View Full Version : Schottenheimer staying on, gets contract extension
a_ndrew3000
01-17-2007, 06:18 PM
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2734129
SAN DIEGO, Calif. -- Chargers coach Marty Schottenheimer, who absorbed his sixth consecutive playoff loss Sunday following an NFL-best 14-2 regular season, will return to the team for the 2007 season.
"I have decided that Marty Schottenheimer is the best person to lead the Chargers in the 2007 season," Dean Spanos, Chargers president and CEO, said in a statement Wednesday.
The Patriots rallied from an eight-point deficit in the fourth quarter to beat the Chargers 24-21 on Sunday, San Diego's only loss at home this season.
Schottenheimer had a year left on his contract, at more than $3 million, but received a one-year contract extension Wednesday through 2008, as did his entire staff.
"We are all bitterly disappointed how this season ended, but we can't allow our disappointment to cloud the achievements of our franchise over the past few years," Spanos said. "Now it is time to put this issue behind us and move forward together."
a_ndrew3000
01-17-2007, 06:19 PM
:thumbdown :thumbdown :banghead :censor: :barf: :barf: :sigh:
Dward00
01-17-2007, 06:35 PM
Well he's actually right. If it wasn't for schottenheimer, the San Diego Chargers would not have seen the success that they've had the past 4 years. Also they would not have lost this postseason game. It would just be an unfair, and unclassy thing to do to have him fired. Not to mention possibly boneheaded.
It's not like Cowher didn't have the same success in Pittsburgh, and he never got fired. Cowher spent a decade of going either 1 and out, or 1-1. One thing I gotta say about stiller fans is that they were always loyal to that man. Eventually he won a superbowl[after going to the afc championship like 6 times].
a_ndrew3000
01-17-2007, 10:33 PM
Marty can build, he just can't finish. He is a proven playoff loser. This team needs a coach who can take a good team and make them better, not the other way around. He loses close games.
If you like him so much dward, maybe he could come to the bengals.
rockin500
01-17-2007, 10:46 PM
eh, coaches are overrated. I guess Dungy is a bum too and shouldnt have a job? bill cowher failed how many times before finally succeeding?
dumb plays cost the chargers, not bad coaching.
Thedatch
01-17-2007, 11:00 PM
eh, coaches are overrated. I guess Dungy is a bum too and shouldnt have a job? bill cowher failed how many times before finally succeeding?
dumb plays cost the chargers, not bad coaching.
I completely agree with that...at some point there isn't anything a coach can do, it's the players responsibility to finish the job.
a_ndrew3000
01-17-2007, 11:40 PM
eh, coaches are overrated. I guess Dungy is a bum too and shouldnt have a job? bill cowher failed how many times before finally succeeding?
dumb plays cost the chargers, not bad coaching.
Wow, way to quote Sean Salisbury.
Schottenheimer does not call the plays, but he is in charge of clock management and game changing decisions.
He inexplicably went for it on 4th and 11 instead of kicking a field goal. He wasted a challenge/timeout on a play that would never be overturned. He wasted a timeout after a Patriots injury.
You can say that it is up to the players to finish the game, but Shottenheimer's post season record speaks for itself. Would you replace your head coach with him?
Thedatch
01-18-2007, 06:16 AM
Wow, way to quote Sean Salisbury.
Schottenheimer does not call the plays, but he is in charge of clock management and game changing decisions.
He inexplicably went for it on 4th and 11 instead of kicking a field goal. He wasted a challenge/timeout on a play that would never be overturned. He wasted a timeout after a Patriots injury.
You can say that it is up to the players to finish the game, but Shottenheimer's post season record speaks for itself. Would you replace your head coach with him?
all those excuses aside, if that punt returner doesn't mess up that ball, or if the guy who intercepted it didn't fumble, the chargers win the game. blame shottenheimer all you want, and sure, he made some bad calls, but it's a two way street here. you don't just say: hey, thanks for making our team 14-2, now get the hell outa here, it doesn't work like that.
It's still was a group effort that they lost that game.
Fire all of them, too?
While Marty failed with bad decisions, his team didn't pick him up.
rockin500
01-18-2007, 09:16 AM
Wow, way to quote Sean Salisbury.
Schottenheimer does not call the plays, but he is in charge of clock management and game changing decisions.
He inexplicably went for it on 4th and 11 instead of kicking a field goal. He wasted a challenge/timeout on a play that would never be overturned. He wasted a timeout after a Patriots injury.
You can say that it is up to the players to finish the game, but Shottenheimer's post season record speaks for itself. Would you replace your head coach with him?
yes. and his playoff success (or lack thereof) has more to do with the fact that in most of his playoff years his teams werent the best on the field. (chiefs years and the browns)
lovie has more than made his fair share of mistakes. In the end it comes down to players executing.
people calling for the firing of schottenheimer are definitely offbase
redsfan
01-18-2007, 10:47 AM
If it makes you feel any better, he turned down the extension. I think he is going to honor his contract then go elsewhere. There are many reports that he and the GM do not speak. You may get your wish after next season.
PissedPrincess
01-18-2007, 10:57 AM
The reason the Chargers made a boatload of stupid mistakes is because of coaching. They are an undisciplined team. That comes from coaching.
If I were a San Diego fan I'd be incensed.
PissedPrincess
01-18-2007, 11:02 AM
Btw, Sean Salisbury is a MORON.
a_ndrew3000
01-18-2007, 02:59 PM
The reason the Chargers made a boatload of stupid mistakes is because of coaching. They are an undisciplined team. That comes from coaching.
If I were a San Diego fan I'd be incensed.
:thumbsup:
Nobody answered my question if they would trade their head coach for Marty.
It's still was a group effort that they lost that game.
Fire all of them, too?
To be honest, I wouldn't mind seeing Eric Parker leave. He was off his meds in that game.
Maybe next year, the players will rally around Marty and actually win a playoff game when they have the more talented team.
Thedatch
01-18-2007, 03:12 PM
The reason the Chargers made a boatload of stupid mistakes is because of coaching. They are an undisciplined team. That comes from coaching.
If I were a San Diego fan I'd be incensed.
what stupid mistakes though? the punt fumble? the fumble after the interception? those things cost the chargers the game more, I think, than say, them going for it on 4th and 11, or the personal foul penalty, although I will admit, that was pretty bad (yet has happened to the patriots a bunch of times as well.)
I just think people are being incredibly ungrateful to a coach who has made this team what it is. It's the ultimate what have you done for me lately mentality, and I don't like it. He won you 14 games this year damn it! you don't appreciate that?
PissedPrincess
01-18-2007, 03:23 PM
what stupid mistakes though? the punt fumble? the fumble after the interception? those things cost the chargers the game more, I think, than say, them going for it on 4th and 11, or the personal foul penalty, although I will admit, that was pretty bad (yet has happened to the patriots a bunch of times as well.)
I just think people are being incredibly ungrateful to a coach who has made this team what it is. It's the ultimate what have you done for me lately mentality, and I don't like it. He won you 14 games this year damn it! you don't appreciate that?
Let's start with the fumble after the interception. It's unacceptable that the player is trying to score. It is even more unacceptable that A DAY AFTER the player says he would do it again. Belichick would have released the guy.
THAT IS COACHING. The Chargers were not mentally prepared to play this game. THAT IS COACHING.
I could go on, but I'm on to Pats/Colts already.
I just felt if I were an SD fan I'd be pissed. Marty sucks.
Thedatch
01-18-2007, 03:26 PM
Let's start with the fumble after the interception. It's unacceptable that the player is trying to score. It is even more unacceptable that A DAY AFTER the player says he would do it again. Belichick would have released the guy.
THAT IS COACHING. The Chargers were not mentally prepared to play this game. THAT IS COACHING.
I could go on, but I'm on to Pats/Colts already.
I just felt if I were an SD fan I'd be pissed. Marty sucks.
wait what? unacceptable he's trying to score? if he scores a TD then, he puts the game away! anyone would have done the same thing, I can practically guarantee that, even if they say now, oh, I would have swatted the ball down, or oh, I would have just sat down with the ball.
I'm not denying there were mistakes made in the game, I never said there were not. I'm also not saying the coach isn't totally blameless in this. But asking for his head after he leads you to a 14-2 season is ungrateful.
PissedPrincess
01-18-2007, 03:32 PM
wait what? unacceptable he's trying to score? if he scores a TD then, he puts the game away! anyone would have done the same thing, I can practically guarantee that, even if they say now, oh, I would have swatted the ball down, or oh, I would have just sat down with the ball.
Yes Datch. Everyone knows with a lead, you swat the ball down on 4th down. They coach that in Pop Warner. Never intercept on 4th down. I can absolutely guarantee you the average Pop Warner never mind NFL player would not have done what Mcree did.
It's situational football. 4th down you don't intercept, if you do, you immediately go down.
rockin500
01-18-2007, 04:49 PM
Yes Datch. Everyone knows with a lead, you swat the ball down on 4th down. They coach that in Pop Warner. Never intercept on 4th down. I can absolutely guarantee you the average Pop Warner never mind NFL player would not have done what Mcree did.
It's situational football. 4th down you don't intercept, if you do, you immediately go down.
you can coach a guy all you want to do that, but players will be players. its like telling a punt returner, dont field it inside of the 10. no matter how many times you say it, some guys just dont listen. unless they are yanked because of it, but usually by that time its too late anyways.
seen that too much here in chicago. Hester does it a lot. The reason why he doesnt get benched more for his lapses is that he is a gamebreaker and ccan offset his goofiness (bobby wade was even worse for that and he did get stripped of his return duties in previous years.)
and i answered andrews question: yes I would take him as my coach
PissedPrincess
01-18-2007, 04:57 PM
Ray, you just proved my point. Your guys get benched for making mistakes. Doug Gabriel drops a pass and gets cut.
Schotts hugs his guy. :D
a_ndrew3000
01-18-2007, 05:03 PM
Well I guess the law of averages tells us that a Schottenheimer will eventually win an important game.
I've heard talk of his son taking over after next season. :ugh:
PissedPrincess
01-18-2007, 05:06 PM
Well I guess the law of averages tells us that a Schottenheimer will eventually win an important game.
That's what I kept telling myself as a Red Sox fan. The Law of Averages. Only took 86 goddamn years.:angry:
I hope you don't have to wait that long dude. :smokin:
a_ndrew3000
01-18-2007, 05:36 PM
I hope you don't have to wait that long dude. :smokin:
You and me both.
We won the AFL in 1963, add 86 years.
So 2049? I might live that long!
rockin500
01-18-2007, 07:01 PM
Ray, you just proved my point. Your guys get benched for making mistakes. Doug Gabriel drops a pass and gets cut.
Schotts hugs his guy. :D
remember, that was the same coach who decided it was a good idea to single cover steve smith in the playoffs last year and never decided to double cover him or change strategies.
and who thinks Tank Johnson should get hugs not asskicking. :D
Dward00
01-19-2007, 03:22 AM
Ray, you just proved my point. Your guys get benched for making mistakes. Doug Gabriel drops a pass and gets cut.
Schotts hugs his guy. :D
Haha I like that statement pp. You know another coach like that? Jim Mora. He babies his players too.
But you know what? The thing about New England is that they don't baby their players. They treat them like employees in a normal job. If you %#%^ up, and make the company lose 30-60k then most likely you'll get fired.
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