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Baseball Guru
10-09-2006, 02:29 PM
By RONALD BLUM, AP Baseball Writer
October 8, 2006

NEW YORK (AP) -- When he walked out of the clubhouse at Dodger Stadium, Jeff Wilpon checked his Treo and saw dozens of congratulations.

"I got 48 e-mails in the half-hour between when the game ended and the time I left the locker room from the celebration," he said Sunday.

The other New York baseball team is playing into late October this year. While there's turmoil in the Bronx following the Yankees' first-round elimination, the Mets will be playing St. Louis in the NL championship series starting Wednesday.

"We have our own focus and we're worried about ourselves. We're not worried about them," said Wilpon, the team's chief operating officer and the son of owner Fred Wilpon.

Then he added: "If the Mets' fans feel it's good, then I guess it's good."

For the first time since 1988, the Mets will be ending their season after the Yankees, who have dominated the New York baseball scene for the past decade. In 2000, when they met in a Subway Series, the Yankees won in five games.

After fighting for attention for so long, the Mets were a little giddy following their first-round sweep of Los Angeles, which they finished off with a 9-5 win Saturday night.

"I'm concerned about my team. We're the New York Mets, and we're New Yorkers, also," Mets manager Willie Randolph said during his team's second clubhouse celebration in three weeks.

Randolph won two World Series titles with the Yankees as a player and four more as a coach. For nearly all his players, October celebrations are a new experience.

"This is why I came to New York," said Steve Trachsel, who joined the team after the 2000 season and is their longest-tenured player. "I expected to be here two or three times by now. It's been a long time coming. I've been waiting for a long time. It's everything I imagined."

General manager Omar Minaya and Randolph inherited a team that went 71-91 in 2004, remade the front office and the roster, building a nucleus by adding Pedro Martinez, Carlos Beltran, Carlos Delgado and Billy Wagner to young players such as David Wright and Jose Reyes.

They did lots of little things right against the Dodgers, getting timely hits and key outs. Statistically, New York and Los Angeles were pretty even. The Mets had only a slightly higher batting average than the Dodgers, .294 to .291, yet outscored them 19-11.

New York already matched 1969's Miracle Mets in one department: by winning a best-of-five series while getting only 13 2-3 innings out of its starting pitchers. The only team to advance with fewer was the 2000 Cardinals (13 1-3 innings), according to the Elias Sports Bureau.

No matter. They put themselves in position for a possible World Series matchup against Detroit or Oakland.

"Hopefully, we can get two more celebrations like this," said Delgado, who hit .429 in the first postseason series of his 14-year big league career.

Wilpon is thinking beyond that. He wants the Mets to emulate the Atlanta Braves, who won 14 consecutive division titles before falling short this year.

"I don't think Omar or any other guys -- John Ricco, Tony Bernazard, Sandy Johnson or myself -- feel like we're done," Wilpon said, reeling off the names of Minaya's top assistants. "The goal is 10 years from now to have a run like the Braves had, so people will be wanting to copy the Mets."

Note

After reinjuring his left Achilles' tendon, LF Cliff Floyd went home to rest Sunday, Mets spokesman Jay Horwitz said. Floyd said after the game that it was "more than stretched" and "I'm going to find out what I really got when I see a doctor." While he probably is doubtful for the NLCS, he didn't rule himself out. "I'm going to try it. I'm going to give it my best effort," he said.

Luvofthegame
10-09-2006, 06:06 PM
Why do you guys dislike the Yanks so badly? Just curious....I got tired of them winning the series when they won four but I still think the Yankee's franchise is the most storied in baseball. So much history there, and that team probably has alot to do with why baseball has become such a hot commodity these days. From my perspective, the history and the present of the game is vastly effected by the Yankee orginization for better or for worse.....IMHO overall...for the better :)

Baseball Guru
10-09-2006, 06:39 PM
Why do you guys dislike the Yanks so badly? Just curious....

Valid question indeed!

My best answer would be because in a city where there are 2 teams pretty close to each other, 1 team DOMINATES the headlines and as a fan of the team that gets the least amount of press that irks me.... Even after the Mets advanced to the NLCS, a good amount of the headlines were about Jeter and Arod choking and Torre being fired rather than the Mets still being in the playoffs... Thats just so annoying!

Plus, the vast amount of Yankee fans (most fans at this site excluded) are just arrogant!

Hell anyone can be a Yankees fan and a ton of people pick them as their team because they are winners and the best franchise in baseball hisotry!
But to be a Mets fan, win or lose, is something special!!:thumbsup:

Sheafaithful
10-09-2006, 06:47 PM
I am exerting all my energy into the Mets winning.

Certain Yankee fans are obnoxious, cocky and arrogant. But this is why I love this site, we have none of that here. :)

I have one in particular at work who gave me his condolences about the Mets being swept by the Dodgers in three.I believe his exact words were "Its over" before the NLDS even started.

Others told me that if were lucky enough to get to WS the Yanks would sweep us in four.

Cynthia has a few 'obnoxious Yankee fans at Shea during the NLDS' stories.

Some Yankee fans never take the Mets seriously. Yankees were always in the spotlight, the Mets won, the Yanks lost and they got the backpage, the Mets were just this other team in this crappy division. We're a good team with a lot of heart spunk, mojo whatever you want to call it. They play small ball, even the superstars will sacrifice if necessary,we win games because of little dribbly clutch hits, even Valentin was awesome. These guys pick each up, when someone was having an off day, another player made up for it. The spotlight was shared equally on eny given day by all players.

I believe that buying talent is the Yanks downfall, they have all these superstars, but it seems they lack real chemistry. That is just my opinion. I actually respected the Yanks when they had guys like Tino Martinez and Scott Broscius.

Sheafaithful
10-09-2006, 06:50 PM
Valid question indeed!

Hell anyone can be a Yankees fan and a ton of people pick them as their team because they are winners and the best franchise in baseball hisotry!
But to be a Mets fan, win or lose, is something special!!:thumbsup:

Well said, James! :luvkiss:

You beat me to the punch......but at least we made same overall point

Baseball Guru
10-09-2006, 06:53 PM
Well said, James! :luvkiss:

You beat me to the punch......but at least we made same overall point

2 GREAT minds thinking alike!:thumbsup:

Royce
10-09-2006, 06:59 PM
Every team has its set of obnoxious fans. It's not JUST the Yankees, granted half of the Yankees fans I know barely know crap about the team, and can only just say "26 WS championships." Yes, the Yankees do have a large amount of asshole fans. Then again, so does every other team.

Baseball Guru
10-09-2006, 07:01 PM
Yankees just have more because there are more fans;)

Luvofthegame
10-09-2006, 08:44 PM
That definately helps me to understand....I guess I am not affected by the media as much here one way or another. For me, I still like the Yanks because of players like Mantle, Ruth, Gehrig, DiMaggio....those are players you grow up hearing about....heck they made movies about them. It is obnoxious for any real baseball fan to think that there is no shot for your team to get a player out of free agency if the Yankee's are after him too. That's the only real beef I have with them.....and I guess I wouldn't be complaining much if it was my team that had a money tree in the backyard :)

I think the Yanks owner thinks he can buy a championship team.....he just keeps throwing money around and every year (for three) this team get's bumped from the playoffs. My message to goerge would be that it takes chemistry to be a great team, a little mixture of superstar's and helper bee's (whatever you like to call them) might be a better approach??!! :confused:

Rockin Robin
10-09-2006, 09:24 PM
Historically, yes the Yankees are one of the greatest teams ever. Back in the days of Mantle, DiMaggio, Gehrig, etc.

It's just the Yankees in my lifetime that are despicable. Steinbrenner's Yankees.

As previously stated, the arrogance and ignorance of the fans are simply unbearable. And most of them are bandwagoners. Never gave a hoot for the team prior to 1996. Know nothing about the game or the team except for "26 wins." Even the players are cocky. There's a big difference between confidence and cockiness.

Mets win, Yankees eliminated, yet all the headlines and back pages talk about the Yankees choking. Give me an effin' break!

And prior to this year, my response to Yankee fans was "Anybody can root for a team that's winning. It takes a real fan to root for a team that's not." I am a real fan, and I'm finally being rewarded.

And that's why *I* hate the Evil Empire!

Royce
10-10-2006, 04:30 PM
I personally root for the Yankees because of my father, yet now I find myself a more avid fan than he is now. He roots for the Yankees because they were in NY before the Mets, same reasons why he roots for the Rangers and Giants. And as you said, most of the Yankees fans are bandwagon jumpers, who just root for them because of their success.

metmagic
10-10-2006, 04:54 PM
Why do you guys dislike the Yanks so badly?




haha. this question made me laugh. :D (Luv, you have NO IDEA how loaded this question is. especially in nyc lol)

I'm not gonna answer this one today b/c I only have 2 hours left at work (a thorough response from me would take many many hours) (btw Kat, I am very impressed with your very calm, rational response! you don't even sound angry. very impressive :thumbsup: ) (speaking of anger, hey Luv I DARE YOU to ask JULIE that question!!! LOL)

but yeah for now, I'll just DITTO what everyone else said...... when i have more time and energy to explain, I'll break it down for ya........ suffice it to say that We Met Fans here in NYC get harassed, abused, spit on daily for choosing to root for our team. it's not fun. sharing a city with Yankee fans is a kind of torture I would not wish on my worst enemies. there's alot more to say, but for now that will do.......

as robin said, I hate the Evil Empire too........

Nanner
10-10-2006, 05:04 PM
I'm making a vow to myself. From this moment on, after posting on this thread, I am not going to speak or even think about the Yankees. They're gone. They're no longer a factor in my life. I see them on every front and back page of every stinkin' newspaper in NYC, and they didn't even make it past the first round of the playoffs.

I'm sick of thinking about them and seeing their freakin' name, and even talking about them.

My Mets have made it to the LCS. They're gonna have fun, and they're gonna rock Shea Stadium - that's all I need to know.