c'mon man you know better without even posing the question...lol. They are speculating and sometimes (once in a great while) they get it right....and even less likely sometimes they create a situation that did not exist to begin with. Some of these guys are accountable for what they write, others are not, the ones who are come out with a story once in a while that's right on. It all depends on how credible their sources are as well.

And Steinbrenner...good lord...his answer to everything is to spend more money :)

PopTop
10-09-2006, 08:20 PM
Credibility from the media......c'mon man you know better without even posing the question...lol.Yeah, silly me, what was I thinking.

And Steinbrenner...good lord...his answer to everything is to spend more money :)I'm thinking - - Perhaps I'm hoping that he snaps a little about how he drives a bunch of the market - - that maybe this time he won't, this time he won't be throwing more big dolla' free agents in the deal. He owes Torre a huge pile of lettuce still. And every year, Torre included, all of the players keep thinking Steinbrenner is going to bring someone else in, a new stud, to give them even more of an all-salary team.

If he''d just tell the guys he's got they can win or they can look like poop losing, maybe they'd actually come together as a team.

Eh, what was I thinking :Pimp

PopTop
10-10-2006, 02:25 PM
...the next time you read the phrase, "The New York Daily News is reporting...", use that section of your newspaper to potty train your puppy.

ESPN.com (http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=2619564)
NEW YORK -- Joe Torre will remain as manager of the New York Yankees, finally getting the word from owner George Steinbrenner after the team's surprise elimination from the playoffs last weekend.

Torre spoke with Steinbrenner on the telephone Tuesday, shortly before he walked into the interview room at Yankee Stadium and made the announcement.

"He gave me his support," Torre said. "I'm just pleased I'm able to stay on and do this."

The two also spoke on Monday.

"I talked to George yesterday for probably 15, 20 minutes, and we discussed a lot of things: the team, what we do from here and things like that," Torre said.

The Daily News had reported Sunday that Steinbrenner was ready to fire Torre after the Yankees were eliminated by the Detroit Tigers in the first round of the AL playoffs. The paper said the likely replacement would be Lou Piniella, who served two terms as Yankees manager in the 1980s. Torre didn't make any public statements Sunday or Monday as camera crews camped outside his home in suburban Westchester.

"I thought I had the cure for cancer or something," Torre said. :laff:

While the Yankees won four World Series titles in Torre's first five seasons, they haven't won any since 2000, angering the demanding Steinbrenner.

"He requires a lot. He expects a lot. We know that," Torre said. "You can't pick and choose the parts you like about working for George Steinbrenner. You have to understand the whole package."

With 1,973 regular-season wins, Torre is 10th on the career list and third among active managers behind Tony La Russa of the St. Louis Cardinals (2,297) and Bobby Cox (2,171) of the Atlanta Braves.

Torre has the longest uninterrupted term for a Yankees manager since Casey Stengel held the job for 12 years from 1949-60. Under Torre, the Yankees have gone 1,079-699. He trails only Joe McCarthy (1,460) and Stengel (1,149) for victories among Yankees managers.

Luvofthegame
10-10-2006, 05:48 PM
...the next time you read the phrase, "The New York Daily News is reporting...", use that section of your newspaper to potty train your puppy.

ESPN.com (http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=2619564)


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