PDA

View Full Version : Confessions of a Guru


Baseball Guru
10-21-2006, 11:12 PM
I felt like throwing up the other night and was surprised that I didn't. I'll admit, I cried. Cried like a little baby!
We didn't get the big hit, but does that make us a bad team or a team we shouldn't be proud of? I certainly don't think so. Sometimes the better team in this series doesn't win. One thing I've learned from all this is how damn hard it is to win championships, not matter how many games are won in the regular season. It's devastating. I don't know where to go from here. I'm not sure I will be watching any of the world series. Right now my heart is too broken to do that.:(

I love this team more than any other team I've rooted for. And I am certain you ALL feel the same. There isn't that same love for a lot of fans to their team. So in that regard, we should consider ourselves fortunate that we have a lovable group of guys. I'm sure fans of other NY teams can't feel that same way.

This was a series that we should have won. Let's be honest. Life isn't fair though. The game was ours and we let it slip away. I will forever hate the Cardinals and the color red!

I just want to thank the Mets for making my summer a memorable one. I've watched so many games, more than I ever have, and each one had successfully distracted me from all the despair and confusion I felt about life. In a couple of weeks or months, I'll look back at this season and smile. And even at a time in suffering, I'm still so very proud.

Last but not least, thanks for all of you caring about the team enough that you'd type down your feelings on our forum. I always looked forward to reading what you guys have to say because you're so dedicated and knowledge filled, just like most of us. A lot of these comments relieved my panic just because I knew there were people out there which feel exactly like I do about a certain issue. This will sting but I really hope that you guys contine to visit the site because we are going to talk all off season about trades, free agents, rumors, etc.

On another personal note I'd like to thank Kathloeen for IM'ing me during the NLDS and keeping aloat our emotions... Not sure if I could have gotten thru it without her...

I also want to thank Nan, Cyn and Kat for doing unusual game rituals that even included me is some bizarre way:) It was all in fun but it really worked as we won every game with did this:) The 3 of you are great friends that can come down here anytime to watch some ST games:)

I also wanted to personally thank Willie for sending a special PM. That was real nice of you my friend...

Right now, I'm still incredibly upset over the situation and I'm not sure how much of the WS I will actually watch as it should be out Mets playing tonight... I'm devestated! I honestly thought that after Chavez made, what was quite possibly the GREATEST postseason catch in history that we were going to win that game.. I also thought that when LoDuca walked in the 9th to load the bases with Beltran coming up that were were going to come back and win... But, it ws not as the baseball God scripted the Mets future this season...

Right now I'm just tired and burned out..

I need some time so if you dont see me around you know why....

2 things are for sure, at least in my life:
1. I LOVE MY METS!
2. You'd think heartbreak get's easier....after 36 years only thing I know, 100% is, it doesn't.

Thank you for allowing me to vent and I'll see ya around:)

rockin500
10-21-2006, 11:57 PM
lemme tell ya, heartbreak certainly aint gettin any easier. ;)

redsfan
10-22-2006, 12:30 AM
I felt the same way about my Reds several times especially this season. I was devastated they didn't make the playoffs. I was so looking forward to taking my son and daughter to a playoff game to let them see how special a time it is rooting for your team at a time like that. It isn't the same feeling as making it as far as the mets and falling short, but I understand your pain.

Sunni Girl
10-22-2006, 12:33 AM
I also want to thank Nan, Cyn and Kat for doing unusual game rituals that even included me is some bizarre way:)

he would also like to thank his beautiful girlfriend who "talked him off the bridge" with her sweet voice and kind words. :tongue: :luvkiss:

:evillol

Baseball Guru
10-22-2006, 08:31 AM
he would also like to thank his beautiful girlfriend who "talked him off the bridge" with her sweet voice and kind words. :tongue: :luvkiss:

:evillol

lol:laff:

That is true... She helped me get thru it definitely quicker than if I didn't have her:)

She's the best:love2:

PopTop
10-22-2006, 09:12 AM
lemme tell ya, heartbreak certainly aint gettin any easier. ;)Nope, it doesn't get any easier as you 'mature,' either, take it from me. Hell, even though we won the NLCS last year, I still get sick to my stomach thinking about Pujols' homer in Game 5. Bastard took away my chance to celebrate at the park going to our first World Series :(

It's easier not having a favorite team, but it sure ain't as fun.

nysport
10-22-2006, 11:53 AM
I find myself having absolutely NO interest in this year's world series. The season ended totally on Thurday night. It's over as far as I'm concerned.

Sheafaithful
10-22-2006, 02:22 PM
James, I think you just captured everything I wanted to say, but didn't know how....

Thanks!

Chisox73
10-22-2006, 03:10 PM
I know how you guys are feeling in Met Nation.

Hell,I'll top what Willie said and say that my White Sox won the World Series last year and failed to make the playoffs this season.:( To me,that was very disappointing.

Heartbreak doesn't get any easier with age.But for you guys,and this team,I look at it as just the beginning for this club.Don't be surprised if they are favored to win the World Series next year.

As for you Met fans here,don't keep your heads down for too long.You guys had a great season wish you all nothing but the best in the future.

Nanner
10-23-2006, 11:11 AM
Good post. :thumbsup:

metmagic
10-23-2006, 01:07 PM
great post J :thumbsup: thank you! :love2:

well, I am back from my cave so I wanted to share my thoughts & feelings as well. it is really wonderful to have a place to share and vent and get support--I feel so lucky to have amazing friends and forum-buddies like all of you. I adore my Mets family here and for those fans of other teams who came and gave us support, BIG FAT HUGS & KISSES TO YOU, you guys rock and I am grateful for your kindness. it means alot, thank you. :luvkiss:


I am only just starting to feel better now, boy did last week SUCK to put it mildly. thursday/friday was pretty awful, ooooooh that was a heartbreaker that game. I tell you, seeing ENDY CHAVEZ's catch LIVE had to be one of the most electrifiying moments I have ever experienced at Shea!!! (it's up there with Friday, June 30th, 2000. Mets are down by 7 runs vs. Braves. bottom 8th. fonzie up at bat and starts the 2 out rally! the miracle mets somehow score 8 runs to win it!! well, they scored a total of 10 runs. it was insane. I will never forget that game. one of my best Shea memories) SO yeah the Endy Chavez Catch is up there and will forever be in my heart. and just like all of you I thought we were gonna pull off the W. :( i mean, after a catch like that, geez how can we not????


top 9: what'shisface gets a 2-run homer. i'm thinkin "it's over." I feel nothing.
bottom 9th: jose valentin gets a basehit. I'm SHOCKED. completely SHOCKED. we had lost momentum after that 2run homer, you could feel it, so i'm thinkin we're NOT gonna be able to pull it off. i look at nan after jose’s hit and we stare at each other like "wow. did that just happen. what does this mean?" but i refuse to get too happy...... THEN Endy gets a basehit. :eek: holy crap. no way. could it be? do we have a chance? i look at nan (well, we're jumping up and down at this point) She has that look like "we could do this!" (she's so optimistic Nan, gotta love her) I STILL wasn't gonna get too happy..... THEN nan's b/f Lo Duca walks and it's bases loaded and SUDDENLY the W is in the palm of our hands!!! (OHHH it still kills me thinking about it!! :crying2: )
.......................fast forward and it's Beltran at the plate and all he hadda do was get a little baby basehit, just a basehit, just a basehit just a basehit just a basehit please God please God please God :Pray:

well, we all know what happened. *sigh*.

(Cont’d)

metmagic
10-23-2006, 01:08 PM
just like that the game is over. the season over. i'm in shock. DENIAL is more like it. the stadium clears. nan & I just sit there staring at the field. I know at that moment neither one of us is sad. I think (I am sure) we both had our Mets-aren't-gonna-break-our-hearts-again emotional DEFENSES way up high. we're back in 2000. world series. versus the YOU.KNOW.WHO team. we-are-not-gonna-go-through-that-again. no way no way. This loss isn't that bad. it's not that bad. at least it's not like losing to YOU.KNOW.WHO back in 2000 so it's not that bad it's not that bad it's not that bad. I look over to my right towards section 9 where my friend Amy is sitting (she became a met fan 2 years ago when she moved here). She is crying. Nan & I are sort of curious that she is crying when we sorta feel nothing. next thing I know, we are making jokes. we're laughing at everything (hello Denial!) as we're walking down the halls towards the Exit signs, we are belly-laughing. some guy, a security guard I think, yells at us from a distance, as we walk out the exit doors (nan didn't hear but i did) "why are you laughing?? the mets lost!!" :angry: we laugh all the way to the 7 train. we are joking and laughing on the train as we grab our seats. we laugh all the way home.


I get home and i'm suddenly overwhelmed by a feeling of sadness. my apt is so quiet and empty. I fall asleep quickly and wake up exhausted. I feel like crying. I have to go to work but I'd rather jump off the Brooklyn Bridge. I am crying all day at work. everyone's pissing me off cuz they all wanna talk to me. arrrggggh go way can't you see I can't stand you today...

it's friday and i can't wait to just go home and live in my pajamas til monday and buy all the junk food i can find at the corner store and eat my sadness away. i am living for the shows i recorded on my DVR. the phone rings and it's my surfing buddy to check up on me (Red Sox fan--but he's one of the NICE ones! very supportive and rooted for the mets i love him for that I hear his message and burst out crying. can't talk to anyone. too sad. i think i cried a good juicy hour-long cry. maybe 2. it's totally hitting me. i'm so sad. that Endy catch.... ohhhhhhhh :crying2:

I don't remember saturday. but yesterday, sunday, I surfed and I think I left it all in the ocean. the air temp felt like 30 degrees with monsoon winds but fortunately the water was NICE though the waves were stormy so i got my ass kicked pretty bad but in a strange way it was quite cathartic. i feel better today.


and i see this post is ridiculously long so i will end it now.......

thanks for letting me share my thoughts and vent...... I don't know what i would do without you guys.......

thanks again for all your amazing support....... it's been painful but you're right, there's alot of good stuff to look forward to.........

PissedPrincess
10-23-2006, 01:46 PM
I guess I'm in the minority here. I've probably had my heart broken the most as from what I am gathering in this forum as an" Evil Red Sox fan". I can tell you, it does get easier. Much easier.

While the initial hurt is still bad, your recovery time is much quicker. And once you do win, it is that much sweeter.:thumbsup:

metmagic
10-23-2006, 02:05 PM
This was a series that we should have won. Let's be honest. Life isn't fair though. The game was ours and we let it slip away. I will forever hate the Cardinals and the color red!

james, i was feeling that way myself (hating the cards and all things red). yeah we totally should have won the series, we are the better team imo.
BUT...... in light of all the NL-bashing, I can't help but want to defend our league. imo, to root for our league (i.e. any team in our league--the cards included) is to root for the Mets (not always the case every year, but THIS YEAR it is much more evident). i'm tired of critics saying "well, the mets wouldn't have had a chance vs. Detroit's/AL pitching BLAH BLAH BLAH..." seriously, i am sick of the disparaging comments and lack of respect. some critics make the NL sound like Little League compared to the almighty holy AL. it is very frustrating to hear it, it's so disrespectful, I believe our Mets deserve alot more respect than that, and so by St Louis beating Detroit the NL would get a little bit more credibility (of course certain critics will trash them no matter what. whatever. but there are others who will be proven wrong/humbled/silence. it is all about respect for me. the Mets and our national league DESERVE it.)

so while i totally understand Mets fans hating St Louis and hoping they lose to the very likable cinderella Tigers, I am going to root for the cards and feel good if/when they win b/c then it will just validate my belief that we had/have the talent to beat ANY AL team.... bionic pitching and all!

Baseball Guru
10-23-2006, 02:14 PM
Yeah, I have that same feeling Cyn... After your text I started thinking about that..

Honestly, it wouldnt kill me if either team won... Detroit is a nice story this season and a good young respectible team but the Cards are a good team as well and the NL bashing sickens me as well...

I really could go either way in this series... Hoepfully it will just we a well played, drama filled, 7 game series:)

metmagic
10-23-2006, 02:37 PM
I like Detroit alot as a matter of fact and was initially wanting them to win. but all the NL bashing drove me to root for my not-so-favorite Pujols-lead cardinal team lol.... i mean come on, all the dissing is ridiculous! who do we have to kill to get some respect???? i'm just fed up......

if Detroit wins, may it be after a 6 hour 18-inning Game 7 :D (all games go extra innings/pitchers duels heheh ....... and may rookie Anthony Reyes get his complete game shutout God bless him.)


edit: scratch that. i'd like the games that Detroit wins to be pitchers duels and they win by 1 run. barely. :D and a couple of the games that the cardinals win, they win by 5-10 runs :tongue:
hmmm what would the sports analysts do with that? :D

Sheafaithful
10-23-2006, 10:04 PM
Cyn....geez girl your posts just brought me back to Shea on that night, I have that knot in my stomach again.

deja vu, very, very vivid--me crying my eyes onto my moms shoulder when Molina hit that HR, my mom telling me to snap out of it, it ain't over, the eerie quiet that followed, the crazy energy in the bottom of the 9th, me going from sad to hyper excited hopeful that OH My God we are going to do it feeling when Valentin got that hit and then Endy got a hit, turning to my mom, my neighbors, someone rubbed my rally cap for good luck, I really thought they were going to win it and then just like that it was over....my emotions were out of whack, I was sad, hopeful, and then angry (I remember how dare they kick my heart around like that). I was angry for about 15 minutes

I was deeply saddened on Friday, when my kids finally went to gym, I turned out the lights, locked the door and cried for 1/2 hr straight. Saturday I was in denial...headed out to Great Adventure, needed a reason to scream my head off.

Sunday I felt very apathetic, like I could easily never watch this team again, these wouldn't have to get so damn emotionally involved. It would be easier to hate them,to curse them into oblivion....

Now I realize that the emotions among players and fans alike is what makes the Mets the Mets.

The Mets made it easy to love them this year.

Sheafaithful
10-23-2006, 10:11 PM
that Endy catch.... ohhhhhhhh :crying2:

Sigh,I know. Like everybody else her eand at the stadium, I really thought that was it, we were going.

. THEN nan's b/f Lo Duca walks and it's bases loaded and SUDDENLY the W is in the palm of our hands!!! (OHHH it still kills me thinking about it!! )
.......................fast forward and it's Beltran at the plate and all he hadda do was get a little baby basehit, just a basehit, just a basehit just a basehit just a basehit please God please God please God

This is exactly how I felt.....three straight strikes,all that noise and commotion and rally towels, the stadium was electric.


You know what, I saw it with my own eyes and still don't believe it. My heart just doesn't want to comprehend what my brain is telling it to.

Not sure I can watch the WS either....

Luvofthegame
10-23-2006, 11:48 PM
James....I felt the same way in 2004 against the Red Sox, so I know how you feel, heck anyone who loves their team knows how you feel. It'll take a while to get over, but just like anything else, you will get over it. As sure as shinola the Met's will be back, and sure as shinola the Cardinals or the Astros will be in the playoffs again.......see the beauty there....it's a never ending circle...and thank God for it! Baseball kick's butt guys! If you guys didn't think so...none of you would care about your team.

C'mon Met's fans....root for the Cardinal's....their the NL representative this year...and the NL is in desperate need of respect! :cheer:

BTW Met's fans....I am sincerely sorry, I know how you guys feel...I wish we could just have played Pujols in left field and put Carpenter and Suppan in your rotation, and then added a couple of our bullpen guys......then I think we might be favored in the WS. :woohoo

Luvofthegame
10-25-2006, 11:42 PM
boy that got an overwhelming response! Hello Hello....Chirp...Chirp.....

yagsy
10-26-2006, 04:41 PM
C'mon Met's fans....root for the Cardinal's....their the NL representative this year...and the NL is in desperate need of respect!

BTW Met's fans....I am sincerely sorry, I know how you guys feel...I wish we could just have played Pujols in left field and put Carpenter and Suppan in your rotation, and then added a couple of our bullpen guys......then I think we might be favored in the WS.

I've been super busy with work the last few weeks but most especially within the last week. I got home from work just in time to catch the games and then had to work right after (I do love the Pacific time zone) and then I worked all weekend and have been putting in 60hr plus weeks. I don't know if I'll get home in time tonite as my company is trying to meet an important deadline.

But...it doesn't mean that I haven't gone through the sadness of losing not once against the Cardinals this season but TWICE! :duh: Both times, both teams were favored against the Cardinals and yet... :banghead

I guess I didn't feel the intensity of the sadness when the Mets lost because I just went through it with the Padres and like Cyn and Nanner, I was in denial. Working so much too took my mind off of the season. I still haven't really had time to let it sink in.

Thank you Cyn for talking about the respect for the National League. It's a much more difficult game to play, I think, in terms of strategy and I really enjoy that challenge that teams have to win. But now, you're absolutely right, as much as it pains me to root for the Cardinals (and I was rooting for the Tigers), I really am rooting for the National League. :banana: :cheer: :jump: :Party:

GO CARDINALS!!!

:D :D :D

Luvofthegame
10-27-2006, 01:48 AM
Good deal!!! That's the Spirit Yags!!



:Party: :Party: :cheer: :cheer: :cheer: :gt: :gt:



GO CARDINALS!!!!!