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Old 11-06-2003, 08:22 AM   #1
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Exclamation Redbirds Hog NL Gold Glove Squad

Two straight years now that St. Louis has 4 on the NL Gold Glove Team, not shabby, not shabby at all! ... But this is also where I'm going to have a conflict of interest with being the Cards mod, and that is Matheny is not necessarily in a league of his own as far as calling games or blocking bad pitches ... I'm not trying to take anything away from Matheny's fine year, making it through a season without an error is an incredible accomplishment ... But I wonder if you put him and Ausmus in "neutral uniforms" and sat behind them while they worked a game, I wonder if you could really tell me which one was which?




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Four Cards take gold on defense

ST. LOUIS -- If there is one constant to Cardinals baseball in recent years, it's defense. For the second consecutive year, four Redbirds brought home Rawlings Gold Gloves when the awards were announced on Wednesday.

Jim Edmonds, Mike Matheny, Scott Rolen and Edgar Renteria all copped the hardware recognizing them as the NL's elite defensive players at their positions. For Edmonds, it was his fourth consecutive Gold Glove and sixth overall. Rolen won for the fourth year in a row and the fifth time in his career. Renteria won his second, and second straight, and Matheny won for the second time. It was the fourth consecutive year at least two Cardinals won Gold Gloves.

Fernando Viña might have made it five Redbirds with Gold Gloves, but a hamstring injury limited him to 61 games this year. Viña won at second base each of the past two seasons.

The most striking winner was Matheny, who beat out Florida's Ivan Rodriguez. In his first year in the National League, Rodriguez made a huge splash offensively and defensively. Yet the 10-time winner took a back seat to the steady Matheny.

"It's a great honor, but it's definitely one that I wasn't expecting," Matheny told KSDK Channel 5 television. "I thought I could have had a better year defensively."

The two make for an interesting contrast. Rodriguez is best known for his cannon of a throwing arm, while Matheny's success at throwing out baserunners has declined in recent years. But there is no better technical catcher than Matheny, who did not commit his first passed ball of 2003 until July 28. Matheny is widely praised for his ability to call a game, and no one blocks balls or blocks the plate better.

As for Rolen and Edmonds, they have gone beyond incumbents all the way to institutions as Gold Glove winners. Some of Rolen's defensive numbers were not up to their usual standards in 2003 -- his double plays, zone rating and range factor were all down -- but he committed a mere 13 errors in 153 games.

Edmonds' highlight-reel catches are a SportsCenter staple, and he may have outdone even himself with back-to-back robberies in Cincinnati in late August. In consecutive games of a weekend series, he stole homers from Kelly Stinnett and Russell Branyan at Great American Ballpark. He ranked fourth among NL center fielders in putouts and second in assists, despite missing 25 games.

And then there's Renteria, perhaps the quietest great player in the National League. For the second consecutive year, he won both the Gold Glove and the Silver Slugger at shortstop, marking him as the league's premier player at his position on offense and defense. Renteria does little spectacularly like his teammates, but his steadiness and dependability in the field have earned him raves.


2003 Gold Glove winners

AMERICAN LEAGUE

C Bengie Molina, ANA
1B John Olerud, SEA
2B Bret Boone, SEA
3B Eric Chavez, OAK
SS Alex Rodriguez, TEX
OF Ichiro Suzuki, SEA
OF Mike Cameron, SEA
OF Torii Hunter, MIN
P Mike Mussina, NYY

NATIONAL LEAGUE
C Mike Matheny, STL
1B Derrek Lee, FLA
2B Luis Castillo, FLA
3B Scott Rolen, STL
SS Edgar Renteria, STL
OF Andruw Jones, ATL
OF Jose Cruz Jr., SF
OF Jim Edmonds, STL
P Mike Hampton, ATL
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Ok, maybe I missed it as I read it several times but there is talk about Pudge not winning the award which I definitely agree is shocking but what about the fact that Hampton won the GG over Maddux who had won the award 13 years in a row in the NL

No talk of that at all??:umm
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Old 11-06-2003, 11:16 AM   #3
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Guru, you and I both know how tenuous and inconsistent the voting can be for these awards year in and year out ... It's so easy to look at the offensive numbers that someone like a Pujols or A-Rod or Bonds puts up and declare them the MVP or All-Star at their positions ... But ranking defensive qualities ain't that easy and, I feel, it's just going to always be open to valid arguments for several players at every position.

Take Matheny, for example ... It's very tough to argue against what he accomplished this year, even if you take into account the often subjective nature af charging errors ... But then, look at what Bordick did at SS last year in the AL and he wasn't a winner.

Pudge has always been an absolute joy for me to watch defensively ... I used to really like to watch Jim Sundberg catch as well, and to me Sunny and Pudge are the top defensive catchers since Bench left the game ... Though he didn't win a GG this year, I just hope people come away from this season with less reasons to knock Pudge for some of the pitching woes that have beset the Rangers for about the last 473 years ... Maybe some of that young Marlins pitching finally matured this year, but I have to think that Rodriguez was part of the reason those pitchers became more confident.

As for Hampton beating out Maddux, I can only laugh at that one ... There were a a couple of seasons that my buddy in Houston and I thought Hampy should have won the NL Gold Glove before now ... Athletically, I will put him up against any pitcher in the game today when it comes to fielding and hitting and running and throwing ... I'll take 9 Hampton's and bet the house on them beating 9 Maddux' in a 7-game series ... So I'm laughing today because Hampy finally wins one, and it comes when he's on the same team as Maddux.

Ironic, doncha' think?!
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So I'm laughing today because Hampy finally wins one, and it comes when he's on the same team as Maddux.

Ironic, doncha' think?!

It most certainly is
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